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iakus wrote...

And that's exactly why I say start over.  Don't endorse any ending.  The trilogy is done, the loop is closed.  Time for a fresh start.  Tabula Rasa.  Done is done.  

There is no Destroy
There is no Control
There is no Synthesis
THere is no Refuse

There is only Mass Effect.


You have to endorse an ending.

Even something as simple as the geth being alive would logically be control or synthesis. Since you can't rebuild a dead AI. 

Though it looks like you want MEHM as canon anyway, which is laughable.

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Morocco Mole wrote...

iakus wrote...

And that's exactly why I say start over.  Don't endorse any ending.  The trilogy is done, the loop is closed.  Time for a fresh start.  Tabula Rasa.  Done is done.  

There is no Destroy
There is no Control
There is no Synthesis
THere is no Refuse

There is only Mass Effect.


You have to endorse an ending.

Even something as simple as the geth being alive would logically be control or synthesis. Since you can't rebuild a dead AI. 

Though it looks like you want MEHM as canon anyway, which is laughable.


Equally laughable is the notion of rejecting the back-door left by BW themselves, as already pointed out by Julia:

The last perspective on events we get is the unreliable narrator that is the Stargazers, on some far-off world, so far removed from events time-wise - developer-comment in the files places it 10.000 years after - that it's more than plausible to take advantage of that.

So yes, BW have to endorse an ending: the Reapers defeated and gone, the galaxy continuing to revolve around its axis. Simple enough to carry out, given that final stage.

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The way I see it ME trilogy should just end on 3. And the next ME universe game could happen in some alternate reality on mirror dimension in witch reapers were destroyed by protheans at the cost of total destruction of protheans civilization.

So no ME4 but ME Universe or something .
Or like someone wrote obove me in some ridiculus time line 10000 years in the future.

Modifié par Dominator24, 27 mai 2013 - 11:48 .


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Repetita juvant...

It will be like deus ex invisible wars

If they do a sequel (which I doubt they have the testicular fortitude for) that is how they will handle it

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Morocco Mole wrote...

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Considering they pretty much spit on ME 1 and 2 choices in Me3 I guess they can just force story on us again. Right Councilor/Admiral Anderson and apparently not dead Rachni....

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I think Bioware means they do not want to make a direct sequel to Mass Effect 3. They can still make a fourth game set in the same universe x-years after the events of ME3 without making it a continuation of the trilogy.

That's what I see Bioware doing. In my mind, going foreward is the only sensible choice. 

Modifié par Only-Twin, 29 mai 2013 - 07:23 .


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Heh! Maybe BW are just trying to come up with a narrative where clone shep survives his fall and decides to find out who he could be now he can't be the original Shepard.

Or maybe one day we'll be given a fan made patch where you look out Shep's arpartment window and you see a cleaning crew cleaning a stain off the side of a building.

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Oh look, this thread again.

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Only-Twin wrote...

I think Bioware means they do not want to make a direct sequel to Mass Effect 3. They can still make a fourth game set in the same universe x-years after the events of ME3 without making it a continuation of the trilogy.

That's what I see Bioware doing. In my mind, going foreward is the only sensible choice. 


I could see this, and unless they try to keep the story small in scale, the only real antagonist i can see moving forward would be the Leviathans, no matter what ending was chosen.  Just my opinion tho.  BW really did write themselves into a corner, no matter how you look at it.

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The Leviathans are dead. The last ones were killed by the reapers before the Crucible fired. The end. Come up with something new. It's a big galaxy. If you're that unimaginative you don't deserve to write any series.

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Alternate timeline....It'll happen.



Think like the original Star Trek (Kirk/Spock) and The Next Generation (Picard)


Shepard's story is done. They won't canonize an ending. It seems as if they're going to let the Shepard Trilogy stand on its own as a self contained story. Which is fine by me. I'll always be able to come back and enjoy the Shepard crew again, whenever I want. It's time for a new protagonist. A new cast of characters. A new journey. I'm looking forward to the future.


Personally, unless they find a way to transfer our final ME3 ending choices over to the next game on the new generation of consoles (which seems highly unlikely, if not impossible) then I don't want to see any familiar faces from Shepard's Trilogy. Bioware shouldnt try to make the next protagonist live up to Shepard. They shouldn't try and make the next villain live up to the Reapers. We need a new kind of hero. A new type of threat

Modifié par Mcfly616, 30 mai 2013 - 03:54 .


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Mcfly616 wrote...

Alternate timeline....It'll happen.



Think like the original Star Trek (Kirk/Spock) and The Next Generation (Picard)


Shepard's story is done. They won't canonize an ending. It seems as if they're going to let the Shepard Trilogy stand on its own as a self contained story. Which is fine by me. I'll always be able to come back and enjoy the Shepard crew again, whenever I want. It's time for a new protagonist. A new cast of characters. A new journey. I'm looking forward to the future.


Personally, unless they find a way to transfer our final ME3 ending choices over to the next game on the new generation of consoles (which seems highly unlikely, if not impossible) then I don't want to see any familiar faces from Shepard's Trilogy. Bioware shouldnt try to make the next protagonist live up to Shepard. They shouldn't try and make the next villain live up to the Reapers. We need a new kind of hero. A new type of threat


And I'm okay with all this.

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I wouldn't have any inherent problem with ANY decision they make. I don't think it's the slightest bit reasonable to reject a prequel, spin-off, or sequel outright without any information.

It all comes down to if the story and game is done well. You'd be amazed at what can work when your product is high quality.

Modifié par chemiclord, 30 mai 2013 - 05:14 .


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chemiclord wrote...
 I don't think it's the slightest bit reasonable to reject a prequel, spin-off, or sequel outright without any information.

Prequels are narrative herpes. Highly contagious, incurable, and no fun at parties.

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Mcfly616 wrote...

Alternate timeline....It'll happen.

[rest snipped for space but I generally agree]


I think you may be onto something.  I have always suspected that Casy and Walters attempted in the original endings what is sometimes called "Torch the Franchise and Run".  The fact is that the various endings are simply too different to canonize one of them, and prequels are a narrative kiss of death.

If they are going to do this at all (ME4), my guess is with you, either an alternate timeline or something very much like it.

-Polaris

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chemiclord wrote...

I wouldn't have any inherent problem with ANY decision they make. I don't think it's the slightest bit reasonable to reject a prequel, spin-off, or sequel outright without any information.

It all comes down to if the story and game is done well. You'd be amazed at what can work when your product is high quality.


The nature of ME3 means a sequel can't happen without canonizing certain elements.  That's guaranteed to p*ss off a lot of people no matter how they go about it.  A spinoff has similar problems.  Prequels have the disadvantage of "We already knwo how it ends" (though I admit DXHR still managed to do quite well)

Sure it can be done well.  But quality has become a bit of a question lately.

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Rubios wrote...

Oh look, this thread again.


It doesn't surprise me that a synthesis cult member is against discussion.