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Could a Synthesis supporter justify the evil of Synthesis?


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#351
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Redbelle wrote...

Speaking of gray.... did anyone else notice that the Paragon/Renegade mechanic didn't make as much of an impact in this game?

And can anyone tell me the difference between paragon/renegade, and reputation increases. Cause I keep getting more 'Reputation' and unlike para/rene, I have no idea what reputation 'gets' me.


Basically the lessoned the impact of Paragon and Renegade, because it was an unpopular mechanic that pretty much forced players to play in one direction. It was hard to roleplay if you always had to be Para/Rene. Reputation is just as, if not more, important.

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Synthesis

The Good: Shepard takes the greatest threat in the history of the galaxy and turns them into an ally.
The Bad: Shepard makes a choice that will transform every living thing in the galaxy and s/he dies.

Some will embrace the idea of synthesis, learn from the technologies and expand on the idea of what it means to be alive. They will deem Shepard a hero who ushered in a new era. Others will detest the idea of synthesis, consider it a vile abomination of life itself. They will see Shepard as a monster who allied w/ the enemy, a traitor. Still others won't care. They'll be too busy internally downloading cat videos and experiencing porn w/in their own minds.

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 24 mai 2013 - 08:15 .


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I don't like to repeat myself.

I already told that Mass Effect and Element Zero have only descriptions of observations of their properties. There is no detailed scientific data on the matter. If there was, we would already live in an age of easy space travel.

For ME3 Synthesis has enough details. They just introduced via epilogue scene, not a codex entry.


That is a misunderstanding of the point I was attempting to make.  My apologies I must not have been clear enough.  I shall try again.

When I am asking for an explanation of synthesis, I am not asking for it to make sense in the "real" world that is Earth as it is exists right now, in the year 2013.  I am asking for an explanation that fits within the Mass Effect world of 2186 that exists only within the three video games and a few books and comics.

The example of such an explanation I have used is element zero and the mass effect.  We are explicitly told from the very beginining of the first game what they are and how they work.  Bioware establishes that within the Mass Effect world, element zero is a real thing and works in the way the codex explains. 

We know that eezo is not a real thing in our world, but the Mass Effect world is fictional and that eezo exists there.  It is then given an explanation of how it works that is relatively simple.  It does not work in our world true, but in the Mass Effect world it does.

Synthesis is as important to the Mass Effect world as eezo is, perhaps even more so.  However it is not given an explanation like eezo is.  We are told what the results are but the how is left very frustratingly vague.  The game never gives anywhere near the level of detail on the "how" of synthesis as it does on the "how" of eezo/mass effect fields. 

Yes, eezo does not follow the scientific rules of the real world.  It does however, follow the fictional scientific rules of the fictional Mass Effect world and we told exactly how it does so.  Synthesis may or may not follow these same rules.  I do not know if it does because we are never told how it happens.



I see. I got your point now.

Well, the answer is pretty simple. Devs didn't give Synthesis more details than it already has because:
(1) Synthesis happens in the very end of the game - there is simply no room for really detailed explanations.
(2) Most likely devs reserved a lot of interesting details about Synthesis for the upcoming stories, so why uncover the surprize?

In short - really detailed explanation of Synthesis is about creating a new huge story, not about creating just one codex entry.

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spirosz wrote...

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Good and bad are just words. Each person understands them in his/her/its own way.


Oh god, what happened to your avatar. 


I painted a picture about Synthesis recently.

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And decided to use it for my new avatar and signature.

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Seival wrote...

spirosz wrote...

Seival wrote...

Good and bad are just words. Each person understands them in his/her/its own way.


Oh god, what happened to your avatar. 


I painted a picture about Synthesis recently.

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And decided to use it for my new avatar and signature.


seival, your certainly a good artist.

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Seival wrote...

(2) Most likely devs reserved a lot of interesting details about Synthesis for the upcoming stories, so why uncover the surprize?


So, if in the next story Synthesis is a non-issue, will you admit it's all a big spage magic waffle?

Your art reflects Synthesis perfectly. In a strange way it's pretty, but it has no soul.

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tickle267 wrote...

Seival wrote...

spirosz wrote...

Seival wrote...

Good and bad are just words. Each person understands them in his/her/its own way.


Oh god, what happened to your avatar. 


I painted a picture about Synthesis recently.

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And decided to use it for my new avatar and signature.


seival, your certainly a good artist.


Just wish they weren't creepy

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Yestare7 wrote...

Seival wrote...

(2) Most likely devs reserved a lot of interesting details about Synthesis for the upcoming stories, so why uncover the surprize?


So, if in the next story Synthesis is a non-issue, will you admit it's all a big spage magic waffle?

Your art reflects Synthesis perfectly. In a strange way it's pretty, but it has no soul.


how dare you! sievals art is lovely Image IPB

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Yestare7 wrote...

Seival wrote...

(2) Most likely devs reserved a lot of interesting details about Synthesis for the upcoming stories, so why uncover the surprize?


So, if in the next story Synthesis is a non-issue, will you admit it's all a big spage magic waffle?

Your art reflects Synthesis perfectly. In a strange way it's pretty, but it has no soul.


Has no soul? And what is a "soul"? How can you measure it? How can you prove it even exists?

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AresKeith wrote...

Just wish they weren't creepy


They aren't creepy at all.

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Seival wrote...

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Just wish they weren't creepy


They aren't creepy at all.

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someone may disagree with that, especially with the reaper ominously watching from afar.

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Seival wrote...

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Just wish they weren't creepy


They aren't creepy at all.

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Not with that Reaper in the background

And a green haired Quarian? Image IPB

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tickle267 wrote...

someone may disagree with that, especially with the reaper ominously watching from afar.


After the Synthesis those ships can't be even called Reapers. They are not Reapers anymore. The harvests were stopped forever.

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tickle267 wrote...
someone may disagree with that, especially with the reaper ominously watching from afar.


AresKeith wrote...
Not with that Reaper in the background
And a green haired Quarian? Image IPB


told you.

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Seival wrote...

tickle267 wrote...

someone may disagree with that, especially with the reaper ominously watching from afar.


After the Synthesis those ships can't be even called Reapers. They are not Reapers anymore. The harvests were stopped forever.


well it's a nice pic anyway, got anymore?

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AresKeith wrote...

And a green haired Quarian? Image IPB


The green haired Tali to be more specific :)

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Seival wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Just wish they weren't creepy


They aren't creepy at all.

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For some reason that reaper in the background made me chuckle.

Papa Reaper watching over his lil' girl Tali. :police:

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Seival wrote...

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And a green haired Quarian? Image IPB


The green haired Tali to be more specific :)


Tali doesn't have green hair

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tickle267 wrote...

Seival wrote...

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someone may disagree with that, especially with the reaper ominously watching from afar.


After the Synthesis those ships can't be even called Reapers. They are not Reapers anymore. The harvests were stopped forever.


well it's a nice pic anyway, got anymore?


Nice maybe, but far... VERY far from professional. Unfortunately.

http://social.biowar.../albums/1331021

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AresKeith wrote...

Seival wrote...

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And a green haired Quarian? Image IPB


The green haired Tali to be more specific :)


Tali doesn't have green hair


do we ever see what colour hair (if any) tali has? besides its synthesis, so your claim is invalid.

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AresKeith wrote...

Seival wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

And a green haired Quarian? Image IPB


The green haired Tali to be more specific :)


Tali doesn't have green hair


Tali doesn't have green eyes too. But that was before Synthesis :)

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Nice maybe, but far... VERY far from professional. Unfortunately.

http://social.biowar.../albums/1331021



thanks for the link. Image IPB

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tickle267 wrote...

Seival wrote...

Nice maybe, but far... VERY far from professional. Unfortunately.

http://social.biowar.../albums/1331021



thanks for the link. Image IPB


No problem :)

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tickle267 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Seival wrote...

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And a green haired Quarian? Image IPB


The green haired Tali to be more specific :)


Tali doesn't have green hair


do we ever see what colour hair (if any) tali has? besides its synthesis, so your claim is invalid.


That "picture" Bioware used for her face, her hair is black

And if synthesis really did do that then a lot of people wouldn't had green hair

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That "picture" Bioware used for her face, her hair is black

And if synthesis really did do that then a lot of people wouldn't had green hair


ahh yes, the picture that had a great deal of work put into it, thanks for reminding me. still whats wrong with green hair?