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#1076
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Ravensword wrote...

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Blind2Society wrote...

How about not having exclusives and instead giving choice back to the gamer?


That hasn't existed for decades, if it ever did. Exclusives are the lifeblood of the manufacturers - there's no way to the PlayStation would have been as successful as it was if it didn't court Square away from the NES and put FFVII only on the PS1 - and they pay handsomely to ensure that. 

-snip-


From what I recall, that was due in no small part to Nintendo's decision to continue using cartridges for the N64 instead of using CDs, which the PS was using two years before the release of the N64.


You're right, that was definitely part of it. Sony put less restrictions on the content they'd allow on games for their system, and CD-ROM's were themselves much less restrictive than cartridges.

Funny thing is, Sony only made the PS1 in the first place because Nintendo backed out of a contract for Sony to manufacture a CD-ROM add-on for the SNES ... which they instead gave to Phillips, and then that deal imploded and led to the creation of the CD-i.

Nintendo probably wants that decision back.  

Eternal Napalm wrote...

All that achievement stuff through tv is lame as hell. Lol really? Oh my goodness, is this console horrible.


I'm starting to think you're a sock puppet for sympathy4saren, and probably following a script somewhere. 

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 26 mai 2013 - 05:33 .


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This scanning stuff is creepy as hell. I can already see herds of teenagers stuffing their sofa with loads of tacos waiting to be rewarded as loyal customers.
This console sounds more and more like it's targeting 15 year-old teens who want to impress their mates with "ZOMG kewwwl!", and for what? A lousy achievement.

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I think its important for us to share with adults potentially buying this for their children the fact Skykinect scans everything, is always on and connected to the internet.

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J. Reezy wrote...

spirosz wrote...

You know, I'm watching the COD: Ghosts trailer and it doesn't actually seem that bad, reminds me of why I loved COD4.

You know what is bad? People calling that TRAILER some kind of evolution in the series, as if it is the best Call of Duty ever made. A graphical upgrade is very blinding apparently.


Looks like the story is betting a boost as well.  What am I saying?  Did CoD even have a story previously?

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Degs29 wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

spirosz wrote...

You know, I'm watching the COD: Ghosts trailer and it doesn't actually seem that bad, reminds me of why I loved COD4.

You know what is bad? People calling that TRAILER some kind of evolution in the series, as if it is the best Call of Duty ever made. A graphical upgrade is very blinding apparently.


Looks like the story is betting a boost as well.  What am I saying?  Did CoD even have a story previously?


Blops II > Mass Effect 3. Seriously.

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Roflbox wrote...

Degs29 wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

spirosz wrote...

You know, I'm watching the COD: Ghosts trailer and it doesn't actually seem that bad, reminds me of why I loved COD4.

You know what is bad? People calling that TRAILER some kind of evolution in the series, as if it is the best Call of Duty ever made. A graphical upgrade is very blinding apparently.


Looks like the story is betting a boost as well.  What am I saying?  Did CoD even have a story previously?


Blops II > Mass Effect 3. Seriously.


Kop even bothered writing down all the C&C possible in the game.

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you people are legen...

Wait for it...

#1083
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Degs29 wrote...

Looks like the story is betting a boost as well.  What am I saying?  Did CoD even have a story previously?


Sure, CoD4, MW2, and Black Ops all had good stories, even if they're highly derivative of Tom Clancy and nothing that's going to win awards. 

Haven't played Black Ops 2 but yeah, from what I've heard it's in the same boat. 

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Allan Schumacher wrote...

The borrowing tangent can die now, since it's not particularly funny and the point has been made.

In any case, it seems like the console is adopting a delivery method very similar to Steam, in that physical media is just used as an installer. Instead of validating with a CD key, it must validate with something else I imagine (not sure on the details).

The decision will severely affect (i.e. eliminate) used physical copies.  I actually don't know much about the console, and haven't really seen much aside from synopsis that have gone around the past day, but it sounds like there's a rumor that games can be sold digitally, and in that case the "fee" won't apply since it'll be able to remove the license from the seller's account, and transfer it to the purchaser's account.

Interesting shift for used games, if this is in fact the case.


(Emphasis added.) Sorry if I'm overanalysing your words, but if a QA tester on DA3 hasn't seen much of the new Xbox, is that maybe an indication that the game will be current gen only?

I know you can't answer this question Allan, and my apologies if I appear to be jumping to massive conclusions based on one off-the-cuff remark. Hopefully you understand I'm just speculating here.

Modifié par JWvonGoethe, 26 mai 2013 - 06:33 .


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Blind2Society wrote...

How about not having exclusives and instead giving choice back to the gamer?

yes, how dare companies try to convince us to choose their product through the use of exclusive titles.
It's like they wanted to make money or something *shudders at the thought*

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Sajuro wrote...

Blind2Society wrote...

How about not having exclusives and instead giving choice back to the gamer?

yes, how dare companies try to convince us to choose their product through the use of exclusive titles.
It's like they wanted to make money or something *shudders at the thought*


You should go work in their PR department. You could try to twist the fact that their console sucks and they need exclusive games to attempt to win customers over.

No thanks friendo. I would prefer picking a console based on the merits of the console itself and then choose the games I want to play.

You can lick Microgreeds rear end all you want, but I'll have none of it.

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Legendary?

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Blind2Society wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

Blind2Society wrote...

How about not having exclusives and instead giving choice back to the gamer?

yes, how dare companies try to convince us to choose their product through the use of exclusive titles.
It's like they wanted to make money or something *shudders at the thought*


You should go work in their PR department. You could try to twist the fact that their console sucks and they need exclusive games to attempt to win customers over.

No thanks friendo. I would prefer picking a console based on the merits of the console itself and then choose the games I want to play.

You can lick Microgreeds rear end all you want, but I'll have none of it.


If your choice in console is based on the "merits" of the device, then why do exclusives matter?

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Interesting article:

http://techcrunch.co...s-spruce-goose/

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It's the fact that games can be exclusive that matters. A game being exclusive means I am forced to buy a console I may not want (based off it's own ups and downs) if I want to play a certain game. For the console manufacturer all it is, is a way to subvert having to rely on the console itself to sell it. A game being exclusive does nothing good for gamers. What do you gain from the owner of 'the other console' not being able to play a game?

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o Ventus wrote...

Blind2Society wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

Blind2Society wrote...

How about not having exclusives and instead giving choice back to the gamer?

yes, how dare companies try to convince us to choose their product through the use of exclusive titles.
It's like they wanted to make money or something *shudders at the thought*


You should go work in their PR department. You could try to twist the fact that their console sucks and they need exclusive games to attempt to win customers over.

No thanks friendo. I would prefer picking a console based on the merits of the console itself and then choose the games I want to play.

You can lick Microgreeds rear end all you want, but I'll have none of it.


If your choice in console is based on the "merits" of the device, then why do exclusives matter?


You misunderstood what he said. It's not about whether exclusives matter or not, but that they shouldn't exist in the first place. Exclusives only matter when a console company relies on exclusive deals rather than on actually making a console worth buying. Then again, I wouldn't really feel comfortable seeing Nintendo franchises like Metroid or Mario being handled by a different company than Nintendo. W/ the exception of Other M, Nintendo hasn't done wrong w/ their old school franchises.

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Degs29 wrote...

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I don't have a broadband connection at home so wouldn't be able to use one - so a definite no from me to Microsoft


Not sure why people keep saying this.  It seems like even people with dial-up would still be able to play games on the X1. 

I'm not set up with any internet connection from home
(I'm not at home right now)

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This thread keeps amusing me. It was actually one of the PC master race's conspiracies against Console peasants ... gradually all peasants will be punished by worse and worse rubbish consoles!

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Legatus Arianus wrote...
This thread keeps amusing me. It was actually one of the PC master race's conspiracies against Console peasants ... gradually all peasants will be punished by worse and worse rubbish consoles!

Console gamers would never do this to their own kind, Microsoft's Dev team must have been infiltrated by crab people.

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TheBlackBaron wrote...

Eternal Napalm wrote...

All that achievement stuff through tv is lame as hell. Lol really? Oh my goodness, is this console horrible.


I'm starting to think you're a sock puppet for sympathy4saren, and probably following a script somewhere. 


He IS sympathy4sarenreturns, look at all his threads. He committed to PS4 early and now seems to have severe buyers remorse for a console he hasn't even bought yet and is desperately trying to get people to back him up. He needs to hear how he made the right call. It's kind of hilarious and cringeworthy at the same time.

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Do we know if they're doing any demos for their exclusives @ E3?

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Do we know if they're doing any demos for their exclusives @ E3?

They better.

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TheBlackBaron wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

TheBlackBaron wrote...

Blind2Society wrote...

How about not having exclusives and instead giving choice back to the gamer?


That hasn't existed for decades, if it ever did. Exclusives are the lifeblood of the manufacturers - there's no way to the PlayStation would have been as successful as it was if it didn't court Square away from the NES and put FFVII only on the PS1 - and they pay handsomely to ensure that. 

-snip-


From what I recall, that was due in no small part to Nintendo's decision to continue using cartridges for the N64 instead of using CDs, which the PS was using two years before the release of the N64.


You're right, that was definitely part of it. Sony put less restrictions on the content they'd allow on games for their system, and CD-ROM's were themselves much less restrictive than cartridges.

Funny thing is, Sony only made the PS1 in the first place because Nintendo backed out of a contract for Sony to manufacture a CD-ROM add-on for the SNES ... which they instead gave to Phillips, and then that deal imploded and led to the creation of the CD-i.

Nintendo probably wants that decision back.  

Eternal Napalm wrote...

All that achievement stuff through tv is lame as hell. Lol really? Oh my goodness, is this console horrible.


I'm starting to think you're a sock puppet for sympathy4saren, and probably following a script somewhere. 


Just for the record,  both FF7 and FF8 were released on the PC in addition to the Playstation.

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J. Reezy wrote...

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Do we know if they're doing any demos for their exclusives @ E3?

They better.


I'm expecting at least one EA title for a demo and probably a game no one expected.  I'm expeting that COD Ghost demo.