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#2601
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What is Microsoft playing at? No one can be this dumb. It's like they don't want the BetamaXbox to sell. I'm beginning to believe that Microsoft doesn't wanna be in the console market any longer—it's not like they need to in order to survive as a company—so they're deliberately sabotaging their own product. I know that makes no sense, but god knows what the hell they were thinking and still are thinking.

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ShepnTali wrote...

^ The guy telling offliners to play a 360 also said "If you're backwards compatible, you're really backwards."


Out of touch with what people like, and pushing things on people they don't ask for.


Microsoft suite: "What do you mean people don't have giant living rooms?"

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i heard M$ won't even bother launching Xbone on japan this gen

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it seems they just want a cashcow with the xbox 1. They just want it out the door and making them money instead of focusing on a product people want.

U know that feeling when u just wanna complete something for the sake of finishing it and end up half-assing it by doing so?
I suspect this was the mindset behind this console.

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IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

i heard M$ won't even bother launching Xbone on japan this gen


Given the 360's relatively poor performance in Japan, I can understand taking focus of that market. 

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Homebound wrote...

it seems they just want a cashcow with the xbox 1. They just want it out the door and making them money instead of focusing on a product people want.

U know that feeling when u just wanna complete something for the sake of finishing it and end up half-assing it by doing so?
I suspect this was the mindset behind this console.


I know what you mean, but releasing a console is serious business too regardless of how fast you wanna get it finished. They half-assed the hell out of the console.

This can only happen b/c Microsoft didn't really care about the console. Microsoft would've done well if it hadn's added all the DRM and always online crap, but instead chose to shoot themselves in the foot.

Another reason could be hubris. They thought that people would actually buy a console that doesn't allow you to play used games, lend your games to friends, requires a constant Internet connection, DRM, and spys on you simply b/c of the brand.

It also seemed like Microsoft was trying to go after the non-gamer crowd as well. Much of the reveal was spent on how you can watch TV, sport, use the Kinect as an overpriced remote control, social networking, etc. 

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Well MS can still change their policies, but it would have to be a complete overhaul of what they stated earlier and it would show that they were wrong for apllying such policies and furthermore it would show that they wouldn't have dropped those policies if it wasn't for sony dropping the bomb on them...

I think at this point the folks over at MS have to do SOMETHING to stop the bleeding....the xbox1 will still sell, but it lost alot of existing customers with sony's bombshell in regards to it's policies...

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I'm just going to leave this here, because it speaks to just how dumb Microsoft is thinking these days.

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jesuno wrote...

I'm just going to leave this here, because it speaks to just how dumb Microsoft is thinking these days.


How do you get so bad at PR? It's mental. They are even making stuff that would be kind of a good idea sound terrible.

Modifié par Druss99, 12 juin 2013 - 12:51 .


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Druss99 wrote...

jesuno wrote...

I'm just going to leave this here, because it speaks to just how dumb Microsoft is thinking these days.


How do you get so bad at PR? It's mental. They are even making stuff that would be kind of a good idea sound terrible.


Honestly, it reminds me of how bad Sony was last gen with the "can't afford a 599 console, then just get a second job."

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jesuno wrote...

Druss99 wrote...

jesuno wrote...

I'm just going to leave this here, because it speaks to just how dumb Microsoft is thinking these days.


How do you get so bad at PR? It's mental. They are even making stuff that would be kind of a good idea sound terrible.


Honestly, it reminds me of how bad Sony was last gen with the "can't afford a 599 console, then just get a second job."


Didn't Phil Harrison work for Sony back then too? Or Phil Spencer? All those execs are the same to me, they are just there talking instead of showing me goddamn games.

Modifié par Druss99, 12 juin 2013 - 01:39 .


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jesuno wrote...

I'm just going to leave this here, because it speaks to just how dumb Microsoft is thinking these days.


Since Don said that, does Microsoft seriously want their sales to drop? Because the sales of the Xbox 360 were as hig as they were because they catered to everyone. Now they are limiting themselves to only those who have a stable internet connection. They are disregarding and insulting the 20% of Americans who do not have internet access, and in the long run probably, 60% of the entire world.

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Ok, everything next Xbox promises to be has actually made me seriously consider buying PS3 and PS4 both,solely for the sake of rooting for lesser evil. I still see ahbsolutely no reason to play my video games with console but  desire to produce some sort of weak consumer's fuk you to way of MS is in increase!

Modifié par LTD, 12 juin 2013 - 02:53 .


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 relax people,it's called innovation

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In similar way opportunities opening up in eyes of an inmate upon soap getting dropped by another is an innovation

Modifié par LTD, 12 juin 2013 - 03:11 .


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If you're an xbox fan that will be making the switch to PS4 this gen like me, this will help you in your endeavors.

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Modifié par Foxhound2121, 12 juin 2013 - 03:19 .


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NeonFlux117 wrote...

I was talking to some friends today who aren't bias fanboys- owners of both consoles and pc's. And they said that all Microsoft has to is- not restrict used games, not always online (well, it's pretty much always online, needs internet every 24 hours), and a kinect-less model priced at or around 450 bucks.

I think these are reasonable things that microsoft should consider. Microsoft will not go down without a fight, and the raging fan-boysism of the internet is just a wh*re of the moment complex.

It ain't over. Not by a long shot. Microsoft still has exclusive content and still has halo. Their still very, very much alive.


The problem with the X1 for me is the Kinect issue.  Unfortunately, it seems highly integrated into the system, so dumping it is probably not possible at this point.  Without Kinect, I'm sure Microsoft could price the X1 at or even below the PS4 price with little difficulty.  Which really is what they need to do.

What they've done is a lose-lose for them.

The X1 is too expensive to be a blu-ray player and tv controller.
The X1 is too expensive for what you get in the gaming department.

Unfortunately for them, people are going to buy it mostly based on the latter, with the other stuff as just an added bonus.  But when that bonus costs $100 more and is at the expense of gameplay, why would you?

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If you're an xbox fan that will be making the switch to PS4 this gen like me, this will help you in your endeavors.

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Wait...I can use my 360 controller on the PS3???  Awesome.

Are there any issues with this?

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After 1 or 2 weeks you got the grip out of the Dualshock, trust me I've been there.
No need for any adapters etc.

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I can't escape the feeling microsoft is trolling us

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There are so many things wrong with the XBone that I would have to question the sanity of someone that is excited to buy this console, and this is not coming from a Sony Corporate schiller mindset. The thing is so ridiculously anti-consumer it makes my skin crawl. What privileges do you get for paying for gold now? The right to watch Netflix and have your console bricked if your internet goes out?

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Super Saiyajin wrote...

After 1 or 2 weeks you got the grip out of the Dualshock, trust me I've been there.
No need for any adapters etc.


Dualshock is way too tiny, I've never grown accustomed to it.

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Degs29 wrote...

Foxhound2121 wrote...

If you're an xbox fan that will be making the switch to PS4 this gen like me, this will help you in your endeavors.

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Wait...I can use my 360 controller on the PS3???  Awesome.

Are there any issues with this?

I have one of these (or a similar model). The only "issue" I have is that I can't wake up the PS3 with the Xbox controller center button. I have to use the center button of a PS3 controller but I can use the Xbox controller from that point with no problems. Works like a dream!

You're still limited by the PS3 trigger scheme unless the individual game lets you invert them.

#2624
IntelligentME3Fanboy

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why use xbox controller on playstation lol they're the same

#2625
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The controllers are DEFINITELY not the same. Totally different feel.

I much prefer the 360's controller to the dual shock, and I used dual shock for years.

If there's one thing X1 will always have on PS4, in my opinion its the controller. Assuming the new controllers feel the same as their predecessors.