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[ShepnTali]

Salamander Soup wrote...

I'm still switching to PS4 over the Xbox One. Better specs, better price, no Skykinect.

But I'm stunned Microsoft did a big 180 and I respect the fact they made these changes. Not that they had much choice, based upon the reaction of consumer demand. With this action, Microsoft ensured the Xbox One has a much, much brighter future.

Win for gaming confirmed.

No, they didn't have much choice. Hardly worthy of praise. But regardless. A win for gamers. For now. Until they decide to patch all that garbage back in five years from now, in the warming up for next, next gen.

[Lenimph]

And they have actual real exclusives other then Halo ...

Now they would really win me over if they suddenly announced it would play all my old ps2 games. I would preorder one. *dreaming big*

[mrs_anomaly]

MegaSovereign wrote...

wolfhowwl wrote...

someguy1231 wrote...

Salamander Soup wrote...

I'm still switching to PS4 over the Xbox One. Better specs, better price, no Skykinect.

But I'm stunned Microsoft did a big 180 and I respect the fact they made these changes. Not that they had much choice, based upon the reaction of consumer demand. With this action, Microsoft ensured the Xbox One has a much, much brighter future.

Win for gaming confirmed.

Indeed. Whether you're buying an X1 or not, MS has ensured it'll be a much more viable competitor to the PS4. Competition is always good for the video game industry, and I was concerned Sony might become arrogant and overconfident if they overly dominated the next gen.

Sony is in trouble. I would hope all the arrogance and overconfidence has been beat out of them over the last couple years.

Uh, I don't think Sony is in trouble. They're still considerably cheaper than their competitor and appeal more to the traditional gamers.

Traditional gamers? What's a traditional gamer? 
I've been gaming since I was a little kid and I'm 38 and I prefer XBOX. I'm still considering getting both- but all of my friends and my old games are XBOX (not including Steam and Origin). 
I don't agree that Sony is in trouble with this turnaround on the DRM policy for the XB1 either- but it certainly will relieve a lot of us that considered several of the new facets of the XB1 a dealbreaker. 

[MegaSovereign]

I don't consider Kinect to be traditional.

[ShepnTali]

I was more concerned it would be tougher to get a PS4 with high demand. This should atleast narrow it a bit.

[wolfhowwl]

MegaSovereign wrote...

wolfhowwl wrote...

someguy1231 wrote...

Salamander Soup wrote...

I'm still switching to PS4 over the Xbox One. Better specs, better price, no Skykinect.

But I'm stunned Microsoft did a big 180 and I respect the fact they made these changes. Not that they had much choice, based upon the reaction of consumer demand. With this action, Microsoft ensured the Xbox One has a much, much brighter future.

Win for gaming confirmed.

Indeed. Whether you're buying an X1 or not, MS has ensured it'll be a much more viable competitor to the PS4. Competition is always good for the video game industry, and I was concerned Sony might become arrogant and overconfident if they overly dominated the next gen.

Sony is in trouble. I would hope all the arrogance and overconfidence has been beat out of them over the last couple years.

Uh, I don't think Sony is in trouble. They're still considerably cheaper than their competitor and appeal more to the traditional gamers.

I was referring to the Sony Corporation as a whole, not the PS4. After their struggles over the last decade I would expect them to have learned some humility and not get overconfident.

[Lenimph]

Essentially motion gaming isn't considered traditional gaming from what I understand. Kinect+XboxJuan falls under this. By some backwards train of thought considering "motion" gaming was/is part of the arcade scene.

Modifié par Lenimph, 20 juin 2013 - 03:07 .

[Overdosing]

Lenimph wrote...

Essentially non-motion gaming isn't considered traditional gaming from what I understand. Kinect+XboxJuan falls under this. By some backwards train of thought considering "motion" gaming was/is part of the arcade scene.

Here.

Modifié par Overdosing, 20 juin 2013 - 02:58 .

[Weskerr]

ShepnTali wrote...

Salamander Soup wrote...

I'm still switching to PS4 over the Xbox One. Better specs, better price, no Skykinect.

But I'm stunned Microsoft did a big 180 and I respect the fact they made these changes. Not that they had much choice, based upon the reaction of consumer demand. With this action, Microsoft ensured the Xbox One has a much, much brighter future.

Win for gaming confirmed.

No, they didn't have much choice. Hardly worthy of praise. But regardless. A win for gamers. For now. Until they decide to patch all that garbage back in five years from now, in the warming up for next, next gen.

I agree with you. This is not worthy of praise. They tried to trample on consumer rights and paid for it. However, I doubt they'll try to patch it in later or even try this again with the next-next generation.

Modifié par Weskerr, 20 juin 2013 - 03:09 .

[MarchWaltz]

I'm getting PS4 whenever they have a metal gear 5 version of it with some super bundle or something.

I'll MAYBE get xbone when it is extremely cheap. Maybe.

Probably not.

PC/PS4.

[AshedMan]

Filament wrote...
...Maybe. I'm still skeptical about anything ever materializing out of that.

The future is now.  Your PC is your Steam Box.  

[Ryzaki]

ShepnTali wrote...

Salamander Soup wrote...

I'm still switching to PS4 over the Xbox One. Better specs, better price, no Skykinect.

But I'm stunned Microsoft did a big 180 and I respect the fact they made these changes. Not that they had much choice, based upon the reaction of consumer demand. With this action, Microsoft ensured the Xbox One has a much, much brighter future.

Win for gaming confirmed.

No, they didn't have much choice. Hardly worthy of praise. But regardless. A win for gamers. For now. Until they decide to patch all that garbage back in five years from now, in the warming up for next, next gen.

Given the high likelihood of that I probably won't get an Xbone til near the end of it's lifecycle.

Fool me once...

[Some Geth]

"Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray."



Oh and

Modifié par Some Geth, 20 juin 2013 - 04:18 .

[Blind2Society]

Some Geth wrote...

Bwahahahahaha! MJ was such a dick in that interview.

Also

"While we believe that the majority of people will play games online and
access the cloud for both games and entertainment, we will give
consumers the choice of both physical and digital content."

I'm glad Microgreed realised that trying to shove crap down our throat wasn't the right way to go about it, even if they sound like a little brat of a child who just realised there is no way they are going to win an argument.

Modifié par Blind2Society, 20 juin 2013 - 04:24 .

[Armass81]

Too late MS, showed your true colors already.

I wont pay them one cent on this.

Modifié par Armass81, 20 juin 2013 - 04:29 .

[MerinTB]

In Exile wrote...

MerinTB wrote...
Movies and their availability, digitally, is not an issue.  Streaming might be, but not owning.  Again, Amazon.

Unless you don't live in the US. A bunch of these services are not as well stocked or readily available in other countries. So the infrastructure just plain isn't there. 

Netflix is expanding.  Amazon has websites for many countries, though I cannot say for certain if services are different for different countries - if they are, that is due to the laws of those countries, I would guess.

Much of the world actually has BETTER internet than the USA, as far as that goes.

If Microsoft wanted to be the "go go digital" they would partner with Google, Yahoo, some telecoms and cable companies around the world, and get it done.  It would be to ALL their benefits.

Again, if the digital revolution was their cause and not just a tool for them to try and demolish the existing used game market and how readily people just share or give away games.

[MerinTB]

someguy1231 wrote...
Nice to see MS admit they're wrong, but I'm still getting a PS4 for these reasons:
(...)
-PS4 still has more powerful tech
-X1's built-in Kinect still concerns me
-PS4 will offer streaming PS3 titles, of which there are some exclusives I'm interested in (I'm a 360 owner)

Those three, especially the second two, have my interest peaked a bit.  Again, not a console gamer in general - but Heavy Rain, Last of Us, Uncharted, plus the indie game love that PS4 is offering is tempting.

[Salamander Soup]

spirosz wrote...

That's the thing though, I've seen certain people stating that these new changes are a step backwards and is restricting the "advancement" of gaming, or console gaming.

I've seen sparingly few of these as well. And while everyone is obviously entitled to their opinion, they are obviously a minority and for good reason. These people also, in a gigantic chasm of intellectual analysis, fail to recognize that these shifts occur naturally and organically within the market, not on a whim. The market has obviously reacted. And affirmed yet again. progress does not equate to good in everything in life. Often times, "progress" destroys that which was once good.

[MerinTB]

Dave of Canada wrote...

HiddenInWar wrote...
A poll on GameInformer states the question "Interested In The Xbox One Following Microsoft's Reversal?" 

Yes - 51.6%

No - 48.4%

I don't get why.

To put it plainly -

there are fans of the Xbox, and particularly some Xbox exclusives, who WANTED to want the system but whom, also, either have poor internet or are big renters / used game buyers / buy-and-sell gamers.

That swath just got given the green light.  They are the ones who either like, are okay with, or indifferent to the Kinect.  They might actually want the "One box to rule them all" concept and yet be averse to PC's.

You may have continuing reasons to not be swayed, but others have been.  Different people had different problems, but the biggest uproar was the DRM.  That has been largely scaled back to, more or less, what we have now.  So, for the biggest concern for the most people, problem has been solved.

[Salamander Soup]

I own a 360, and I am getting PS4 next gen. Have it preordered. I'm also psyched, because the ps4 looks fantastic. Too late for my money, they lost me as a customer this generation. I do respect Microsoft finally being sane and switching. I will see what the next generation after this one holds.