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[Ryzaki]

To busy with those dollar signs in their eyes.

I really hope this doesn't go off successfully. I mean really. They're pretty much turning consoles into ****ty PCs.

[OdanUrr]

Ziegrif wrote...

 Someone prolly already said this but...60$+ console games, a regulated resell price by microsoft according to this article from which retailers will get maybe 10%, no backwards compatability due to new tech, way too much control over games taken away from the one who purchases the games making them budge closer and closer from property to a service.

... This is going to screw over retailers and consumers alike. What the hell is Microsoft thinking?

I wouldn't lay all the blame on Microsoft. Publishers are in on it as well.

[Ziegrif]

OdanUrr wrote...
I wouldn't lay all the blame on Microsoft. Publishers are in on it as well.

Well it needs to be stopped.
One way or another.
Pitchfork and torch at the ready.
Doesn't matter which side yer on PC or Console.
It's bad for everyone.

[Ryzaki]

OdanUrr wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

 Someone prolly already said this but...60$+ console games, a regulated resell price by microsoft according to this article from which retailers will get maybe 10%, no backwards compatability due to new tech, way too much control over games taken away from the one who purchases the games making them budge closer and closer from property to a service.

... This is going to screw over retailers and consumers alike. What the hell is Microsoft thinking?

I wouldn't lay all the blame on Microsoft. Publishers are in on it as well.

Sad thing is if publishers didn't feel the need to have such ridculous budgets that they need 5 million sales to break even used games wouldn't be such an issue. Especially when it's on crap that's unnecessary (Famous actors for VA, ZOMG Super graphicss!!! (this can easily be sidestepped with a decent artstyle you don't need all that crap if the artstyle is nice) and more crap I'm sure I forgot.

*shakes head*

It's like trying to save a sinking ship by taping the bottom. That's not gonna help for very long.

[Mendelevosa]

If Microsoft called it the Xbox 720, that would imply that the company keeps going in circles with no hope of getting anywhere in life, rather than moving forward in innovation.

Oh wait....

Maybe that isn't such an unfitting name for their console afterall...

Modifié par Mendelevosa, 24 mai 2013 - 04:46 .

[Ryzaki]

Jayne126 wrote...

With their absolutely ridiculous sale expectations and attitude, which ironically was the same Sony once had, I really hope that it bites them in the ass.

I can't believe they haven't learned anything from their competition.

I know! It's like they had a checklist of everything Sony did wrong with the PS3 and ticked each option off while adding some more from the Gamers' Do Not Want list.

[OdanUrr]

Mendelevosa wrote...

If Microsoft called it the Xbox 720, that would imply that the company keeps going in circles with no hope of getting anywhere in life, rather than moving forward in innovation.

Oh wait....

Infinity would have been better, just imagine:

"Xbox Infinity. Because stupidity knows no bounds."

[ObserverStatus]

Ziegrif wrote...
 Someone prolly already said this but...60$+ console games, a regulated resell price by microsoft according to this article from which retailers will get maybe 10%, no backwards compatability due to new tech, way too much control over games taken away from the one who purchases the games making them budge closer and closer from property to a service.
... This is going to screw over retailers and consumers alike. What the hell is Microsoft thinking?

I'm starting to think that someone making high level decisions at Microsoft must be getting bribe money from Sony.

[Ziegrif]

bobobo878 wrote...

I'm starting to think that someone making high level decisions at Microsoft must be getting bribe money from Sony.

If that's true the PR team of Sony are absolute GENIOUSES.

[Lazengan]

ACHIVEMENT UNLOCKED

WATCHED TV

http://www.gamesindu...tv-achievements

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[Lenimph]

.-. are they serious?

wtf...

As if everything wasn't stupid enough already.

[ShepnTali]

Lazengan wrote...

ACHIVEMENT UNLOCKED

WATCHED TV

http://www.gamesindu...tv-achievements

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The couch potato counter to Wii Fit.

[Lazengan]

"Two examples given include doling out achievements for watching a single event like the Super Bowl, or for watching an entire series of a single show."

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-

I can't breathe

oh god

too funny

I'm so grateful to be a PC gamer

Modifié par Lazengan, 24 mai 2013 - 05:38 .

[slimgrin]

Lazengan wrote...

"Two examples given include doling out achievements for watching a single event like the Super Bowl, or for watching an entire series of a single show."

Achievment unlocked: couch potato.


"Television viewing tends to be a passive experience for a viewer, without many opportunities for the viewer to engage or have interactive experiences with the presented content," the application states. "To increase interactive viewing and encourage a user to watch one or more particular items of video content, awards and achievements may be tied to those items of video content."

Modifié par slimgrin, 24 mai 2013 - 05:41 .

[Lazengan]

slimgrin wrote...

Lazengan wrote...

"Two examples given include doling out achievements for watching a single event like the Super Bowl, or for watching an entire series of a single show."

I can't breathe

oh god

too funny

I'm so grateful to be a PC gamer

Achievment unlocked: couch potato.

"The patent application details a variety of possible rewards, including points for a GamerScore-like tally that is viewable by other users, new clothes and props for an avatar, virtual money for a game, or even physical rewards"

sneaky sneaky

giving people the false illusion of gaining something from nothing

[Lazengan]

Jayne126 wrote...

Lazengan wrote...

So, is there also an achievement for turning the TV on?

Probably

just about tells you something about the state of this industry

[MerinTB]

Brockololly wrote...

MerinTB wrote...
What is it that you see the Xbox One adopting from Steam, exactly?

From what info is available, it seems like MS is adopting the same basic model of having all games be tied to an account and downplaying the importance of a disk, just like Steam. You can buy a physical Steamworks game like New Vegas or Skyrim but all the disk is doing is making it so you don't have to download multiple GBs of data to install your game.

But that's not Steam, per se.  That's also Stardock and other digital services.  If you are comparing to "what people let Steam get away with" clearly you must mean something SPECIFIC about Steam, and something BAD that Steam is doing.

And that's not digital purchased games tied to online accounts.  I could sell my phyiscal copy of New Vegas to someone else for the PC and they'd still be able to play it.

Brockololly wrote...
Back in the day, the nice differentiating factors in console gaming's favor were the fact that you could simply stick a disk in and play. No installing, no patching, no online authentication and so forth. That's gone. And then it seems like Xbox One wants to step away even more from the physical media model that console gaming has historically been based on, limiting used game sales or even the ability for  friend to borrow a game or rent a game.

As a PC gamer looking into getting a console, I don't really see any huge reason to go for Xbox One over PS4. The stuff Xbox is doing makes it seem like a very limited and locked down PC- a PC with very few of the benefits of PC gaming.

Why buy a weaker, restricted computer for slightly less cost, right?

But the other BIG benefits for console gaming was loaning games to friends and family AND selling your games.  With those two things effectively killed...

It's why PC gaming shrank amongst many of my friends, when we couldn't loan games easily anymore (you practically had to "pirate" the game with NO-CD / circumvent online activation cracks to do so) and therefore it became less of a communal thing.

You take the easy sharing, giving, selling of the games away, as well as the ease of putting the disc in and playing... and what does the console give you as a benefit anymore?

A controller?  Cause I can use either system's controller on my PC.

[MerinTB]

CronoDragoon wrote...

Blind2Society wrote...

keyboard + mouse > controller

Besides the user's personal preference, that can depend on the game as well. The Witcher 2 was better with a controller than KB&M.

Most PC games let you use a controller, and if they don't it's a simple-to-set-up piece of software to map keys to a controller.

Computer games used to use controllers all the time, back when they were called joysticks!  Flight sims!

[Mendelevosa]

Lazengan wrote...

ACHIVEMENT UNLOCKED

WATCHED TV

http://www.gamesindu...tv-achievements

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Microsoft better go home soon before it dies from drunken stupidity intoxication.

[Lazengan]

MerinTB wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

Blind2Society wrote...

keyboard + mouse > controller

Besides the user's personal preference, that can depend on the game as well. The Witcher 2 was better with a controller than KB&M.

Most PC games let you use a controller, and if they don't it's a simple-to-set-up piece of software to map keys to a controller.

Computer games used to use controllers all the time, back when they were called joysticks!  Flight sims!

Ewww

barring the exception of actual flight simulators, why would any sane person EVER want to use an external controller for a PC game rather than a keyboard

that's just disgusting

[ShepnTali]

You know, this kind of all makes sense. The line between entertainment and games has been blurring for some time now. Games are more and more the equivelant of interactive Hollywood productions. It brings a lot more people into the fold.

[MerinTB]

http://achievements....ng Commercials!

[ObserverStatus]

Lazengan wrote...
ACHIVEMENT UNLOCKED
WATCHED TV
http://www.gamesindu...tv-achievements
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

"Television viewing tends to be a passive experience for a viewer, without many opportunities for the viewer to engage or have interactive experiences with the presented content," the application states. "To increase interactive viewing and encourage a user to watch one or more particular items of video content, awards and achievements may be tied to those items of video content."

WTF? Why shouldn't television viewing be a passive experience? That's TV's appeal! You're not supposed to interact with the TV, you're supposed to interact with the people who may be watching it with you. Microsoft says it wants to change my relationship with my TV, but I like that relationship the way it is.