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[Overdosing]

Ghost Lightning wrote...

I'm hoping Sony will retaliate by re-introducing free online multiplayer on PSN. Seems like an incredible long shot, but that would be awesome.

I doubt that Sony would do that, since they've given us so many good things for the PS4 anyway. They would have to go in depth and do even more interesting things, like free DLC for certain games, or lowering the pricing for its games. And that, they are not doing.

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

so..
PS4=536 $
Xbone=670 $

I'll pass M$.I'll get a PS4 when the price drops a bit

[Overdosing]

Microsoft will still be in some sort of crisis. They already did their insulting and damage, and considerably, this is a too, too, too late time to be un****ing themselves. It all comes down to the consumer's gut feeling.

[OdanUrr]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

so..
PS4=536 $
Xbone=670 $

I'll pass M$.I'll get a PS4 when the price drops a bit

The problem Microsoft now faces is trying to sell Kinect 2.0. Considering how its predecessor fared they're in a tough spot.

[Ryzaki]

Bekkael wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

Here we go.

From Don Mattrick:

You told us how much you loved the flexibility you have today with games delivered on disc. The ability to lend, share, and resell these games at your discretion is of incredible importance to you. Also important to you is the freedom to play offline, for any length of time, anywhere in the world.

Quoting for new page.

Wow.

I think their pre-orders are going to be very vigorous now.

I guess they found some sense and decided not to hand the gen over to Sony on a silver platter after all.

[TheBlackBaron]

MerinTB wrote...

Gizmodo is conflating.  I'm not a console gamer.  I, too, want discs to go the way of the 8 track.  But Xbox One was doing it the wrong way.

They had to be all in.  And they didn't.  They included a blu-ray drive.  They would still sell games on discs.  Doing THAT, they had to support the people who wanted to play on, share, and sell their discs.

I think the blu-ray drive is still important if you're trying to set the box up as a home entertainment system and not just as a game console - even HTPCs still usually have a slim drive in them. Other than that I agree with this.

[Ghost Lightning]

Overdosing wrote...

Ghost Lightning wrote...

I'm hoping Sony will retaliate by re-introducing free online multiplayer on PSN. Seems like an incredible long shot, but that would be awesome.

I doubt that Sony would do that, since they've given us so many good things for the PS4 anyway. They would have to go in depth and do even more interesting things, like free DLC for certain games, or lowering the pricing for its games. And that, they are not doing.

Well they could push the PS+ features more aggresively. They offer so much free stuff that it's actually too much unless you have an upgraded HDD. 

But yeah, now that both consoles are on a much more equal playing field (barring price and spec) it means we the consumers may be able to expect some nice incentives from both camps.

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

PS4 will still probably dominate everywhere outside US

[MerinTB]

Bekkael wrote...

Emergency Jimquisition on Xbox One no DRM.

Bloody awesome.

[Ravensword]

AresKeith wrote...

Overdosing wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Overdosing wrote...

You know what would be better for Microsoft to change? The name.

But it's the Xbox One 80 now 

Isn't that just a famous headline now? It would also still wouldn't make sense to change it to that. I prefered what the rumors said: the Xbox 720, particularly, or the Xbox Durango, or anything else than Xbox (a number less than 360, except 3).

Xbox Infinity would've the best name choice

XBox Infinity: Infinitely worse. Now only $999.

Modifié par Ravensword, 19 juin 2013 - 10:46 .

[Ghost Lightning]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

PS4 will still probably dominate everywhere outside US

Well considering that it's only available in 20 countries other than the US, I'm inclined to agree (especially seeing as how Japan is not one of those 20 countries).

[MerinTB]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

MerinTB wrote...
Gizmodo is conflating.  I'm not a console gamer.  I, too, want discs to go the way of the 8 track.  But Xbox One was doing it the wrong way.

They had to be all in.  And they didn't.  They included a blu-ray drive.  They would still sell games on discs.  Doing THAT, they had to support the people who wanted to play on, share, and sell their discs.

I think the blu-ray drive is still important if you're trying to set the box up as a home entertainment system and not just as a game console - even HTPCs still usually have a slim drive in them. Other than that I agree with this.

Not if going all-in on digital was their goal, the future.

Movies, tv, etc - all DIGITAL, NO DISCS.  You want to play your blu-ray collection, your dvd's, etc?  Use your existing players.

No blu-ray drive?  Shave close to $100 off the system cost, right?

It might be a TAD early for a game console to actually do this, but if MS had, THEN they would have been legitimate in claiming they were looking completely at the future -
the needing internet connections, the checking in, how they do sharing, etc... all that would have been in an absolutely different light.  The light that some journalists are trying to see it in.

I am a HUGE advocate of moving to digital, of cutting out middle men (like retail stores) as much as possible.  I would likely have been singing their praises had they made the one extra step of cutting out the drive.

But the drive was there.  And that made EVERYTHING DIFFERENT.

[Sebby]

I doubt these DRM practices would have impacted their sales too much if they kept them. You still have plenty who buy into disc-locked content and other such BS years after their introduction after all.

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

yes M$ go full digital.
Even though i read somewhere that xbox live gold has only 47 million subscribers.

[Overdosing]

Ravensword wrote...

XBox Infinity: Infinitely worse. Now only $999.

Now only $∞ (infinity dollars).

Wait...that means EA isn't trolling us with its removal of online passes for consoles!

Modifié par Overdosing, 19 juin 2013 - 10:51 .

[Overdosing]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

PS4 will still probably dominate everywhere outside US

I don't think in Saudi Arabia, since evidently, they liked the Xbox One even with all of the DRM **** on it.

[Fawx9]

MerinTB wrote...

TheBlackBaron wrote...

MerinTB wrote...
Gizmodo is conflating.  I'm not a console gamer.  I, too, want discs to go the way of the 8 track.  But Xbox One was doing it the wrong way.

They had to be all in.  And they didn't.  They included a blu-ray drive.  They would still sell games on discs.  Doing THAT, they had to support the people who wanted to play on, share, and sell their discs.

I think the blu-ray drive is still important if you're trying to set the box up as a home entertainment system and not just as a game console - even HTPCs still usually have a slim drive in them. Other than that I agree with this.

Not if going all-in on digital was their goal, the future.

Movies, tv, etc - all DIGITAL, NO DISCS.  You want to play your blu-ray collection, your dvd's, etc?  Use your existing players.

No blu-ray drive?  Shave close to $100 off the system cost, right?

It might be a TAD early for a game console to actually do this, but if MS had, THEN they would have been legitimate in claiming they were looking completely at the future -
the needing internet connections, the checking in, how they do sharing, etc... all that would have been in an absolutely different light.  The light that some journalists are trying to see it in.

I am a HUGE advocate of moving to digital, of cutting out middle men (like retail stores) as much as possible.  I would likely have been singing their praises had they made the one extra step of cutting out the drive.

But the drive was there.  And that made EVERYTHING DIFFERENT.

That would be an even worse idea.

Not every country let alone province/state has high/unlimited bandwidth caps. There would be even more flak for completly segregating users who buy consoles for the ease of disks, without needing to download gigs worth of data per game.

Their half and half model would have worked, if they could hacve gotten their messaging right and came out with a clear and concise plan for dealing with online/offline & digital/disk. Instead they came out, ****ed up, and now have to play ctach up to Valve/Steam once again when it comes to the digital front.

This was their chance to get ahead of Valve themselves, now they need to pray that Valve time kicks into overdrive with regards to the Steambox.

Modifié par Fawx9, 19 juin 2013 - 10:56 .

[RobRam10]

uhh dunno if this was mention but Microsoft is planning to remove the ****ty DRM plans. Huzzah for them listening our wallets rather than the customers.

Modifié par RobRam10, 19 juin 2013 - 10:59 .

[BouncyFrag]

Francis reacts!!

*note francis is a character and alter ego*

[Kaiser Shepard]

While this does make the console a viable personal purchase again, I do still fully believe that the masses wouldn't have given a damn about the once a day check-in anyway. Those who would've traded in/bought their used games at the likes of Gamestop would've still be able to do so, and the ability to digitally share your game/license with up to 10 friends from across the world would've outweighed any concerns to the average, already always online consumer.

[Ryzaki]

Ghost Lightning wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

PS4 will still probably dominate everywhere outside US

Well considering that it's only available in 20 countries other than the US, I'm inclined to agree (especially seeing as how Japan is not one of those 20 countries).

didn't they change that too? Without the need for constant servers they should be able to launch everywhere.

[ObserverStatus]

Wait, they reversed it? They actually reversed it?