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[Display Name Owner]

Sometimes, just to see what happened. Setting up some variation across my playthroughs.

Sidenote - I actually quite like Wreav.

[KaiserShep]

I was glad to see him get taken by he thresher maw.

[CptData]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

This was one of the few decisions in the game that actually made a difference. DId you kill Wrex on Virmire, and is so, why?

Nah, Wrex is too useful and too important to get killed. After all, even without knowing of his fate in ME2/ME3, he feels as if he has a bigger role than you can see at first.

Technically, only the decisions in the Krogan/Cure-story arc do matter in the entire game AND the entire trilogy.

- if Wrex dies on Virmire, Wreav is a far less cooporative leader. He stands for a more aggressive, "traditional" politics than Wrex, so the Krogans aren't that nice.
Wrex on the other hand stands for a more peaceful agenda and seems to be interested to bring back the old Krogan culture - which feels quite peaceful.
- if you didn't save the data of the cure, Bakura dies.
- if you let Mordin die, she also might die (if I remember correctly)
- if you sabotaged the cure, the Krogans won't be happy (except you got Wreav as their leader)
- if you didn't do the bomb mission, a large portion of the Krogans will die, including Bakura.

Everything sums up in ME3 and feels as if your decisions do matter.

Same can be said about the Morning War (Geth vs Quarians), 'though it doesn't span the entire trilogy.
You only can get the best outcome (end of the war without genocide) if you recruited Legion and didn't allow him to die in the Suicide Mission. Also Tali must not die, she must be loyal. And you need to save that Admiral - so everything you do in this story arc does matter for that final decision.

Of course, in the endgame it doesn't matter that much anymore, since the last minutes of the series are defined by numbers, not particular decisions.

Modifié par CptData, 20 mai 2013 - 04:59 .

[Samtheman63]

Makai81 wrote...

 The only choice in the trilogy worse than killing Wrex is killing Mordin on Tuchanka.

ever heard of synthesis?

[KaiserShep]

Killing Mordin on Tuchanka is pretty painful to look at, made even worse when he crawls to the console, only to die before blowing up. I can never renegade my way to this point. The farthest I could go is to threaten him, but ultimately let him go. It really does have a great dramatic feel that way.

[MattFini]

Playing through ME3 again right now with my one Shepard who killed him way back when...

Game isn't half as interesting with Wreav.

[FlyingSquirrel]

I never had a playthrough where I deliberately killed him or signaled Ashley. With my "tragic Paragon" character, I metagamed and deliberately failed the speech check (going for the non-blue, top-right Paragon option), at which point Ashley shot him and my Shepard read her the riot act for it.

This was one of the Shepards that I found most interesting to play, in that her decisions were still rooted in a consistent Paragon philosophy and yet led to some tougher circumstances in ME3 - she lost Garrus and Samara on the Collector Base partly because their loyalty missions (which she skipped) both ostensibly involved assassinating somebody, Tali wasn't loyal because Shepard felt that exposing Rael's crimes was more important, and Miranda wasn't loyal because Shepard took Jack's side in their confrontation. She ended up curing the genophage with Wreav and choosing the geth over the quarians in ME3 (in addition to Tali not being loyal and the heretics rewritten, she also saved the civilians on Rannoch instead of Koris).

I'm not sure I'd do a playthrough like that again, but I'm glad I got to see some of the content like telling Miranda to "pout if you want, or go call the Illusive Man and complain to him," or the geth prime in Priority: Earth where Tali would normally be. And I might have picked Refuse if the EC had been out when I imported her to ME3.

Modifié par FlyingSquirrel, 20 mai 2013 - 08:22 .

[FlyingSquirrel]

MattFini wrote...
Game isn't half as interesting with Wreav.

Not sure I'd go that far, but there's at least one bit that aptly illustrates the difference between the two, when you're about to head for the maw hammers and Wrex/Wreav attacks the incoming Ravagers.

Wrex's dialogue -
"I am Urdnot Wrex, AND THIS IS MY PLANET!"

Wreav's dialogue -
"RRRRRAAAAAHHHHHH!"

[KaiserShep]

The thing that does it for me is when Wrex tells my Shepard:

"I just want you to know that no matter what happens, you've been a champion of the Krogan people, a friend of clan Urdnot, and a sister to me."

Wreav is as good as Thresher chow.

[Chardonney]

No, never.

[Big Bad]

The first time I played ME1, I didn't know about the armor mission (or didn't pay enough attention), and I didn't invest enough points in either persuasion or intimidation to talk him down, so I was forced to kill him. I've made sure to avoid that fate on all subsequent playthroughs.

[DuskWanderer]

Yep, I killed him. The story in ME3 is infinitely more interesting if Wrex is dead. Now instead of the insane racist salarian versus the good guy krogan, it's choosing which **** you want to work with to save the galaxy because sometimes, choices really are that sucky.

Plus, you can save Mordin this way. Always a plus.

[ryn_wolf]

wrex is my bro i could never kill him off

[Ieldra]

With my main Shepard, I pretended I couldn't convince him and killed him. Then I killed Mordin in ME3 to prevent him from curing the genophage.

I do not believe in curing the genophage. That shaped my decisions around Wrex and Mordin. I thought Maelon's data might be useful if there ever was a choice to mitigate its effects slightly, that's why I kept the data and had to kill Mordin, but a full cure? Never.

I like Wrex, but just as any other character, Shepard included, his life takes a back seat compared to the big picture.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 23 mai 2013 - 07:35 .

[wiccame]

I killed him myself a few times(renegade) because he risked jeopardising the mission and he pulled a gun on me, and had Ashley do it a couple of times in paragon pt. Just cause Ash being ash, was just looking for a reason.
It's actually a lot easier to kill him on virmire than to betray him and have to kill him in ME3, did that once and would never do it again as not only did I have to kill him but I also had to kill Mordin, felt really bad about that.

[Asharad Hett]

I only killed on Virmire him once with my total renegade craptapulous Shepard.

In ME3, I only did it once to see how crappy it would be to do it. 

Modifié par Asharad Hett, 23 mai 2013 - 11:02 .

[jtav]

I think killing him makes for a better story. It's easy to cure the genophage with Wrex in charge. But Wreav? Knowing what he is and that he's too stupid to notice the sabotage? Are you willing to murder Mordin to stop him? Tuchanka becomes much tenser with him dead.

[Wulfram]

My second Shepard didn't have a choice - not enough persuade skill and no family armour. This was somewhat deliberate on my part - I wanted to see how it would play out and this felt the most natural way to do it.

ME3 Tuchanka is I think most interesting if you've got Wreav, particularly if balanced with the cure being saved

[Bardox9]

Paragon play through, he lives. He is a brother in arms.

Renegade play through, he dies. No one pulls a gun on me and lives to tell the tale.

[Texhnolyze101]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

This was one of the few decisions in the game that actually made a difference. DId you kill Wrex on Virmire, and is so, why?

Anybody who kills wrex on virmire deserves an epic boot to the face.

[Mr.House]

Didn't need to kill him, got his armor and he stood down and trusted Shepard without any convincing.

Plus Shepard and Wrex are bffs.

[jtav]

Am I the only person who doesn't like Wrex? I don't dislike him, but I could take or leave both him and Garrus.

[EpicBoot2daFace]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

This was one of the few decisions in the game that actually made a difference. DId you kill Wrex on Virmire, and is so, why?

Anybody who kills wrex on virmire deserves an epic boot to the face.

Hmm...

Modifié par EpicBoot2daFace, 23 mai 2013 - 08:57 .

[KaiserShep]

jtav wrote...

Am I the only person who doesn't like Wrex? I don't dislike him, but I could take or leave both him and Garrus.

Smells like blasphemy! 

[javeart]

jtav wrote...

Am I the only person who doesn't like Wrex? I don't dislike him, but I could take or leave both him and Garrus.

I don't like them either, not in ME1. Garrus, I always recruit him, because I do like him in ME2 and ME3. But Wrex... in a lot of playthroughs I don't even recruit him, and then in ME3 I sabotage the cure just to save Mordin But never killed him, I could never do that