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[ShepnTali]

The ending/s ruckus carries on, huh?


In some awesome news, I think Garrus is voicing Deadshot in the upcoming Batman Arkham Origins game. Garrus in a Batman game . Garrus as Deadshot in a Batman game.. Oh. My. God.

[AresKeith]

KaiserShep wrote...

Extinction never felt so heroic.

Live Free or Die Hard  lol

[KaiserShep]

Yippy kay yay motherreaper.

[MegaSovereign]

AresKeith wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

Extinction never felt so heroic.

Live Free or Die Hard  lol

Refuse is Live Free and Die Hard.

[Iakus]

MegaSovereign wrote...

iakus wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

You got a version of what you wanted, but didn't really enjoy it.

It's like asking someone to bring home dinner because you don't want to cook, and they get McDonalds. It works, and it's what you asked for, but it's McDonalds.

McDonalds would be a feast compared to what we got.  The "dinner" was burnt, stomped on, and tossed in a puddle.  Then people are curious why players aren't happy with it.

Get what was wanted?  Maybe.  In a Monkey's Paw kind of way.  Which is not so good for the ol' public image.  Just makes them look petty.

Did Bioware beat you up and take your lunch money too? I thought I was the only one.

Well, if we're continuing the Mass Effect 3 =dinner analogy...

[CronoDragoon]

iakus wrote...
Well, if we're continuing the Mass Effect 3 =dinner analogy...

Which is always a silly analogy.

[dreamgazer]

CronoDragoon wrote...

iakus wrote...
Well, if we're continuing the Mass Effect 3 =dinner analogy...

Which is always a silly analogy.

I ordered a side salad.  Where's my side salad?

[AresKeith]

MegaSovereign wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

Extinction never felt so heroic.

Live Free or Die Hard  lol

Refuse is Live Free and Die Hard.

Well It's a Good Day to Die Hard

[MegaSovereign]

iakus wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

iakus wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

You got a version of what you wanted, but didn't really enjoy it.

It's like asking someone to bring home dinner because you don't want to cook, and they get McDonalds. It works, and it's what you asked for, but it's McDonalds.

McDonalds would be a feast compared to what we got.  The "dinner" was burnt, stomped on, and tossed in a puddle.  Then people are curious why players aren't happy with it.

Get what was wanted?  Maybe.  In a Monkey's Paw kind of way.  Which is not so good for the ol' public image.  Just makes them look petty.

Did Bioware beat you up and take your lunch money too? I thought I was the only one.

Well, if we're continuing the Mass Effect 3 =dinner analogy...

A restuarant basically defecating on your dinner is insane.

You say that Bioware is being petty but you're the one making petty analogies.

[Iakus]

dreamgazer wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

iakus wrote...
Well, if we're continuing the Mass Effect 3 =dinner analogy...

Which is always a silly analogy.

I ordered a side salad.  Where's my side salad?

Side salads aren't artistic enough.  Now pick a red, green, or blue entre or we'll set fire to your table.

[Iakus]

MegaSovereign wrote...

A restuarant basically defecating on your dinner is insane.

You say that Bioware is being petty but you're the one making petty analogies.

Good thing I never said that then.  I'd hate to sound insane...

The whole analogy started when the endings were compared to someone buying me a dinner I didn't like.  My response is essentially that not only was it a dinner I didn't like, but it gotten by someone who knew very well what I actually wanted and made a conscious choice to not only deliver something different, but to troll me at the same time.

No, not me, Iakus, specifically, but everyone who wanted a different outcome, to "find another way" 

Modifié par iakus, 20 mai 2013 - 05:49 .

[CronoDragoon]

iakus wrote...

The whole analogy started when the endings were compared to someone buying me a dinner I didn't like.  My response is essentially that not only was it a dinner I didn't like, but it gotten by someone who knew very well what I actually wanted and made a conscious choice to not only deliver something different, but to troll me at the same time.

No, not me, Iakus, specifically, but everyone who wanted a different outcome, to "find another way" 

So we're talking about Refuse specifically here?

Anybody who thinks BioWare included Refuse to troll fans is really out of touch with the reality of the situation.

Fact: There were many threads upon release asking for a Refuse option. A smaller subset of this population, but still significant, even went so far as to say they'd rather die with their morality intact than "submit".

Fact: Many people on these boards wanted a standalone "epic fail" option where the Reapers won.

BioWare's opinion: We can combine these ideas to make a new Braveheart style ending where idealism is preserved but the Reapers win (in this cycle).

There's nothing trollish about Refuse. At worst BioWare overestimated the amount of people who were actually okay with preserving their morality and losing.

Modifié par CronoDragoon, 20 mai 2013 - 05:56 .

[spirosz]

iakus wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

A restuarant basically defecating on your dinner is insane.

You say that Bioware is being petty but you're the one making petty analogies.

Good thing I never said that then.  I'd hate to sound insane...

The whole analogy started when the endings were compared to someone buying me a dinner I didn't like.  My response is essentially that not only was it a dinner I didn't like, but it gotten by someone who knew very well what I actually wanted and made a conscious choice to not only deliver something different, but to troll me at the same time.

No, not me, Iakus, specifically, but everyone who wanted a different outcome, to "find another way" 

But you don't know Bioware very well.

Modifié par spirosz, 20 mai 2013 - 05:57 .

[Samtheman63]

CronoDragoon wrote...

iakus wrote...

The whole analogy started when the endings were compared to someone buying me a dinner I didn't like.  My response is essentially that not only was it a dinner I didn't like, but it gotten by someone who knew very well what I actually wanted and made a conscious choice to not only deliver something different, but to troll me at the same time.

No, not me, Iakus, specifically, but everyone who wanted a different outcome, to "find another way" 

So we're talking about Refuse specifically here?

Anybody who thinks BioWare included Refuse to troll fans is really out of touch with the reality of the situation.

Fact: There were many threads upon release asking for a Refuse option. A smaller subset of this population, but still significant, even went so far as to say they'd rather die with their morality intact than "submit".

Fact: Many people on these boards wanted a standalone "epic fail" option where the Reapers won.

BioWare's opinion: We can combine these ideas to make a new Braveheart style ending where idealism is preserved but the Reapers win (in this cycle).

There's nothing trollish about Refuse. At worst BioWare overestimated the amount of people who were actually okay with preserving their morality and losing.

well said

i've seen refuse called a "middle finger to the fans" many times, but it was actually bioware giving the fans what some of them had asked for

[dreamgazer]

CronoDragoon wrote...

iakus wrote...

The whole analogy started when the endings were compared to someone buying me a dinner I didn't like.  My response is essentially that not only was it a dinner I didn't like, but it gotten by someone who knew very well what I actually wanted and made a conscious choice to not only deliver something different, but to troll me at the same time.

No, not me, Iakus, specifically, but everyone who wanted a different outcome, to "find another way" 

So we're talking about Refuse specifically here?

Anybody who thinks BioWare included Refuse to troll fans is really out of touch with the reality of the situation.

Fact: There were many threads upon release asking for a Refuse option. A smaller subset of this population, but still significant, even went so far as to say they'd rather die with their morality intact than "submit".

Fact: Many people on these boards wanted a standalone "epic fail" option where the Reapers won.

BioWare's opinion: We can combine these ideas to make a new Braveheart style ending where idealism is preserved but the Reapers win (in this cycle).

There's nothing trollish about Refuse. At worst BioWare overestimated the amount of people who were actually okay with preserving their morality and losing.

[N7 Dynames]

On my 1st play through I choose refuse... I didn't even mean too, I wanted synthesis but only had the destroy or control options. I hated knowing that my shepard choose to sacrifice everyone... At the very least, it's how id have handled the situation in real life. I'm not sure if thats a good or bad thing though.

Modifié par N7 Dynames, 20 mai 2013 - 06:06 .

[Iakus]

CronoDragoon wrote...

So we're talking about Refuse specifically here?

Anybody who thinks BioWare included Refuse to troll fans is really out of touch with the reality of the situation.

Fact: There were many threads upon release asking for a Refuse option. A smaller subset of this population, but still significant, even went so far as to say they'd rather die with their morality intact than "submit".

Fact: Many people on these boards wanted a standalone "epic fail" option where the Reapers won.

BioWare's opinion: We can combine these ideas to make a new Braveheart style ending where idealism is preserved but the Reapers win (in this cycle).

There's nothing trollish about Refuse. At worst BioWare overestimated the amount of people who were actually okay with preserving their morality and losing.

Fact:  A larger subset wanted a Refuse option where the galaxy stood or fell based on EMS

Fact:  Many more people also wanted a "clear win" option where the galaxy stood united against the Reapers and prevailed with, dare I say it, a reunion?

Bioware's opinion (speculated):  Not artistic enough.  Idealism's for saps.  hey look, let's trigger the "you lose" scenerio by shooting the Catalyst.  That'll show 'em!

It is absolutely trolling to know what players wanted, dangle the possibility in front of them, only to jerk it away. 

What Bioware underestimated was the number of people who don't like to get jerked around. 

Modifié par iakus, 20 mai 2013 - 06:09 .

[spirosz]

All these "facts" and "wants" makes me laugh.

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

console peasants LOL

[spirosz]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

console peasants LOL

You again?

[spirosz]

Hey, IntelligentME3Fanboy, make your profile public, so I can spam clapping gifs on your comment section.

[Samtheman63]

N7 Dynames wrote...

On my 1st play through I choose refuse... I didn't even mean too, I wanted synthesis but only had the destroy or control options.

wow, galaxy got a lucky break there

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

spirosz wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

console peasants LOL

You again?

yo mad bro?ITS HORNSWOGGLE