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[Meeeps]

The time you needed to start this thread could also be used to make a cheater report, which might be as much useful now. ;-)

Edit: just leaving is one part, but you could also try to make the game of the cheater as much unfun as possible specially on objects waves.

Modifié par Meeeps, 22 mai 2013 - 12:30 .

[foli567]

if you get caught in a game with a cheater yes it may ruin your fun but there isnt that many online i just played 8 plats in a row with not cheaters anywhere its not hard to find a PUG with no glitchers and if your so worried bout lossing a lv 4 ammo mod then get your weight up

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

The-Fantasm wrote...

{snipping the jpg that should become standard BSN practice}

You are gonna have SO many excuses to use that! 

OP:
You have presented anecdotal evidence, false conclusions, and your grasp of logic would make a Vulcan cry.*

Also, you exhibit deeply selfish and myopic views on a shared multiplayer experience. It is actually quite funny that you are deliberately trying to rile up a bunch of people who have seen dozens of missile glitchers like yourself come in here to complain about how unfair the world is to you.

With all due respect (which would be very little): Grow up, just a little please. The averge twelve-year-old plays better with others than you do! 

(*Think about it, that was actually kinda' a clever thing to say! )

Modifié par Jeremiah12LGeek, 22 mai 2013 - 01:34 .

[Aetika]

foli567 wrote...

if you get caught in a game with a
cheater yes it may ruin your fun but there isnt that many online i just
played 8 plats in a row with not cheaters anywhere its not hard to find
a PUG with no glitchers and if your so worried bout lossing a lv 4 ammo
mod then get your weight up

But why should be people who don´t cheat inconvenienced like that?

Modifié par Aetika, 22 mai 2013 - 12:40 .

[Meeeps]

I am not sure, if OP argues against or in favour of the cheaters...

[Samerandomscreennameidontcareabout]

foli567 wrote...

yes cuz im 12. If you dont like glitchers then don't play with them its that simple, like i said find some friends .

I have plenty of "friends" in my origin list. I play with them whenever they find the time ( which is sadly very few times, probably means I am not worth the trouble to be invited to their games... *takes a stern look at deerber and the others on his list* but I try to make regular efforts... anyway, another topic ).

You still haven´t argue what makes the glitchers right to glitch MORE important than the NON Glitchers right to NON glitch.

To quote Mr. Spock... "The needs of the many... blabla." - Glitchers are imho in the wrong here, so why do NON glitchers need to backup?

Edit: To clarify: I come to this forum to listen to arguments and to be convinced of what´s right and wrong. As you I may have my prejudices, but I reserve the right to be swayed in my oppinion by your arguments.

So far you have only advertised for a certain tolerance of cheaters/glitchers, which does not convince me the slightest, because they impede on my fun and the way the game is presumed to be played. You making me seem like a socially-isolated individual may be right or not, but it does not carry any weight regarding your non existing arguments as to WHY we should tolerate DISRUPTIVE behaviour.

Modifié par Samerandomscreennameidontcareabout, 22 mai 2013 - 12:59 .

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Yo dawg I love the way you use those paragraphs.

I couldn't come up with a punch line.

He just doesn't like paragraphs.

[Innocent Bystander]

palmof40sorrows wrote...

Lol at "better games."

You're too kind. ROFLMAO at "better games".

[foli567]

Glitching is wrong and its cheating but like i said it so simple to find games without cheaters it is not that big of a problem as ppl make it out to be . Like ****ing about it is so stupid its like me slapping myself in the face and complaining about the pain, the simple solution would be to stop slapping myself just like for non glitchers the simple solution is to press two buttons and back out of a game. if you glitch thats fine if you dont thats fine too but if you dont , then dont act like the worlds over cuz u ran into a glitcher and like i said before it really hard to find yourself in a PUG game with glitchers if you dont want to like there is obvious signs that a person or group is gunna glitch if you see those then find a new lobby, if you join a game and ppl are cheating than leave and its rare tht someone can join your group mid game and start glitching. I have used the glitch a lot before matter fact i was one of the people that sparked the 2nd or 3rd version of the glitch and i have survived 7 ban waves so your reports dont do as much as you think ,i dont glitch anymore unless a friend needs help but i also dont care if other ppl do its easy money and it take only 15 mins . I now just do legit speed runs for money, and i dont think anything is unfair because ive nvr been banned and like ive always said if i get banned my life will go on , why? because mass effect is just a game

[ISHYGDDT]

Frankly, I think only a small fraction of the people (mainly leaderboard ****s) who now have an issue with missile glitchers would give a **** if missile glitchers chose to only play private games. The problem is that they interfere with the legitimate play of the rest of people on console. So, if you missile glitch and are reading this, don't be a ****, keep it to private games.

[Striker93175]

foli567 wrote...

palmof40sorrows wrote...

Lol at "better games."

why ? mass effect is dying and it repetative with no pvp online thats why i went to better games ex halo,cod, skyrim , Creed 3, BF and many others. Games that are more unique evey match, and take some sort of skill vs other people.

Dude, I love skyrim.  I mean LOVE skyrim.  My main character has 792 hours logged.  I have 3 characters   But skyrim is waaaay buggy. WAY buggy.  From bugged quests to bugged items to physic defying horses that can power up the side of mountains... Items duping and or missing from the floor when you drop them or put them on mannequins to random enemies spawning in towns they don't belong...  Screen freezes to occasional pop-in issues...  I have to say bad example.  Way bad example.  I love my skyrim, I really do... but this game is not even close to being as buggy as skyrim.

[Samerandomscreennameidontcareabout]

foli567 wrote...
i dont glitch anymore unless a friend needs help

i see you are a man of principles... lol. If you can´t help a friend without glitching, what good is your help anyway? You only show your friends that glitching is the way to go. Instead it is the easy way out preventing any improvement in player´s skill. You are not helping, you are ruining a promising gamer. Thank you very much for your community service.

Edit: I have a few players on my friend´s list whom I really helped. With tactics, build advise, carry<ing them through gold matches and all of those players improved and had fun. So don´t give me the "Glitching is the way to help people"-argument, because it´s not.

foli567 wrote...
 and i have survived 7 ban waves so your reports dont do as much as you think

 Actually, i think Bioware is doing a pisspoor job at catching cheaters. A simple database query would be all that´s needed to catch 90% of the coalesced hackers. Takes an hour to implement. But we still get reports from the community who report people with 250 games and 250 million credits. Good for you, though, you didn´t get banned.
 
OTOH for me that´s just another example of a rulesbreaker getting away with being a ****. Sorry for the harsh language, but what makes people think cheating in a game is ok when cheating with spare change at the burger kings is not?

Still haven´t heard an argument from you why glitching is good. You only tell people who want to play the game as it was intended to play to go f.ck themselves and stop whining.

foli567 wrote...
why? because mass effect is just a game

It is. Indeed. It is a mighty fine game. Until a glitcher comes along and BREAKS the rules of the game. We are not palying chess anymore. Well i am, but you suddenly are able to take ten turns in a row. Thank you very much.

If you still haven´t understood, that the game is NOT fun anymore, when someone in the team is able to break the rules and thus trivializes ALL the choices and your effort you can ever make, then I cannot convey my message to you at all.

You can advertise as much as you want for tolerance of cheating in a multiplayer game. When you don´t understand people don´t like to be imposed with a one sided rule change from a glitcher in their game, then honestly, welcome to my blacklist.

Modifié par Samerandomscreennameidontcareabout, 22 mai 2013 - 01:31 .

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

foli567 wrote...

Glitching is wrong and its cheating {snip}

I have used the glitch a lot before matter fact i was one of the people that sparked the 2nd or 3rd version of the glitch and i have survived 7 ban waves so your reports dont do as much as you think
{more snip}

I tend to have little patience for whining. Especially when the person who is doing the whining is selfishly ruining other peoples' games, stealing from the company whose support I was counting on to improve that game, and having the gall to complain about how people could dare to be upset over such sefish behaviour.

I'm tempted to violate my rule about reporting trolls, but I won't.

Because I am confident your attempt will backfire without any interference from me.

And thanks! 

I love a good karma story in the morning. I feel a little better going forward in the day when someone trying to ruin others' fun shoots themselves in the foot.

[Aetika]

So you are saying glitching is wrong, then you are saying "if you glitch it´s fine"...
You are basically saying that people who don´t cheat should just suck it up in favor of cheaters. Which is morally completely twisted.
And I still don´t understand why are you telling people how they should behave when they meet cheater. Was one of your friends banned or what??

BTW, you know what´s also simple? To report cheater.

Modifié par Aetika, 22 mai 2013 - 01:46 .

[CrimsonN7]

OP TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!!! TEAR IT DOWN!
http://t3.gstatic.co...lrIMZBvyr-tYl3w

Seriously didn't read, learn to paragraph.

[foli567]

Samerandomscreennameidontcareabout wrote...

foli567 wrote...
i dont glitch anymore unless a friend needs help

i see you are a man of principles... lol. If you can´t help a friend without glitching, what good is your help anyway? You only show your friends that glitching is the way to go. Instead it is the easy way out preventing any improvement in player´s skill. You are not helping, you are ruining a promising gamer. Thank you very much for your community service.

Edit: I have a few players on my friend´s list whom I really helped. With tactics, build advise, carry<ing them through gold matches and all of those players improved and had fun. So don´t give me the "Glitching is the way to help people"-argument, because it´s not.

foli567 wrote...
 and i have survived 7 ban waves so your reports dont do as much as you think

 Actually, i think Bioware is doing a pisspoor job at catching cheaters. A simple database query would be all that´s needed to catch 90% of the coalesced hackers. Takes an hour to implement. But we still get reports from the community who report people with 250 games and 250 million credits. Good for you, though, you didn´t get banned.
 
OTOH for me that´s just another example of a rulesbreaker getting away with being a ****. Sorry for the harsh language, but what makes people think cheating in a game is ok when cheating with spare change at the burger kings is not?

Still haven´t heard an argument from you why glitching is good. You only tell people who want to play the game as it was intended to play to go f.ck themselves and stop whining.

foli567 wrote...
why? because mass effect is just a game

It is. Indeed. It is a mighty fine game. Until a glitcher comes along and BREAKS the rules of the game. We are not palying chess anymore. Well i am, but you suddenly are able to take ten turns in a row. Thank you very much.

If you still haven´t understood, that the game is NOT fun anymore, when someone in the team is able to break the rules and thus trivializes ALL the choices and your effort you can ever make, then I cannot convey my message to you at all.

You can advertise as much as you want for tolerance of cheating in a multiplayer game. When you don´t understand people don´t like to be imposed with a one sided rule change from a glitcher in their game, then honestly, welcome to my blacklist.

  I dont mean helpinng a friend as in teaching them how to get better i mean if they want to glitch instead of going legit than ill go along and help out, not cuz i need to but i want to chat with my friends and its easy money. Also mass effect is a good game but its so repetative and predictable and takes very little skill even on plat , like i said before legit speed runs are a piece of cake and even just playing plat is super easy and its been like that since day 1.

And you say you havent heard any argument for why cheating is good and thats because i never said it was right or good its a good way to make money and level up and get better stuff if you dont feeling spending 20-40 mins on one match, all i said is ppl complaining about it need to stfu becuase there are so many simple soulutions to avoid cheaters that is should be inpossible for a smart non glitch to be caught in a glitching game.

And do you no read what i write i have said many times that i understand  it can suck when you get stuck in a glitiching game when you dont want to , but now with all the patches it is pretty hard for that to happen yet everyone is still crying about the glitch

[phunkeybuddha]

foli567 wrote...
Like ****ing about it is so stupid its like me slapping myself in the
face and complaining about the pain, the simple solution would be to
stop slapping myself just like for non glitchers the simple solution is
to press two buttons and back out of a game

Funny but what you say works both ways. The glitch makes the game so easy, why bother making it public at all? Seriously, all you would need is 2 people on platinum. On objective waves, one person is glitching & the other is doing the objective. Even better if it's Targets. It's even a far more simple solution than pressing two buttons to back
out since all you need to do is press left on the privacy settings.

The onus is on the glitchers to do their thing in a private match so they can glitch to their hearts' content w/o bothering the normal players not the the other way around. There are players who even kick people who do way too much better than them because they feel it's ruining their fun so I know glitchers are tolerated even less. 

[SilentStep79]

if this is a troll: 0/10
if this is not a troll: are you f*cking kidding me?

[foli567]

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

foli567 wrote...

Glitching is wrong and its cheating {snip}

I have used the glitch a lot before matter fact i was one of the people that sparked the 2nd or 3rd version of the glitch and i have survived 7 ban waves so your reports dont do as much as you think
{more snip}

I tend to have little patience for whining. Especially when the person who is doing the whining is selfishly ruining other peoples' games, stealing from the company whose support I was counting on to improve that game, and having the gall to complain about how people could dare to be upset over such sefish behaviour.

I'm tempted to violate my rule about reporting trolls, but I won't.

Because I am confident your attempt will backfire without any interference from me.

And thanks! 

I love a good karma story in the morning. I feel a little better going forward in the day when someone trying to ruin others' fun shoots themselves in the foot.

How am i stealing from the company. The only money i am stopping them from getting is the money theyd get from my microtransactions if i were to spend real money on the packs but since i have better things to do with my money and i dont care that much about not having a type of gun in  a video game i would never use really money to buy a pack therefore they were not going to get any money from me anyways. Also if they are guuna stop the dlc and the balance changes , do you think thier gunna keep up the ban waves also if you read what i wrote you would see that i would not care at all if i got banned i have 3 other xbl accounts and 2 of them have pretty much the same amount of mass effect stuff on the, and i dont spend all day on xbl anyways
 

[SilentStep79]

foli567 wrote...

 i have 3 other xbl accounts and 2 of them have pretty much the same amount of mass effect stuff  

if you spent the time it took to get THREE OTHER ACCOUNTS of ME3 together and went legit, you might have been a decent player.

shame.

[Samerandomscreennameidontcareabout]

You are full of sh*t and contradictions.

foli567 wrote...
And do you no read what i write i have said many times that i understand  it can suck when you get stuck in a glitiching game when you dont want to , but now with all the patches it is pretty hard for that to happen yet everyone is still crying about the glitch
 

Missile glitching is still possible and patches have done nothing about it.

foli567 wrote...
And you say you havent heard any argument for why cheating is good and thats because i never said it was right or good its a good way to make money and level up and get better stuff if you dont feeling spending 20-40 mins on one matc
 

So essnetially cheating to cheat is not good, but cheating to get money, to cheat the time you need to paly this game is good ?! WTF? Get a new brain.

foli567 wrote...
How am i stealing from the company. The only money i am stopping them from getting is the money theyd get from my microtransactions if i were to spend real money on the packs but since i have better things to do with my money and i dont
 

I don´t steal. i only took away the burger from you, since I already paid for the fries.

I am out of words for this kind of bull****...

[foli567]

Aetika wrote...

So you are saying glitching is wrong, then you are saying "if you glitch it´s fine"...
You are basically saying that people who don´t cheat should just suck it up in favor of cheaters. Which is morally completely twisted.
And I still don´t understand why are you telling people how they should behave when they meet cheater. Was one of your friends banned or what??

BTW, you know what´s also simple? To report cheater.

Glitching is wrong in terms off not being legit and not being as fun but if peolple do it in a private match then it hurts no one other then the butt hurt kids who get mad at people have more stuff then them and like i said many time it is really hard to get stuck min a public game with glitchers now. What im saying is there are very simple and effective methods to avoiding cheaters but yet people dont seem to realize it/use those methods, and they continue to **** about it. The people i really am targeting are the people who might not even get matched up with cheaters ever yet they complain because they dont like being lower on the leader board or they are mad someone has more stuff because they cheated. An no ive know or played with over 50 cheaters id say and ive never known any of them to get banned. And it takes more time and effort to file a bioware cheaters report then to stfu and keep it moving

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

foli567 wrote...

How am i stealing from the company. The only money i am stopping them from getting is the money theyd get from my microtransactions if i were to spend real money on the packs {SNIP}

I have a rule that says: Don't mock people's intelligence. In your case I don't need to. I just have to quote you.

also if you read what i wrote you would see that i would not care at all if i got banned i have 3 other xbl accounts and 2 of them have pretty much the same amount of mass effect stuff on the, and i dont spend all day on xbl anyways
 

I think it's hysterical that you are suggesting I'm having trouble understanding what you wrote. 

I was the one who pegged you as a missile glitcher before you admitted it, remember? I think I have you figured out, just fine.

And feel free to keep whining in the ME 3 MP forum about how unfair the attitude about missile glitching is to you. I find this a lot of fun, actually. 

I'm no stranger to sarcasm, but I am not being sarcastic. Watching someone like you shoot themselves in the foot over and over is hilarious.

If I didn't know better, I'd think you were making it all up just to give BSN an excuse to bond over your {totally mean insult re: intelligence redacted due to above rule... }

[acicm2]

agree Calculon