OneCoolCow wrote...
The problem I find is the clicking, sometimes it is amazing difficult to get a single squared touchpad to right click, and how do u aim and shoot at the same time? Like ring finger on right click, middle controlling aiming, and pointer on left click? HOW HWY HWERE HWEN WUT I am actually sorta intrigued and want to try this out for myself again.
Peer of the Empire wrote...
pc master race
Oggy666 wrote...
Also you should eat soup with a fork, because using a spoon is too easy and feels silly...
Luyza wrote...
Okay. My keyboard is Razer Tarantula, which is hardly typing equipment (every key is fully programable including macros) and mouses SS Diablo 3 and SS WoW 2 (14 buttons and any of those can be assigned at least 4 different actions).
Next your arcade. Missile Command and Warlords (IIRC name) had both trackballs (basically mouse on back) so this argument is invalid. Anyway, most games there have pretty much simple controls, one stick and one to four buttons.
Keyboard was forced? First game ever was text-based game controlled by gues what? Keyboard.
"Playing games with a gamepad is what videogames is all about." Lol at this. Tell this to teens, not us "old dogs" who went through ZX Spectrum/C64/Atari/Amiga and more, which all had games controlled by keyboard and/or mouse. Joystick was just one of options.
NES was released 1985 (outside of Japan), Atari XL 1979, ZX Spectrum and C64 1982. Computers (and keyboards) win again. Granted, I've got my ZX in 1990, but that's the price of living in communist controlled country.
That most games nowadays are designed with gamepad in mind is probably true. It's probably main reason why are they so dumbed down. No shortcuts, only a few usable skills/abilities and so on. On PC we have things like Starcraft, WoW, Freespace (and other space sims, but those are usually better controlled by joystick instead of mouse). Try those with gamepad.
TL;DR: Basically what you're getting at is that game that requires more than analog stick and a few buttons to control is not a propper game with which I respectfully disagree.
Titus Thongger wrote...
Warcraft and starcraft
C&C / Red Alert
quake
Doom
counterstrike
These were the revolutionary games of their time that set the stage for everything else to come. And they were all PC games.
Modifié par Luyza, 21 mai 2013 - 09:36 .
Yes, if you do that, many on BSN will call you something like "master race peezeehaxcheater". Edit: well the locked T is an issue of Mass Effect, what I more wonder is why default layout is WASD instead ESDF of every game I know.Luyza wrote...
@Meeps: That's probably because T is assigned to disabled textchat in coalesced, so you need to edit it (coalesced) to be able to reassign it.
I still buy mostly boxed games, since they suprisingly are mostly cheaper then the digital copy.EDIT: @Daemion: PC sales mostly doesn't include digital sales. I've bougt like 5 boxed games since HL2 forced me to install Steam and my Steam library has over 300 titles.
Modifié par Meeeps, 21 mai 2013 - 11:42 .
Modifié par kajtarp, 21 mai 2013 - 03:34 .
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kajtarp wrote...
why on earth would i play a fps/tps game on pc without mouse and with a joy instead? thats like replacing a sport car for a wheelchair.
the only games where a joy becomes useful are flight simulators.
EntropicAngel wrote...
kajtarp wrote...
why on earth would i play a fps/tps game on pc without mouse and with a joy instead? thats like replacing a sport car for a wheelchair.
the only games where a joy becomes useful are flight simulators.
By "joy" the OP means "joypad" or gamepad, not joystick.
Sinful Force wrote...
I mean, wow, why would anyone find a mouse & key more comfortable then a joypad?
And if gamepads aren't supported: For real?!
Only asking because I'm thinking of starting another manifest on PC next (would feel real good to get rid of that horrid auto aim that's constantly ****ing things up especially for SNIPERS!!! AAAHHHH!!!! KINDA CRACK WAS BIOWARE SMOKING?!??!) But if I can't plug a gamepad and enjoy, then f that, I'm going to the PS3 and take my chances with Collector crashes for my next manifest.
Modifié par Shephard-Commander909, 21 mai 2013 - 06:10 .
Sinful Force wrote...
Look, I know how to master race and play. But I play & much prefer with gaming equipment, and not typing equipment (lol). You see, when you go to the arcades, you don't see setups that include computer mouse and keyboard. That would be silly. Mouse & key is silly people, very silly. Stop being silly. These are typing equipment for crying out loud being forced to do gaming.
Playing videogames with a gamepad is what videogames is all about. Gaming without it is just not really gaming. It's just geeting by. This whole mouse & key BS is really just a casual gamer getting by thing, cause they probably barely play games and/or it's not that important to them to invest in proper gaming equipment. Which is fine. But me, I've been playing since the NES days when I first discovered it when I came to Canada from Romania. And I love my vid games & gaming comfortably & games balanced just right for gamepads/Arade sticks.
Then there is the matter that practically all games are designed with a gamepad in mind. So most games I play with a gamepad/arcade stick = me playing as intended (even ME3 was designed with a gamepad in mind). And when lame companies as Nintendo & BioWare force me to play via another method without giving me the option, I give them the finger. Choice is very important in life, fight for it. Why haven't you guys done this already? There are clearly others here that prefer gamepads as me.
Sinful Force wrote...
PhazonJulian wrote...
If you're on xbox you don't have to.... hell I've played PC FPS with the wii remote and the nunchuk for the lulz.Sinful Force wrote...
PhazonJulian wrote...
Real gamers play everything with anything, we don't scrub about one missing option for scrubs.
That does not compute. It makes much more sense to assume that the casual gamers stick with mouse and key while the more serious gamers say f that. I'm a gonna invest in a PC gamepad.
Learn to master race.
Edit: L2P
Look, I know how to master race and play. But I play & much prefer with gaming equipment, and not typing equipment (lol). You see, when you go to the arcades, you don't see setups that include computer mouse and keyboard. That would be silly. Mouse & key is silly people, very silly. Stop being silly. These are typing equipment for crying out loud being forced to do gaming.
Playing videogames with a gamepad is what videogames is all about. Gaming without it is just not really gaming. It's just geeting by. This whole mouse & key BS is really just a casual gamer getting by thing, cause they probably barely play games and/or it's not that important to them to invest in proper gaming equipment. Which is fine. But me, I've been playing since the NES days when I first discovered it when I came to Canada from Romania. And I love my vid games & gaming comfortably & games balanced just right for gamepads/Arade sticks.
Then there is the matter that practically all games are designed with a gamepad in mind. So most games I play with a gamepad/arcade stick = me playing as intended (even ME3 was designed with a gamepad in mind
Modifié par Caldari Ghost, 22 mai 2013 - 08:08 .
Modifié par Luyza, 22 mai 2013 - 09:11 .
Caldari Ghost wrote...
just getting by, you say? casual gamers, you say?
Another serious problem in gaming (Take a look at Elder Crack/Fallout gameplay, Final Fantasy job systems gameplay, etc, etc). The more complex a game is, the more poorly balanced it is/easier to find game breaking bugs/etc. because it would require way to many freakin man hours and testers to test all properly, and then re-test it, repeat, rinse, repeat, repeat, lol, lol, lol. Just a freakin big mess. Simple yet deep too is always the best answer, or at least pretty close to this (as in doesn't have to be too extreme), as the further away from it, the harder it is to balance things and not lose track of more important things too or what not (and yeah, complex games are still fine, as I love Skyrim still, lol... heck it even simplyfied over the past games in gameplay, no? Thus maybe why it's better?). ME series as and excellent example; look at that the overly complicated mess that is ME1 and how making things more simple greatly improved & balanced ME2 (too bad there's still too many that prefer ME1 broken gameplay for who know why reason?.. last playthrough through series I had top skip ME1 due to horrid gameplay... I mostly replay & always loved the ME series for their gameplay now of which part 1 don't count... er, no offense to ME1 fans, and so many other things rule best in that game, like story, enviroment, music,... just not gameplay for sure 
).
PhazonJulian wrote...
You just want to justify your existence the lamest way possible.
... Well I'm for sure done. I can't do a better job explaining what I mean then that + I'm totally not good at explaining to begin with.... wish I had a lawyer to use the power of words that I lack. I would win even if I'm wrong then. ... Besides, I got the answer I asked for with this thread anyways. Roll on the steak!
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