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[Ravensword]

AresKeith wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

AshedMan wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

I think that Microsoft should stick to Windows.

Have you seen Win 8?  They can't even do Windows right anymore.  

The only time I've seen Windows 8 was on those tablet spots. Otherwise, no, I haven't. I have heard something about being required to be online to use Windows 8 or something. I don't know.

There's always cable company

Cable's cool. Netflix and premium movie channels are killing network TV.

[NeonFlux117]

@ Reezy- I am not wrong that PSN plus is Required for PS4 to play online games.

http://www.techradar...ription-1157989

http://www.ign.com/a...ps4-online-play

http://www.videogame...membership.html

http://www.videogame...ation_plus.html

http://www.playstati...s4-online-play/

http://asia.cnet.com...ng-62221586.htm

http://www.engadget....mpaign=Engadget


I am also not wrong when I say that I, (Me)- meaning a singular personal pronoun, do not know any COD gamer that plays splitscreen. All the people I know fapp off hard to COD's silly, but fun, MP.

I hope this clarifies things. And you and I are copacetic.

[TheBlackBaron]

Mr.House wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

I was talking to some friends today who aren't bias fanboys- owners of both consoles and pc's. And they said that all Microsoft has to is- not restrict used games, not always online (well, it's pretty much always online, needs internet every 24 hours), and a kinect-less model priced at or around 450 bucks.

I think these are reasonable things that microsoft should consider. Microsoft will not go down without a fight, and the raging fan-boysism of the internet is just a wh*re of the moment complex.

It ain't over. Not by a long shot. Microsoft still has exclusive content and still has halo. Their still very, very much alive.

Their exclusive stuff is not really that good and Halo is not enough for all the cons. There's also the issue of M$ giving the finger to indie devs where Sony has embraced them with a big hug.

I must be the only one who doesn't care at all about playing indie games on my console.

Like, seriously. If I'm interested in their game, I'll just go buy it directly from them for my PC, and they'll keep a bigger portion of the money I spend on it too. 

[Salamander Soup]

NeonFlux117 wrote...

Salamander Soup wrote...

The Xbox forums are in mega nuclear fallout, with members left and right excited about PS4. Maybe next gen Microsoft will correct mistakes.

link, I must view this exodus. 

Go to the official Xbox forums and look in Xbox one discussion.

[NeonFlux117]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

I was talking to some friends today who aren't bias fanboys- owners of both consoles and pc's. And they said that all Microsoft has to is- not restrict used games, not always online (well, it's pretty much always online, needs internet every 24 hours), and a kinect-less model priced at or around 450 bucks.

I think these are reasonable things that microsoft should consider. Microsoft will not go down without a fight, and the raging fan-boysism of the internet is just a wh*re of the moment complex.

It ain't over. Not by a long shot. Microsoft still has exclusive content and still has halo. Their still very, very much alive.

Their exclusive stuff is not really that good and Halo is not enough for all the cons. There's also the issue of M$ giving the finger to indie devs where Sony has embraced them with a big hug.

I must be the only one who doesn't care at all about playing indie games on my console.

Like, seriously. If I'm interested in their game, I'll just go buy it directly from them for my PC, and they'll keep a bigger portion of the money I spend on it too. 

me too, the only indie games I really enjoyed was Journey, and the Walking Dead. But like you said, indie games aren't gonna sell me, lol. I was just on the xbox forums. And I do think MS is gonna change it's buisness model for XB1, if not, they're gonna loose a lot. A TON. of costumers. I'll get an XB1- cause I don't think I can live without Halo. I've tired, but I always come back. Even BF3 on PC hasn't taken me away from Halo 4. So for me, Halo 4 is enough. But if I were a console only gamer. I gotta tell ya, the PS4- right now, looks  a lot better than XB1. Time will tell. 

[AresKeith]

NeonFlux117 wrote...

I am also not wrong when I say that I, (Me)- meaning a singular personal pronoun, do not know any COD gamer that plays splitscreen. All the people I know fapp off hard to COD's silly, but fun, MP.

I hope this clarifies things. And you and I are copacetic.

Just because you don't know any who used the splitscreeen doesn't mean people don't use it

Because I used it myself sometimes playing COD in the past

[NeonFlux117]

J. Reezy wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

@ Reezy- I am not wrong that PSN plus is Required for PS4 to play online games.

http://www.techradar...ription-1157989

http://www.ign.com/a...ps4-online-play

http://www.videogame...membership.html

http://www.videogame...ation_plus.html

http://www.playstati...s4-online-play/

http://asia.cnet.com...ng-62221586.htm

http://www.engadget....mpaign=Engadget


I am also not wrong when I say that I, (Me)- meaning a singular personal pronoun, do not know any COD gamer that plays splitscreen. All the people I know fapp off hard to COD's silly, but fun, MP.

I hope this clarifies things. And you and I are copacetic.

You keeep linking to things that I'm already aware of, and not even talking about.. You were wrong about the cost of the consoles.

nope. XB1 is 500 bucks. PS4 is 400.

Sony said that PSN will be 5 bucks or lower (lets just say 5 bucks for the sake of muffins and giggles) per month in order to play Online games on PS4. 5 multiplied by 12= 60. If you want to play online games Day 1 on PS4 then you'll have to buy PSN plus for 5 bucks a month or 60 bucks a year. 

400 (cost of PS4) + 60 (Cost of PSN for a year)= 460. 460 US dollars. I mean, you know it could be 4.90 bucks a month, it could be 4.75, it could be 4.35 a month. But bottom line is. It's not free. PSN on PS3 is free. PS4 is not. It's the truth. 

XB1 will do the same. 

Both sony and MS are shafting gamers. Sony is just shafting you a little less at release. 

[Ghost Lightning]

Having PS+ be required for multiplayer doesn't affect me personally as I already pay for the service for the sh!t ton of free games and other stuff (In fact I just downloaded Xcom: Enemy Unknown and LBP Karting for free today).

It's a little disappointing that they are restricting online MP to PS+ users, but I suppose they had no choice if they wanted to undercut MS on the console price point.

Think about it. For you or me it's just one payment of $399. But for Sony they are thinking "Okay, we are going to sell XXXX number of PS4s at $399 and that will make us XXXXX amount of money. In order to maintain our profit margarine we will need to garner outside revenue." They chose to turn to users that either own PS3 and don't pay for PS+ but still use the online features of games as well as users that won't mind the extra fee. Sods like me that already pay for the service don't matter because they need NEW money to get away with charging so little for the console.

tldr: If you already pay for PS+ than who the fvck cares, and if not than it is rather disappointing to see multiplayer become a paid service.

[ShepnTali]

Aside from bad user policies and game exclusives, everything else is just minutia.

[NeonFlux117]

J. Reezy wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...


nope. XB1 is 500 bucks. PS4 is 400.

Sony said that PSN will be 5 bucks or lower (lets just say 5 bucks for the sake of muffins and giggles) per month in order to play Online games on PS4. 5 multiplied by 12= 60. If you want to play online games Day 1 on PS4 then you'll have to buy PSN plus for 5 bucks a month or 60 bucks a year. 

400 (cost of PS4) + 60 (Cost of PSN for a year)= 460. 460 US dollars. I mean, you know it could be 4.90 bucks a month, it could be 4.75, it could be 4.35 a month. But bottom line is. It's not free. PSN on PS3 is free. PS4 is not. It's the truth. 

XB1 will do the same. 

Both sony and MS are shafting gamers. Sony is just shafting you a little less at release. 

You keep adding in a year of online service to the cost of consoles as if it's required. And you keep bringing up PSN on PS4. What part of "Things I already know about" did you not understand?

Cool story bro. I'm glad you know things. 

[Ravensword]

The Xbone reveal still amuses me w/ how they were promoting it as being good for watching lotsa TV and sports, as well as linear military shooters. I like the part where Steven Spielberg comes on to talk about the new Halo TV series as if that was going to insta-awesome the Xbone even though a Halo TV series has as much relevance to a video game console as I Love Lucy.

To this day I still wonder what the hell Microsoft was thinking. No one could be that stupid.

Modifié par Ravensword, 12 juin 2013 - 07:44 .

[ShepnTali]

#dealwithit really got the anti-Microsoft train rolling. Remember that nostalgic moment?

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

i heard the playstation community has increased by 76 % after E3

[NeonFlux117]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

i heard the playstation community has increased by 76 % after E3

yep, right now it don't look to good for the ole sexbox that's for sure. Sony's looking pretty good. 

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

NeonFlux117 wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

i heard the playstation community has increased by 76 % after E3

yep, right now it don't look to good for the ole sexbox that's for sure. Sony's looking pretty good. 

and M$ tries to calm everyone with PR tricks lol

uk.ign.com/articles/2013/06/12/microsofts-phil-spencer-this-isnt-a-sprint

[NeonFlux117]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

i heard the playstation community has increased by 76 % after E3

yep, right now it don't look to good for the ole sexbox that's for sure. Sony's looking pretty good. 

and M$ tries to calm everyone with PR tricks lol

uk.ign.com/articles/2013/06/12/microsofts-phil-spencer-this-isnt-a-sprint

"There are other means like Gamecom and TGS"..... That's when they're gonna announce big changes if they do. And I think they will. All they gotta do is not require online, not block used games and I think they'll be competitive. They're sweating it. Unless they know they're gonna change some things. I think they have to. If they stay the same, they're done. And done. 

[Ninja Stan]

If this discussion continues to be a console peeing contest, it will be locked. Platform wars are not permitted on the BSN.

[Weskerr]

NeonFlux117 wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

i heard the playstation community has increased by 76 % after E3

yep, right now it don't look to good for the ole sexbox that's for sure. Sony's looking pretty good. 

and M$ tries to calm everyone with PR tricks lol

uk.ign.com/articles/2013/06/12/microsofts-phil-spencer-this-isnt-a-sprint

"There are other means like Gamecom and TGS"..... That's when they're gonna announce big changes if they do. And I think they will. All they gotta do is not require online, not block used games and I think they'll be competitive. They're sweating it. Unless they know they're gonna change some things. I think they have to. If they stay the same, they're done. And done. 

From my perspective, even if they do end up giving in to angry consumers and drop the online requirement, the required kinect, and the used-game policy, I have built up enough resentment at their arrogance and audacity to never purchase the xbox1 from them despite any concessions they make. You don't **** with customers like this.

[Arcadian Legend]

Well, don't know if this is old or not but MS Exec Don Mattrick says offline gamers should just stick to Xbox 360.

http://www.escapistm...k-With-Xbox-360

[Ghost Lightning]

Arcadian Legend wrote...

Well, don't know if this is old or not but MS Exec Don Mattrick says offline gamers should just stick to Xbox 360.

http://www.escapistm...k-With-Xbox-360

Am I the only one that thinks that his comments about the naval men serving on nuclear subs came off as a bit snide?

[Ravensword]

Weskerr wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

i heard the playstation community has increased by 76 % after E3

yep, right now it don't look to good for the ole sexbox that's for sure. Sony's looking pretty good. 

and M$ tries to calm everyone with PR tricks lol

uk.ign.com/articles/2013/06/12/microsofts-phil-spencer-this-isnt-a-sprint

"There are other means like Gamecom and TGS"..... That's when they're gonna announce big changes if they do. And I think they will. All they gotta do is not require online, not block used games and I think they'll be competitive. They're sweating it. Unless they know they're gonna change some things. I think they have to. If they stay the same, they're done. And done. 

From my perspective, even if they do end up giving in to angry consumers and drop the online requirement, the required kinect, and the used-game policy, I have built up enough resentment at their arrogance and audacity to never purchase the xbox1 from them despite any concessions they make. You don't **** with customers like this.

Yes. Microsoft was attempting to dictate the way the market should work instead of allowing consumers to exercise their power to influence the market.

[Weskerr]

Arcadian Legend wrote...

Well, don't know if this is old or not but MS Exec Don Mattrick says offline gamers should just stick to Xbox 360.

http://www.escapistm...k-With-Xbox-360

How intellectually dishonest can you get? Sure, the xbox360 has no online requirement, but Don, what about the part about new games not being released for the xbox360 anymore? And what about the improved performance and graphics of the xbox1 over the xbox360?

This guy is a shmuck.

[ShepnTali]

^ The guy telling offliners to play a 360 also said "If you're backwards compatible, you're really backwards."


Out of touch with what people like, and pushing things on people they don't ask for.