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Warden's Keep Coercion Question


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Oracle Thunder

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Playing DA: O again and keep getting stuck at Warden's keep. In the past I've been able to lie to Sophia Dryden to get her to close the veil, kill Avernus and get his gear, and betray Sophia (she is shocked) and get the Warden armor. I used to do the Keep almost as soon as I could (get Shale first).

Now this playthrough every time I persuade (lie) she 'smells the sweet stench of lies on my breath, this one seeks to betray'. I have 4 coercion and 39 cunning. What is the coercion score needed to lie to Sophia? Anyone know?

This must have changed with an update. I want to kill everyone and get my exp and loot. Image IPB
Please help.

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Bhryaen

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Greedy for XP and loot though I am, I've never chosen that path... Huh. Yet another playthrough to plan!:devil:

The DAwiki only calls it  "a final, very hard persuade option." Wish I knew the specifics as well, though it seems I'd have to sacrifice a lot to get the coersion and Cunning I'd need to make it work at a lower level. Otherwise I'd go through a huge portion of the game without the best-looking armor in the game... and without the Dryden armorer who makes things into Dragonbone earlier than any other merchant... Decisions, decisions...

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Oracle Thunder

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Yeah I have the lethality skill that uses cunning instead strength for damage so once I have 25 strength (Duncan's sword req) I dump it all into cunning and dexterity.