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[Eternal Napalm]

Microsoft is in massive damage control. Let's say they go the fee GameStop route. Or whoever. Do you know who pays that fee in the end? Please, and I'm not saying anyone is, but let's not be naive on this. Consumers will be paying that fee through higher prices, thus:

Paying for a company to restock the game they just sold.

Anyone who wants Xbox One, go ahead and have at it. Just no complaining down the road.

Modifié par Eternal Napalm, 27 mai 2013 - 02:24 .

[Eternal Napalm]

My disdain for Xbone isn't artificial, it's a commonsense, natural and logical consumer reaction. Just look at the internet. I'm mild compared to thousands of others.

Modifié par Eternal Napalm, 27 mai 2013 - 02:25 .

[Lazengan]

spirosz wrote...

Lazengan wrote...

tbh, while Call of Duty represents the cancer of gaming

I've played every single game of the series, even the very hard to find, almost non-existent CoD3

I'm not gonna lie, I enjoyed the story. I exclusively played it for the story though, I found the multiplayer to be nothing more than a poorly developped, glorified pinata simulator

This is also perhaps the reason that the Call of duty franchise is the most pirated game series of all time.

How is it the cancer of gaming?  Gaming isn't dieing at any rate and games are becoming better and better.  It has a specific aspect to it, that is tailored towards a certain group that enjoy the "arcade" MP feel.  The MP is developed very well, just because it's seem as "user-friendly", doesn't mean there isn't a learning curve to it.  

Have you ever play competitively , from COD or any first person shooter recently?    

The combat is absolutely terrible and mind numbingly bad. No choices to be made, repetitive, no mechanics, everything is hold hands with the deveopper and not actually playing a game

I've never played competitive FPS games, and the only FPS I ever played was a few scrims in BF2. I play competitive Dota, LoL, and Starcraft 2. I have seen competitive BF2 and BF3 streams and am very envious of the teamwork based plays and the excellent mechanics

and from what I have seen from the call of duty competitive scene I really don't think I want to get involved

[Sajuro]

Blind2Society wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

Blind2Society wrote...

How about not having exclusives and instead giving choice back to the gamer?

yes, how dare companies try to convince us to choose their product through the use of exclusive titles.
It's like they wanted to make money or something *shudders at the thought*

You should go work in their PR department. You could try to twist the fact that their console sucks and they need exclusive games to attempt to win customers over.

No thanks friendo. I would prefer picking a console based on the merits of the console itself and then choose the games I want to play.

You can lick Microgreeds rear end all you want, but I'll have none of it.

I think that a solid library, one that does have exclusive games, is a vital part of any console.
Never really looked at the specifications of the consoles I look at the library (and if there is anything I want coming out), what my friends have (so I can play with them), and price point. If we get great games cross platform then yay , if a company pays to have exclusive status on a great game then good for them. If that game and other exclusives on the console are enticing enough then I will consider purchasing it.
Thus I wasn't mad when MGS4 or the Uncharted Series came out for PS3 exclusively.
If I choose to buy a PS4 and miss out on Halo, Fable, and any of the other exclusive games then so be it, I'm sure PS4 will have plenty of fantastic games.

[Lazengan]

Microsoft actually realizes that the gaming industry is no longer about making games, but about making interactive, user friendly toys.

The past few years has seen very few releases in actual games. It's been interactive movies, and using video games as an outlet to tell stories

At least Microsoft has the audacity to admit and understand this, and make steps to adopt to the change in the consumer market. I'm not going to buy it at all, but Sony will still bull**** about making games, when most of them will be rather poor.

[LPPrince]

Both will have fantastic games. Gamers on both sides will be winners.

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

why would anyone buy an xbox is beyond me.It doesn't have naughty dawg

[TheRealJayDee]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

journey is horrible

Well done. Here are the test results: You are a horrible person. I'm serious, that's what it says: "A horrible person." We weren't even testing for that.

[Blind2Society]

Lazengan wrote...

Microsoft actually realizes that the gaming industry is no longer about making games, but about making interactive, user friendly toys.

The past few years has seen very few releases in actual games. It's been interactive movies, and using video games as an outlet to tell stories

At least Microsoft has the audacity to admit and understand this, and make steps to adopt to the change in the consumer market. I'm not going to buy it at all, but Sony will still bull**** about making games, when most of them will be rather poor.

What?

Modifié par Blind2Society, 27 mai 2013 - 03:36 .

[LPPrince]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

I think something people will have to realize is that gaming is really going to become a luxury the next generation. Every game is going to cost 60(+) bucks, and you're going to have to pay a pretty penny to use the online features that the consoles are being built around. It's not going to be too bad to buy crap games if you can afford them, but it's going to be brutal if you don't have the cash.

Gaming has always been a luxury.

People tend to forget that and then rage like the roofs over their heads are going to be removed permanently.

[Ravensword]

LPPrince wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

I think something people will have to realize is that gaming is really going to become a luxury the next generation. Every game is going to cost 60(+) bucks, and you're going to have to pay a pretty penny to use the online features that the consoles are being built around. It's not going to be too bad to buy crap games if you can afford them, but it's going to be brutal if you don't have the cash.

Gaming has always been a luxury.

People tend to forget that and then rage like the roofs over their heads are going to be removed permanently.

He probably meant to say that it would be a luxury for wealthier people.

[LPPrince]

Gaming's always been getting progressively more expensive.

I don't really see things being out of the ordinary. It is kinda ridiculous when you think about it though, for some people.

[HiddenInWar]

Considering microsofts attention being grabbed by the criticism of X1, their performance at E3 is likely to be put in the spotlight.

[LPPrince]

HiddenInWar wrote...

Considering microsofts attention being grabbed by the criticism of X1, their performance at E3 is likely to be put in the spotlight.

All eyes are on them, pretty much. They either go big or go home.

[Eternal Napalm]

Lazengan wrote...

Microsoft actually realizes that the gaming industry is no longer about making games, but about making interactive, user friendly toys.

The past few years has seen very few releases in actual games. It's been interactive movies, and using video games as an outlet to tell stories

At least Microsoft has the audacity to admit and understand this, and make steps to adopt to the change in the consumer market. I'm not going to buy it at all, but Sony will still bull**** about making games, when most of them will be rather poor.

You mean mandate the consumer market demand artificially, through policies and tech, ignoring basic consumer demand, thinking we will just accept it when competitors are offering better alternatives? Microsoft has forgotten how economics functions. Fact.

Modifié par Eternal Napalm, 27 mai 2013 - 04:17 .

[Sajuro]

Eternal Napalm wrote...

Lazengan wrote...

Microsoft actually realizes that the gaming industry is no longer about making games, but about making interactive, user friendly toys.

The past few years has seen very few releases in actual games. It's been interactive movies, and using video games as an outlet to tell stories

At least Microsoft has the audacity to admit and understand this, and make steps to adopt to the change in the consumer market. I'm not going to buy it at all, but Sony will still bull**** about making games, when most of them will be rather poor.

You mean mandate the consumer market demand artificially, through policies and tech, ignoring basic consumer demand, thinking we will just accept it when competitors are offering better alternatives? Microsoft has forgotten how economics functions. Fact.

If Microsoft puts out a product, and people buy that product in large enough quantities to recoup initial losses then I would say it understands how economics functions
Here's a toy and here are our conditions
we want the toy -gives money-
kay -gives toy-

[Ravensword]

LPPrince wrote...

Gaming's always been getting progressively more expensive.

I don't really see things being out of the ordinary. It is kinda ridiculous when you think about it though, for some people.

And less people will be buying games b/c of that.

[Sajuro]

J. Reezy wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

If Microsoft puts out a product, and people buy that product in large enough quantities to recoup initial losses then I would say it understands how economics functions

Is that a legit understanding of the market or just lucking out with a product that ended up being sought after though? It can easily be flipped around and you can say "If the product Microsoft puts out fails then it didn't have an understanding of the market". The thing is Microsoft seem like its trying to forcibly dictate the market with the Xbox One, not letting the market dictate. Other articles have brought up that point. They want people to want what this new Xbox has to offer. But do consumers really want what this new Xbox has to offer?

Maybe not, but as I always say: if the invisible hand does exist, it's always flipping you off.

[Blind2Society]

Sajuro wrote...

Eternal Napalm wrote...

Lazengan wrote...

Microsoft actually realizes that the gaming industry is no longer about making games, but about making interactive, user friendly toys.

The past few years has seen very few releases in actual games. It's been interactive movies, and using video games as an outlet to tell stories

At least Microsoft has the audacity to admit and understand this, and make steps to adopt to the change in the consumer market. I'm not going to buy it at all, but Sony will still bull**** about making games, when most of them will be rather poor.

You mean mandate the consumer market demand artificially, through policies and tech, ignoring basic consumer demand, thinking we will just accept it when competitors are offering better alternatives? Microsoft has forgotten how economics functions. Fact.

If Microsoft puts out a product, and people buy that product in large enough quantities to recoup initial losses then I would say it understands how economics functions
Here's a toy and here are our conditions
we want the toy -gives money-
kay -gives toy-

Um, I'm not a business major but I'm pretty sure just recouping initial losses is considered a failure.