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[Bekkael]

BouncyFrag wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

SNAKEATEN wrote...

Oh dear Lord, this article made me want to punch a hole in my monitor...

Throwing that we without the E up. I'm good.

It supports TX. I'm all good then!
https://encrypted-tb...gNglNx_10cjeAnQ

Ah Hahahahhahaha!!!! And here I thought they couldn't top their 21 countries launch thing.

I went by my local Gamestop earlier as I was curious how the pre-orders were looking for both systems, and was told they have 50 PS4 pre-orders compared to 30 X1s. So...maybe Microsoft will still sell this new console fairly well. I mentioned a few reasons why I wasn't going to buy a new console from MS and the salesdude nearly bit my head off and was aggresively spouting "All Hail Microsoft!" in everything he said (plus alot of his criticisms of PS4 weren't even true!). Not really cool for a salesperson to be more gung-ho for one product than another, especially when your customer has told you they prefer another. Whatever. I pre-ordered from amazon anyway. *shrug*

[C9316]

Bekkael wrote...

BouncyFrag wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

SNAKEATEN wrote...

Oh dear Lord, this article made me want to punch a hole in my monitor...

Throwing that we without the E up. I'm good.

It supports TX. I'm all good then!
https://encrypted-tb...gNglNx_10cjeAnQ

Ah Hahahahhahaha!!!! And here I thought they couldn't top their 21 countries launch thing.

I went by my local Gamestop earlier as I was curious how the pre-orders were looking for both systems, and was told they have 50 PS4 pre-orders compared to 30 X1s. So...maybe Microsoft will still sell this new console fairly well. I mentioned a few reasons why I wasn't going to buy a new console from MS and the salesdude nearly bit my head off and was aggresively spouting "All Hail Microsoft!" in everything he said (plus alot of his criticisms of PS4 weren't even true!). Not really cool for a salesperson to be more gung-ho for one product than another, especially when your customer has told you they prefer another. Whatever. I pre-ordered from amazon anyway. *shrug*

Silly Cyber mom! That salesperson was obviously "All in one"
http://youtu.be/sWcKtJj5_oY?t=1m52s

[Bekkael]

C9316 wrote...

Silly Cyber mom! That salesperson was obviously "All in one"
http://youtu.be/sWcKtJj5_oY?t=1m52s

That was pretty good, I hadn't seen that one before.

[In Exile]

HiddenInWar wrote...

Found this on tumblr, apparently it's the new ToS on the Xbox One/X360. And can be found on the Xbox's website under section 11, this exact text. 

I don't follow, what's the issue? 

[Jerrybnsn]

Xbox live connection isn't always reliable. Once in awhile I go through periods of a couple of weeks were sometimes it'll connect, sometimes it won't. If I buy an Xbone where I have to check on line first to play then I will go through periods of a couple of weeks were, sometime I can play games, sometimes I can't.

Originally I felt I might get both, but I'm going to just skip the Xbone completely because of its restrictions.

Modifié par Jerrybnsn, 16 juin 2013 - 06:56 .

[NeonFlux117]

Filament wrote...

jesuno wrote...

Angry Joe scored an interview with Major Nelson, and as you can expect from a youtube personality as opposed to journalistPR, he was a little rough but he asked tough questions and called the XB1's policies DRM to his face. The second video is him kind back seat drivering himself about how he conducted the interview, but does include some new tidbits of XB1's policies for those not aware. Enjoy.

Interview with Major Nelson
Thoughts of the Interview

lol "will you come to the future with me"

It's troubling that he can't answer the concern directly, instead all he seems to want to do is shift the framing onto the potential benefits of an always-online console and sweep the concern under a rug, rather than take meaningful steps to rectify the problem like adding a genuine offline mode. It's not like MS wouldn't still be able to implement their "vision" since most people wouldn't actually use that mode, but for the people who need it, or the ones who think they might need it, it's kind of critical, so I think MS would be really stupid not to capitulate here.

It's as if Microsoft doesnt know what's going on with their own console. I just can't fathom this. It's terrible and incompetent to the higest degree. They should just star over. Push back the release. And release a non-kinect model for 400 bucks. No DRM. Used games allowed. And Launch with Titanfall and a GTA 5 next gen bundle. They need to start all over. It's their only chance. Cause right now- if amazon polls and preorder numbers are correct, Xbox 1 is getting outsold by PS4 9-1. That's amazing. And amazingly validates all the uproar and disconnect about Xbox 1. 

[Dave of Canada]

My local retailer always told me the 360 outsold the PS3 4:1 at that store, they'd always do huge 360 events and throw the PS3 users at the wayside (which was obvious with 360 exclusives having huge events but PS3 being relegated to grab your game and get out).

Decided to ask how preorders were going and he told me it's 1:1. Impressive, I didn't expect that much Xbox preorders.

[ShepnTali]

Filament wrote...

jesuno wrote...

Angry Joe scored an interview with Major Nelson, and as you can expect from a youtube personality as opposed to journalistPR, he was a little rough but he asked tough questions and called the XB1's policies DRM to his face. The second video is him kind back seat drivering himself about how he conducted the interview, but does include some new tidbits of XB1's policies for those not aware. Enjoy.

Interview with Major Nelson
Thoughts of the Interview

lol "will you come to the future with me"

It's troubling that he can't answer the concern directly, instead all he seems to want to do is shift the framing onto the potential benefits of an always-online console and sweep the concern under a rug, rather than take meaningful steps to rectify the problem like adding a genuine offline mode. It's not like MS wouldn't still be able to implement their "vision" since most people wouldn't actually use that mode, but for the people who need it, or the ones who think they might need it, it's kind of critical, so I think MS would be really stupid not to capitulate here.

Yes, "This is the future", and a whole lot of dancing on the issue.

Modifié par ShepnTali, 16 juin 2013 - 02:19 .

[Overdosing]

Bekkael wrote...

I went by my local Gamestop earlier as I was curious how the pre-orders were looking for both systems, and was told they have 50 PS4 pre-orders compared to 30 X1s. So...maybe Microsoft will still sell this new console fairly well. I mentioned a few reasons why I wasn't going to buy a new console from MS and the salesdude nearly bit my head off and was aggresively spouting "All Hail Microsoft!" in everything he said (plus alot of his criticisms of PS4 weren't even true!). Not really cool for a salesperson to be more gung-ho for one product than another, especially when your customer has told you they prefer another. Whatever. I pre-ordered from amazon anyway. *shrug*

I will feel no pity for whoever gets the Xbox One and has issues over it soon after. 

[Chromie]

Saw this over at Neogaf.

Xbone Engineerwrote...

“The goal is to move to digital downloads, but Gamestop, Walmart, Target, Amazon are KIND OF ****ING ENTRENCHED in the industry. They have a lot of power, and the shift has to be gradual. Long term goal is steam for consoles. [...] If you always want to stay with what you have, then keep current consoles, or a PS4. We’re TRYING to move the industry forwards towards digital distribution… it’sa bumpy road..”

and…

“The thing is we suck at telling the story. The whole point of the DRM switch from disc based to cloud based is to kill disc swapping, scratched discs, bringing discs to friends house, trade-ins for **** value with nothign going back to developers, and high game costs. If you want games cheaper then 59.99, you have to limit used games somehow. Steam’s model requires a limited used game model.

“The DRM is really really similar to steam… You can login anywhere and play your games, anyone in your house can play with the family xbox. The only diff is steam you have to sign in before playing, and Xbox does it automatically at night for you (once per 24 hours). It’s a long tail strategy, just like steam. Steam had it’s growing pains at the beginning with all it’s drm **** as well. [...] For digital downloads steam had no real competition at the time, they were competing against boxed sales. At the time people were pretty irate about steam, (on 4chan too…) It was only once they had a digital marketplace with DRM that was locked down to prevent sharing that they could do super discounted ****.”

and also…

“Everyone and their mother complains about how gamestop ****s them on their trade ins, getting 5$ for their used games. We come in trying to find a way to take money out of gamestop, and put some in developers and get you possibly cheaper games and everyone ****es at MS. Well, if you want the ****ing from Gamestop, go play PS4.”

[spirosz]

I don't buy used games.

[ShepnTali]

Microsoft employee trying to sway people at the WiiU's best buy event


So we have video now. Guy in line says he doesn't want spybox in his home. Microsoft guy says throw a blanket over it lol.

[BouncyFrag]

ShepnTali wrote...

Microsoft employee trying to sway people at the WiiU's best buy event


So we have video now. Guy in line says he doesn't want spybox in his home. Microsoft guy says throw a blanket over it lol.

Now that is just all sorts of awkward. I kinda feel bad for the MS guy who I'm sure didn't want to be their either and was just doing what his bosses wanted.

[BouncyFrag]

So, when will the new X1 controller be available for PC use?

[Overdosing]

BouncyFrag wrote...

ShepnTali wrote...

Microsoft employee trying to sway people at the WiiU's best buy event


So we have video now. Guy in line says he doesn't want spybox in his home. Microsoft guy says throw a blanket over it lol.

Now that is just all sorts of awkward. I kinda feel bad for the MS guy who I'm sure didn't want to be their either and was just doing what his bosses wanted.

Agreed. It's shameful that they had to send this guy, and most likely others, to certain Best Buys for them to embarrass themselves and convince people to buy this damned thing.

[Salamander Soup]

News flash to Xbone: PlayStation 4 has optional day one digital.

Zing!

[BrookerT]

 In case anyone wondered, I have a list of all games coming to the Xbox One. As this was the X1 thread I though it should go here :happy::

• Forza Motorsport 5 (Turn 10 Studios) - LE
• Ryse (Crytek) - LE
• Halo 5 (343) - E
• Killer Instinct 3 (Double Helix) -LE
• TitanFall (Respawn Entertainment) - (ME)
• Dead Rising 3 (Capcom Vancouver) - LE
• Crimson Dragon (Grounding Inc) - E
• Kinect Sports Rivals (Rare) - LE
• Project Spark (no idea) - (ME)
• Quantum Break (Remedy Entertainment) - E
• Minecraft: Xbox One Edition (4J Studios/Mojang) - E
• Battlefield 4 (DICE) - L
• Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag (Ubisoft)Watch Dogs (Ubisoft) - L
• Final Fantasy XV (Square Enix)
• Kingdom Hearts 3 (Square Enix)
• Destiny (Bungie)
• Madden 25 (EA)
• FIFA 2014 (EA Sports)
• Need for Speed Rivals (Ghost)
• Dragon Age 3: Inquisition (BioWare)
• Cyberpunk 2077 (CD Projekt RED)
• The Witcher 3 (CD Projekt RED)
• Sunset Overdrive (Insomniac Games)- E
• Thief (Eidos Montreal)
• Fortnite (Epic Games)
• Sniper Elite 3 (Rebellion/505)
• The Evil Within (Tango/Bethesda)
• Dying Light (Techland)
• Plants Vs Zombies: Garden Warfare (No idea which studio is making this sorry)
• Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain (Kojima Productions)
• Pro Evolution Soccer 2014 (Konami)
• Tom Clancy's The Division (Ubisoft)
• Call of Duty: Ghosts (Activision)
• D4 (TBA) - E
• LocoCycle (Twisted Pixel) - LE
• Below (Capybara Games) - E

L       - Launch Title
E       - Exclusive to Xbox One
(ME)  - Microsoft Exclusive eg. PC, Xbox 360 & Xbox One

Let me know if there are any mistakes!

Modifié par BrookerT, 16 juin 2013 - 07:28 .

[BrookerT]

Personally I think Quantum Break sounds like a really cool concept, and Below looks beautiful. Also for Sunset Overdrive, please don't do a FUSE".

Also, anyone know who is making Plants Vs Zombies Garden Warfare? I can't find it anywhere.

[RepHope]

I'm pretty sure that someone said that NeoGaf post was fake. It reads more like a fanboy defending his choice than a real engineer.

[BouncyFrag]

On the games front the X1 looks really solid. This could ensure good sales and zero chance of MS changing their tune with drm, used games, etc.

[BrookerT]

Oh um, having read this thread now, probably didn't need to put the list here. Not that sort of thread, awkward.

[jesuno]

spirosz wrote...

I don't buy used games.

That doesn't matter, because you do not own your games, as apparent by the banning policy.