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[GodChildInTheMachine]

Ravensword wrote...



But shiny graphics =/= quality game.

I know, and that's not what I said in any way. I'm just saying that graphics are easy and safe to progress with whereas adventurous mechanics aren't. There's really no reason for developers not to push for shiny graphics, because the capability to improve is just always there and it gets easier and easier as technology advances. 

I would say that graphics are part of the quality of a game. I don't mind older styles of graphics; hell, I still play Fallout and Planescape: Torment now and then and I love them. I just want the graphics to be of a consistent quality and performance. As for general quality, I'd say that is largely technical as well. A game needs a certain level of polish and a well implemented system of mechanics. It obviously doesn't hurt to have great writing, either. 

Still, you could say that games like Halo and CoD are well polished games of a high quality (and at the time of release they don't even have the 'shiniest' graphics. BlOps II was released at 720 native. Really? 720 in 2012?) but they are rarely innovative. Being innovative means putting your neck out to try something new, and that isn't the kind of behavior that major publishers engage in because they are just corporations at the end of the day. That's one reason I'm so excited about some of these Kickstarter games that are supposed to start coming out.

When I think about the future gaming world I want to live in, it's one in which publishers and distributors are dead and buried and you get your content through a direct relationship with the developers. That way, any kind of game that there's any market for could get made instead of everything being homogenized for mass marketing. 

[Bekkael]

ShepnTali wrote...

Pordis Shepard wrote...

Bekkael wrote...
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Has anyone looked into the Ouya?

Not really looked into it seriously, but for the price I'm thinking I might just support them anyway.

Is this a streaming box? If so, I dread it. I dread the whole cloud concept of gaming. I dread it for PS4. I'll keep buying old, used hardware for older games if I have to. Guess I'll get a test run eventually to see how it shakes out. 

This is what is says down the page a bit on amazon:

Games Only on OUYA You download OUYA games directly to your console -- no discs to buy or scratch. And the games on OUYA are made by some of the most inventive game developers in the business. Favorite franchises like Final Fantasy, brand new never-before-seen titles and hundreds of other games. Shooters, platformers, role-playing games, action games... You name it. And, best of all, every game on OUYA is free to try. You might end up investing in that coin doubler, buying the healing elixir that extends your life, or unlocking the full version of the game, but everything -- absolutely everything -- is free to try. We believe you shouldn’t have to buy it unless you love it.

I never heard of it before today. I just happened across a comment someone made on an X1 article and googled it. *shrug* It's just encouraging to me to see there are a few options still out there apart from the three major consoles and PC.

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Modifié par Bekkael, 08 juin 2013 - 02:18 .

[MerinTB]

HiddenInWar wrote...

ShepnTali wrote...
New game trailer today. Doesn't look like a winner here. Maybe fun, who knows. Very poor graphical power showing for sure. Xbox One has more potential than this.

Lococycle Xbox One trailer

If this is one of the 15 exclusives MS is talking about, I eagerly await angry joes opinion. 

...

Someone needs to have some paramedics on hand, near Joe, during E3.

[MerinTB]

Bekkael wrote...

ShepnTali wrote...

Pordis Shepard wrote...

Bekkael wrote...
<snip>
Has anyone looked into the Ouya?

Not really looked into it seriously, but for the price I'm thinking I might just support them anyway.

Is this a streaming box? If so, I dread it. I dread the whole cloud concept of gaming. I dread it for PS4. I'll keep buying old, used hardware for older games if I have to. Guess I'll get a test run eventually to see how it shakes out. 

This is what is says down the page a bit on amazon:

Games Only on OUYA You download OUYA games directly to your console -- no discs to buy or scratch. And
the games on OUYA are made by some of the most inventive game developers in the business. Favorite franchises like Final Fantasy, brand new never-before-seen titles and hundreds of other games.
Shooters, platformers, role-playing games, action games... You name it. And, best of all, every game on OUYA is free to try. You might end up investing in that coin doubler, buying the healing elixir that extends
your life, or unlocking the full version of the game, but everything -- absolutely everything -- is free to try. We believe you shouldn’t have to buy it unless you love it.

I never heard of it before today. I just happened across a comment someone made on an X1 article and googled it. *shrug* It's just encouraging to me to see there are a few options still out there apart from the three major consoles and PC.

As a concept OUTA is a very cool thing.  It was a very successful Kickstarter.  I backed it, but didn't ask for one.  I don't know that I'd get one, but it's definitely a buy before the Xbone.

Again, PC gamer.  I don't really need a console.  If BioWare had said that ME would have been on PC 6 months after launching on the 360, I wouldn't even have a 360.

[AresKeith]

When Will Gamers Say Enough Is Enough?

[ShepnTali]

@Bekkael (Amazon description) "You download OUYA games directly to your console"


Thanks. On wiki it says it's game streaming. But 99 bucks... if the service is stable, it may be a worthwhile experiment at least. The OnLive service does provide many big 3rd party games I believe.

[Ravensword]

GodChildInTheMachine wrote...

Ravensword wrote...



But shiny graphics =/= quality game.

I know, and that's not what I said in any way. I'm just saying that graphics are easy and safe to progress with whereas adventurous mechanics aren't. There's really no reason for developers not to push for shiny graphics, because the capability to improve is just always there and it gets easier and easier as technology advances. 

I would say that graphics are part of the quality of a game. I don't mind older styles of graphics; hell, I still play Fallout and Planescape: Torment now and then and I love them. I just want the graphics to be of a consistent quality and performance. As for general quality, I'd say that is largely technical as well. A game needs a certain level of polish and a well implemented system of mechanics. It obviously doesn't hurt to have great writing, either. 

Still, you could say that games like Halo and CoD are well polished games of a high quality (and at the time of release they don't even have the 'shiniest' graphics. BlOps II was released at 720 native. Really? 720 in 2012?) but they are rarely innovative. Being innovative means putting your neck out to try something new, and that isn't the kind of behavior that major publishers engage in because they are just corporations at the end of the day. That's one reason I'm so excited about some of these Kickstarter games that are supposed to start coming out.

When I think about the future gaming world I want to live in, it's one in which publishers and distributors are dead and buried and you get your content through a direct relationship with the developers. That way, any kind of game that there's any market for could get made instead of everything being homogenized for mass marketing. 

I see. Agreed.

[HiddenInWar]

Actually, a good idea would be to see how consumer reports responds to this!

CR reviews could give us an extremely accurate depiction of what we might be dealing with in regards to X1.

[HiddenInWar]

AresKeith wrote...

When Will Gamers Say Enough Is Enough?

interesting.

[ShepnTali]

Here's more ranting, but beware, perhaps more salty than Joe.


Alpha Omega Sin Xbox rant #2

[MegaSovereign]

I'll be on the look out for more Hitler rant parodies.

[AresKeith]

ShepnTali wrote...

Here's more ranting, but beware, perhaps more salty than Joe.


Alpha Omega Sin Xbox rant #2

He's close to being a Sith lol

[CrimsonN7]

lol ecksbawks1

[ShepnTali]

AresKeith wrote...

ShepnTali wrote...

Here's more ranting, but beware, perhaps more salty than Joe.


Alpha Omega Sin Xbox rant #2

He's close to being a Sith lol

Honestly, he makes me blush. But I know people love an outrageous nerd rage. 

[Pordis Shepard]

ShepnTali wrote...
Honestly, he makes me blush.

One would never know behind your face mask.  

As I recall the OUYA is android based, but idk how they plan to structure the gaming library for it.  Plus, I think it will have home media capabilities... just going off memory here though.  Still I think it may be well worth the price as an alternative.  Hopefully it will do well enough to at least make a statement to the big corps about how to treat their users.  I seriously do not want Kinect and that being forced on me is prob enough for me to avoid the X1.

[HiddenInWar]

Seriously considering switching to the apparent master race of PC though, what're some good gaming PC's? I was informed alienware wasn't as good as initially hoped or is that true?

[Splinter Cell 108]

HiddenInWar wrote...

Seriously considering switching to the apparent master race of PC though, what're some good gaming PC's? I was informed alienware wasn't as good as initially hoped or is that true?

Alienware is too expensive and it isn't what it used to be ever since Dell bought them out. Don't buy a pre-made PC, build your own, most of the time it is cheaper and way better than anything that the so called "experts" will sell you. It takes a while to learn which parts work with what. Make a new thread about the topic,  lots of people have been doing that lately.

[Ryzaki]

Eh I got mine prebuilt from microcenter. Works fine. *knocks on wood*

Though I need to swap out my card soon. It's getting old D:

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Its weird all the game review sites are writing things about how crappy X1's policies are except IGN.

[Splinter Cell 108]

Ryzaki wrote...

Eh I got mine prebuilt from microcenter. Works fine. *knocks on wood*

Though I need to swap out my card soon. It's getting old D:

Depends on where you buy it. Some people might charge fair, some won't. Alienware most definitely won't, their prices are too high for what they offer even though you can get the components cheaper and still get a stronger PC. They also don't specify some of the parts they use, for example they don't tell which PSU brand they use (I've heard rumors that they use cheap Dell garbage), nor do they mention the brands from where they get most of their components except for their GPUs. Personally I want to know who's putting what in my PC.

I've also heard rumors about Alienware PCs having overheating issues. 

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Warren Spector on used games

“Used games allow more people, specifically younger people, to become game fans because of the lower price point,”

[Ryzaki]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Eh I got mine prebuilt from microcenter. Works fine. *knocks on wood*

Though I need to swap out my card soon. It's getting old D:

Depends on where you buy it. Some people might charge fair, some won't. Alienware most definitely won't, their prices are too high for what they offer even though you can get the components cheaper and still get a stronger PC. They also don't specify some of the parts they use, for example they don't tell which PSU brand they use (I've heard rumors that they use cheap Dell garbage), nor do they mention the brands from where they get most of their components except for their GPUs. Personally I want to know who's putting what in my PC.

I've also heard rumors about Alienware PCs having overheating issues. 

Yeah there was no way I was buying from alienware. I understand a premium (because they are the ones building it) but alienware is NOPE. And yeah I hate that. The magic micro I went to told me exactly what pieces I was putting into that sucker and since I have one of those open window cases It's quite easy to see they put in what I told em to. So no smoke and mirrors there.

And yeah. I thankfully picked out my own case (wish I chose the Haf X instead of the Antec DF-85 I picked but ah well).