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XBOX Announcement for May 21st, 2013 discussion thread (OP updated with three new polls)


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I just realized, I don't give a damn about that thing (or any other controller past, present, and future) unless they found a way to minimize issues of thumbstick tilt from gamepad use.

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This is all on top of having to pay for the Xbox Live service. If you don't, all the media features will be locked.


As long as I can still play games on it, I can live with that.


Games? What are games?

Are those the things you could be doing instead of watching TV and snapping to Internet Explorer? 

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Microsoft and all these other publishers have invested into holding back the used-game market but in all honesty I find it surprising that it's even a big deal at all. I would have bet that most people would spend the extra 5 dollars on a brand new copy. I myself only buy pre-owned when there aren't any new copies left of something.

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A slightly more in-depth side by side view posted on IGN's facebook:

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Aye but thats comparing X1 to PS4. I wanted to show people 360 to X1 so they could judge if they've improved, which everyone says they have, so props to them for a better controller.

Of course, I want to get my hands on it first.

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Kinect will rebel.

Microsoft is going to destroy humanity.


And absolutely no one should be surprised. :whistle:

If and when your Xbox asks you if it has a soul, you know its about to hit the fan and then we will all learn that the Catalyst was right.
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I'll make sure to ask questions first shoot it later. Don't wanna end up like the Quarians. :lol:

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I don't think they'll really combat "used games" without pissing off gamers... though gamers are the one buying used, which from my perspective, at least from where I live - new releases, used... are what, 5 bucks cheaper? Is that really worth it?


Well, I personally got ME2 for 20 bucks. Would've never gotten into the series if that game was $60; I just bought it on a whim, and because a lot of people said it was good.

That random purchase actually made EA a lot of money in the long run. I got one of the DLCs for ME1, all of the DLCs except for Arrival on ME2, and all of the DLCs except for Omega for ME3. I also bought ME3 new. Not too shabby.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

Microsoft and all these other publishers have invested into holding back the used-game market but in all honesty I find it surprising that it's even a big deal at all. I would have bet that most people would spend the extra 5 dollars on a brand new copy. I myself only buy pre-owned when there aren't any new copies left of something.


I've routinely bought new-release games for about $15-20 less---sometimes more---roughly a week after release if I go used, either on eBay or Amazon.  And you can find some decent deals in tangible stores too, if you know where to look.

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Believe me folks, I would love to build a PC but my tech skills are nil. I could maybe learn how over the summer but who knows.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

Microsoft and all these other publishers have invested into holding back the used-game market but in all honesty I find it surprising that it's even a big deal at all. I would have bet that most people would spend the extra 5 dollars on a brand new copy. I myself only buy pre-owned when there aren't any new copies left of something.

I actually never buy pre-own, but I do loan games out to friends every so often, they do the same. All this connectivity to skype/social media and what not seems to forget that gamers could form their own social circles before hand.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

Microsoft and all these other publishers have invested into holding back the used-game market but in all honesty I find it surprising that it's even a big deal at all. I would have bet that most people would spend the extra 5 dollars on a brand new copy. I myself only buy pre-owned when there aren't any new copies left of something.


I've only bought used once and that was Fable 2, like a month before Fable 3 came out, just to catch up, but otherwise, I prefer my games new and I prefer to have the actually disc, instead of the digital market.  

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Eh xbox and ps gamepads with that basic layout are interchangeable IMO, I refuse to give them credit for minor ergonomic changes, it's the same damn thing.

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HiddenInWar wrote...

Believe me folks, I would love to build a PC but my tech skills are nil. I could maybe learn how over the summer but who knows.

So are mine but some 20 minute videos made it seem simple enough.

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Eh xbox and ps gamepads with that basic layout are interchangeable IMO, I refuse to give them credit for minor ergonomic changes, it's the same damn thing.


No.

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I'm starting to watch Angry Joe's analysis of the Xbox One, and I love that opening line he makes.

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spirosz wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Microsoft and all these other publishers have invested into holding back the used-game market but in all honesty I find it surprising that it's even a big deal at all. I would have bet that most people would spend the extra 5 dollars on a brand new copy. I myself only buy pre-owned when there aren't any new copies left of something.


I've only bought used once and that was Fable 2, like a month before Fable 3 came out, just to catch up, but otherwise, I prefer my games new and I prefer to have the actually disc, instead of the digital market.  


With this new scheme the disc will be obsolete.:(

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

spirosz wrote...

I don't think they'll really combat "used games" without pissing off gamers... though gamers are the one buying used, which from my perspective, at least from where I live - new releases, used... are what, 5 bucks cheaper? Is that really worth it?


Well, I personally got ME2 for 20 bucks. Would've never gotten into the series if that game was $60; I just bought it on a whim, and because a lot of people said it was good.

That random purchase actually made EA a lot of money in the long run. I got one of the DLCs for ME1, all of the DLCs except for Arrival on ME2, and all of the DLCs except for Omega for ME3. I also bought ME3 new. Not too shabby.


Well, it wasn't 20 bucks till when, a while after?  I understand a month or two (if the price goes down to like 40 bucks), but a week or so after, the 5 dollars less for something not mint, doesn't seem worth it, IMO, haha.  

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The Patriot Act in a box

Privacy is supposedly a top priority for Microsoft despite Kinect having to always be on and always listening. That sounds convincing. I'm convinced.

I'm really not convinced.

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Believe me folks, I would love to build a PC but my tech skills are nil. I could maybe learn how over the summer but who knows.

So are mine but some 20 minute videos made it seem simple enough.


^ Basically.  I had a laptop at the time and went step by step, it took me 6 hours, but I didn't give a fuuck.  I learned at my own pace and it was worth it.  

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No.

Yes.

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The Patriot Act in a box

Privacy is supposedly a top priority for Microsoft despite Kinect having to always be on and always listening. That sounds convincing. I'm convinced.

I'm really not convinced.


That's actually a tad bit unsettling.

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Eh xbox and ps gamepads with that basic layout are interchangeable IMO, I refuse to give them credit for minor ergonomic changes, it's the same damn thing.


No.


With Hanar here. Those "minor ergonomic changes" actually make big differences when holding a controller.

My stepbrother frequently complains about his wrists hurting after holding his PS3 controller for a couple of hours, while I can hold my 360 controller for over a quarter of a day and have no issues.

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Filament wrote...

Yes.


Ergonomics are a pretty big deal. Both of those controllers have a different feel.

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HiddenInWar wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

The Patriot Act in a box

Privacy is supposedly a top priority for Microsoft despite Kinect having to always be on and always listening. That sounds convincing. I'm convinced.

I'm really not convinced.


That's actually a tad bit unsettling.


Very unsettling to me.

Nope. NOPE NOPE NOPE.

I can do without that thanks. :blink:

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Yes.


Ergonomics are a pretty big deal. Both of those controllers have a different feel.


Yep.  I can't play fighting games on the Xbox controller, feels wack, while the PS3 feels fluent for me.  It's all preference on your hands, etc. 

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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

The Patriot Act in a box

Privacy is supposedly a top priority for Microsoft despite Kinect having to always be on and always listening. That sounds convincing. I'm convinced.

I'm really not convinced.


I liked the idea of voice-command technology a lot more before said tech was required to be "always online".