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[Xilizhra]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

If I had to guess, I'd say that a Kossith and pairing of any other race would result in a Kossith offspring, though the only place I could imagine one being born was if a Kossith was captured as a slave by the Tevinter and then raped.

There are several reasons where that happening in any way that might lead to breeding is extraordinarily unlikely (female qunari don't enter combat and are unlikely to be captured, any magistrix who habitually rapes male prisoners is probably going to use protection). However, it may well happen the other way around.

Using protection? It's a fantasy setting! Are we Fable now?

"Hold on before I rape you, I just need to slip on my cast iron condomn before I have my way with you!"

Birth control is a pretty ancient concept. And sticking something over the cervix isn't exactly unintuitive.

[Fast Jimmy]

This thread already needs to die in a fire.

[Androme]

What is it with people and this disgusting fascination with race mixing?

[Volus Warlord]

Androme wrote...

What is it with people and this disgusting fascination with race mixing?

Allegations of racism/sexism/homophobia incoming! Activate your flame shield!

[Androme]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Androme wrote...

What is it with people and this disgusting fascination with race mixing?

Allegations of racism/sexism/homophobia incoming! Activate your flame shield!

''u r raccits cuz u dont want see kosceth femele luv intrist?????????''

''lol y r u racist m8 ppl love 3v3ry0n3 y33 l0v3 4 34rth<3<3XDXD''

Believe me, I'm used to this ****. *slowly facepalms*

[Enigmatick]

Qunari condoms is my new phrase of the day.

Modifié par Enigmatick, 20 mai 2013 - 02:24 .

[Volus Warlord]

Enigmatick wrote...

Qunari condoms is my new phrase of the day.

Remember, they are cast iron.

[Xilizhra]

Androme wrote...

What is it with people and this disgusting fascination with race mixing?

Race mixing is an evolutionary advantage, as it weeds out those pesky genetic diseases that almost always reside on recessive genes. And why is this disgusting in any case?

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

In the pragmatic world of DA:O this BS doesn't exist. In DA2 and DA:I I don't know!

[Medhia Nox]

@Xilizhra: Race mixing is not possible.

Once you declare "magic" - then the term is doubly irrelevant because you're invalidating any use of it (especially in the way you're using it).

As for "alarmism"  - you're the biggest mage terrorist supporter on these forums.

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 20 mai 2013 - 02:50 .

[billy the squid]

Xilizhra wrote...

Androme wrote...

What is it with people and this disgusting fascination with race mixing?

Race mixing is an evolutionary advantage, as it weeds out those pesky genetic diseases that almost always reside on recessive genes. And why is this disgusting in any case?

Pfffft, way to mistake species for race.

It's genetic pollution. The Kossith are perfectly adapted for their roles, the Qun's acceptance and structure ensures the traits of each species are utilised to ther maximum advantage, dilution pf the specie's racial traits, weakens it and it's advantages to the greater society of the Qun.

[Androme]

Xilizhra wrote...

Androme wrote...

What is it with people and this disgusting fascination with race mixing?

Race mixing is an evolutionary advantage, as it weeds out those pesky genetic diseases that almost always reside on recessive genes. And why is this disgusting in any case?

Back to biology class.

Race mixing slows down the evolutionary process and increases the risk for genetic disorder. There is absolutely no advantage for race mixing, and it is disgusting because it's subtle genocide. Every species and race should be preserved.

(Edit, just to clarify, in the DA universe, humans are a ''race'', while in real life, humans are a species, hence why I refer to this as race mixing (qunari + human) instead of mixing species)

Modifié par Androme, 20 mai 2013 - 03:16 .

[Homebound]

please let this qunari x warden/hawke shipping die. it was writerblocked b4 da2's release and it sure as heck isnt changing now.

[Sashimi_taco]

Honestly it is probably much more likely that all these species can have offspring (if we are using the logic of the world we live in right now).

Early humans had a lot of variants. Neaderthals, regular mainstream humans, and then there were these super big human variants (can't remember their scientific name. Bones with DNA testing were found and that dna was found in the human genome). They all interbred to make the species we are today.

So even though the quinari look different, it isn't that impossible that human could have kids with them. Kind of like dogs.

[Sashimi_taco]

Androme wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Androme wrote...

What is it with people and this disgusting fascination with race mixing?

Race mixing is an evolutionary advantage, as it weeds out those pesky genetic diseases that almost always reside on recessive genes. And why is this disgusting in any case?

Back to biology class.

Race mixing slows down the evolutionary process and increases the risk for genetic disorder. There is absolutely no advantage for race mixing, and it is disgusting because it's subtle genocide. Every species and race should be preserved.

(Edit, just to clarify, in the DA universe, humans are a ''race'', while in real life, humans are a species, hence why I refer to this as race mixing (qunari + human) instead of mixing species)

I'll point to my post above about how humans are actually a mix of several different early races. And mixing races does not make you weaker, being mixed would make you more resistant to more diseases. I have no idea where you would think a biology class would tell you that. 

You're arguement is what white supremicists say about mixed race people in real life, and I am sure you didn't mean it that way but in the future be aware of that when saying that kind of stuff. It can be really hurtful.

Edit: And to the people who are saying there is a difference between mixing races and mixing species, it is actually impossible to mix two different species (if we are using real world science). If two animals can make viable offspring (can itself reproduce) then they are of the same species. 

I have no idea where everyone is getting the idea that mixing two types of people will make the offspring weaker. There is no example in the real world, nor in the dragon age universe of this. Mixing genes always makes the offspring stronger and less likely to have genetic disorders. The reason being that most people of a single decent are the result of imbreeding within their own locked geography for thousands of years. 

From dogs to different types of horses, mixing breeds/races always makes the offspring stronger. The only benifit of having a "pure breed" in most cases it to have a very specific skill but more often it is just to have them look cool.

Modifié par Sashimi_taco, 20 mai 2013 - 03:29 .

[Androme]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Androme wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Androme wrote...

What is it with people and this disgusting fascination with race mixing?

Race mixing is an evolutionary advantage, as it weeds out those pesky genetic diseases that almost always reside on recessive genes. And why is this disgusting in any case?

Back to biology class.

Race mixing slows down the evolutionary process and increases the risk for genetic disorder. There is absolutely no advantage for race mixing, and it is disgusting because it's subtle genocide. Every species and race should be preserved.

(Edit, just to clarify, in the DA universe, humans are a ''race'', while in real life, humans are a species, hence why I refer to this as race mixing (qunari + human) instead of mixing species)

I'll point to my post above about how humans are actually a mix of several different early races. And mixing races does not make you weaker, being mixed would make you more resistant to more diseases. I have no idea where you would think a biology class would tell you that. 

You're arguement is what white supremicists say about mixed race people in real life, and I am sure you didn't mean it that way but in the future be aware of that when saying that kind of stuff. It can be really hurtful.

Honestly I don't care how people take what I write, if they get butthurt then that's not something I can help, because I neither intended to insult anyone, nor do I say that they are worth any less because they are of mixed heritage. Also, humans are > NOT < ''actually'' a mix of several different early races, where on earth did you get that from? If we were, humanity would be a race, not a species, which we are.

[MisanthropePrime]

Legatus Arianus wrote...

In the pragmatic world of DA:O this BS doesn't exist. In DA2 and DA:I I don't know!

There were half-elves before DA2. At the very least there's the bastard son of Maric and Fiona, which most people think is Alistair. There's also Slim Couldry, and potentially Morrigan's son.

Modifié par MisanthropePrime, 20 mai 2013 - 03:27 .

[Big Magnet]

Androme wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Androme wrote...

What is it with people and this disgusting fascination with race mixing?

Race mixing is an evolutionary advantage, as it weeds out those pesky genetic diseases that almost always reside on recessive genes. And why is this disgusting in any case?

Back to biology class.

Race mixing slows down the evolutionary process and increases the risk for genetic disorder. There is absolutely no advantage for race mixing, and it is disgusting because it's subtle genocide. Every species and race should be preserved.

(Edit, just to clarify, in the DA universe, humans are a ''race'', while in real life, humans are a species, hence why I refer to this as race mixing (qunari + human) instead of mixing species)

My girlfriend's father is black, and her mother is a green eyed blonde. Does that make her a step backwards in evolution?

[Lavaeolus]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Qunari are followers of the Qun. It's a religious title. The actual race of those bronze skinned giants with horns which are colloquially refered to as "Qunari" are the Kossith.

The Qunari are the followers of the Qun. Kossith, however, does not refer to the race -- rather, it refers to the original people that existed before the Qun was made.

The actual race does not actually have a term. I suppose we could call them "ox-men" -- though not to their faces, eh?

[Sashimi_taco]

[quote]Androme wrote...


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Honestly I don't care how people take what I write, if they get butthurt then that's not something I can help, because I neither intended to insult anyone, nor do I say that they are worth any less because they are of mixed heritage. Also, humans are > NOT < ''actually'' a mix of several different early races, where on earth did you get that from? If we were, humanity would be a race, not a species, which we are.

[/quote]

http://discovermagaz...ng-neanderthals

http://www.dailymail...ew-species.html

http://en.wikipedia....enisova_hominin

If you don't care about being offensive, at least care about real sceintific facts rather than theories you made up with no evidence. 

[MisanthropePrime]

Mr Maniac wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Qunari are followers of the Qun. It's a religious title. The actual race of those bronze skinned giants with horns which are colloquially refered to as "Qunari" are the Kossith.

The Qunari are the followers of the Qun. Kossith, however, does not refer to the race -- rather, it refers to the original people that existed before the Qun was made.

The actual race does not actually have a term. I suppose we could call them "ox-men" -- though not to their faces, eh?

And yet we refer to "elves" as a diminutive of a society that also doesn't exist (Elvhenan).

[Lavaeolus]

@above: Obviously we should start calling them Kosses, then.

Modifié par Mr Maniac, 20 mai 2013 - 03:37 .

[Plaintiff]

I've yet to hear of it, but there's no reason to assume it could never happen. Humans can interbreed with elves and dwarves, despite only intermingling with these species in the past several thousand years.

Clearly "evolution" and "genetics" have nothing to do with the way reproduction works in Thedas, or if they do, they follow different laws. Any argument based in Earth science is irrelevant, because there's no proof that Thedas works that way.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 20 mai 2013 - 03:49 .

[billy the squid]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Androme wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Androme wrote...

What is it with people and this disgusting fascination with race mixing?

Race mixing is an evolutionary advantage, as it weeds out those pesky genetic diseases that almost always reside on recessive genes. And why is this disgusting in any case?

Back to biology class.

Race mixing slows down the evolutionary process and increases the risk for genetic disorder. There is absolutely no advantage for race mixing, and it is disgusting because it's subtle genocide. Every species and race should be preserved.

(Edit, just to clarify, in the DA universe, humans are a ''race'', while in real life, humans are a species, hence why I refer to this as race mixing (qunari + human) instead of mixing species)

I'll point to my post above about how humans are actually a mix of several different early races. And mixing races does not make you weaker, being mixed would make you more resistant to more diseases. I have no idea where you would think a biology class would tell you that. 

You're arguement is what white supremicists say about mixed race people in real life, and I am sure you didn't mean it that way but in the future be aware of that when saying that kind of stuff. It can be really hurtful.

Edit: And to the people who are saying there is a difference between mixing races and mixing species, it is actually impossible to mix two different species (if we are using real world science). If two animals can make viable offspring (can itself reproduce) then they are of the same species. 

I have no idea where everyone is getting the idea that mixing two types of people will make the offspring weaker. There is no example in the real world, nor in the dragon age universe of this. Mixing genes always makes the offspring stronger and less likely to have genetic disorders. The reason being that most people of a single decent are the result of imbreeding within their own locked geography for thousands of years. 

From dogs to different types of horses, mixing breeds/races always makes the offspring stronger. The only benifit of having a "pure breed" in most cases it to have a very specific skill but more often it is just to have them look cool.

This isn't race mixing, it's species mixing. Hence the genetic pollution and degredation

And you should know the issues around genomes, they are often incompatible, while species from the same genetic branch often suffer from sterile offspring.

And the Qun doesn't practice "it looks cool" It's eugenics and selective breeding don't work on the basis of "it looks cool"