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[invert180]

I think how armour is handled now fits very well with the atmosphere that ME2 has developed. You've gone out to recruit a bunch of badass folks in the galaxy, all of whom have been busy doing their own thing for the past who knows how long.

They're not military. They have their own personalities and their own way of dressing. Just because you've hired them for your mission, doesn't mean you can begin dictating to them what they should and should not wear. They don't seem like the kind of folks that give a damn about wanting to wear shoes that match yours.

[luk3us]

If they wanted to be lazy, they could have just ripped the inventory system straight out of DA, and then made it pretty. Oh well, I guess we get stuck with different coloured outfits... Yaaa....

[Halfheart]

Party members not much so... "outfits" that we (presumably) get only through increasing loyalty (also I haven't seen if we can switch to previous version/s) is not the same. Though I will admit that it is technically a choice.



As a previous poster mentioned as well, I will be extremely disappointed if our unarmored squaddies (SuZe, Miranda I'm looking at you) can survive in harsh environments without environmentally sealed hard suits.

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

invert180 wrote...

I think how armour is handled now fits very well with the atmosphere that ME2 has developed. You've gone out to recruit a bunch of badass folks in the galaxy, all of whom have been busy doing their own thing for the past who knows how long.
They're not military. They have their own personalities and their own way of dressing. Just because you've hired them for your mission, doesn't mean you can begin dictating to them what they should and should not wear. They don't seem like the kind of folks that give a damn about wanting to wear shoes that match yours.

What about weapons? Yeah, it makes sense that these "badasses" whove been "doing their own thing for years" would up and accept their weapons being dictated by Shepard.

Why didnt they just remove the option to customise their weapons as well? That would have been consistent then.

[invert180]

What? They continue to use whichever class of weapons they're trained in. It's not like you can suddenly force them to use assault rifles if they've been wielding pistols and SMGs.

[izmirtheastarach]

But you do get to choose which weapons they take with them on a mission.

[Halfheart]

Weapons don't do much for appearance... which (for me at least) is a large part of the issue.

[NINJ4 R4BBID]

Personaly i think there will be some kind of hazard suits for squadies (for hazardous areas if there are any)... as for other fights in normal enviroments it makes sense that every squadmate fights in suits, clothes, armors they like, feel comfortable in (for immersions sake they are grown up people, Shepard cannot simply play dress up as he likes using other people )... and IMO it would not even make sense if for example SuZe would wear military grade full body armor (does she even have military training!?)... i'm not worried about squaddies not wearing armor (if they have no training or just want to be killed), i will have armor with N7 logo that will look as i like (and actually be good, Onyx sux ) ... i apologize for my burst out, rant (in bad English, not my language)...

* disappears in shadows * 

Modifié par NINJ4 R4BBID, 17 janvier 2010 - 12:25 .

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

invert180 wrote...

What? They continue to use whichever class of weapons they're trained in. It's not like you can suddenly force them to use assault rifles if they've been wielding pistols and SMGs.

No but you can suddenly force them to use that new assult rifle you found and the armory replicated, if they are proficient in assult rifles. Why dont they have their own personal weapons to start with? You can apparantly find weapons tailored to characters, but why not start on it like the armour and remove the "tedious" customising of their weaponry from the entire game?

Modifié par Dinkamus_Littlelog, 17 janvier 2010 - 12:23 .

[Arrtis]

there is also a default system that acts as a auto equipment/weapons manager.

[invert180]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

No but you can suddenly force them to use that new assult rifle you found and the armory replicated, if they are proficient in assult rifles. Why dont they have their own personal weapons to start with? You can apparantly find weapons tailored to characters, but why not start on it like the armour and remove the "tedious" customising of their weaponry from the entire game?

If it really bothers you that much, simply pretend everyone enjoys having new toys to play with.  I'm not even sure how much of their weaponry you can customize and to what extent anyway.

[izmirtheastarach]

Equipping your squad

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 17 janvier 2010 - 12:33 .

[invert180]

Oh, well then... that actually supports what I was rambling about.



"Unique Weapons

While most weapons are shared, some are so advanced or so personalized to an individual that they can’t be easily replicated or transferred. These unique weapons will automatically be received by a specific squad member. This approach helps differentiate your squad members, and creates opportunities for individual progression."

[Krogan midwife]

No ****, one of my favorite parts of me1 was the armor system, the armor was just so detailed and good looking, plus wrex in pheonix was pretty lulzy

[Mox Ruuga]

invert180 wrote...

I think how armour is handled now fits very well with the atmosphere that ME2 has developed. You've gone out to recruit a bunch of badass folks in the galaxy, all of whom have been busy doing their own thing for the past who knows how long.
They're not military. They have their own personalities and their own way of dressing. Just because you've hired them for your mission, doesn't mean you can begin dictating to them what they should and should not wear. They don't seem like the kind of folks that give a damn about wanting to wear shoes that match yours.

Bunch of badasses, more like a bunch of imbeciles looks like to me. Liara and Tali weren't military in ME1, yet they wore armor like everyone else. Not doing so would have made their lives very short indeed.

It may be, that we will not be going on any hostile worlds/environments in this game, expecting Shepard in the very beginning of the game.

Still, there was a lore based reason why shields were not sufficient in combat. Shields and barriers don't protect agains gas, biological weapons, physical melee attacks, extremes of environment, etc. And shields and barriers could be overloaded.

Bioware has compromised their own creation's integrity for the sake of showing off tattoos, breasts, and a fishman chest. ME2 looks far more cartoonish and campy than ME1.

[Phoenixblight]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

invert180 wrote...

I think how armour is handled now fits very well with the atmosphere that ME2 has developed. You've gone out to recruit a bunch of badass folks in the galaxy, all of whom have been busy doing their own thing for the past who knows how long.
They're not military. They have their own personalities and their own way of dressing. Just because you've hired them for your mission, doesn't mean you can begin dictating to them what they should and should not wear. They don't seem like the kind of folks that give a damn about wanting to wear shoes that match yours.

Bunch of badasses, more like a bunch of imbeciles looks like to me. Liara and Tali weren't military in ME1, yet they wore armor like everyone else. Not doing so would have made their lives very short indeed.

It may be, that we will not be going on any hostile worlds/environments in this game, expecting Shepard in the very beginning of the game.

Still, there was a lore based reason why shields were not sufficient in combat. Shields and barriers don't protect agains gas, biological weapons, physical melee attacks, extremes of environment, etc. And shields and barriers could be overloaded.

Bioware has compromised their own creation's integrity for the sake of showing off tattoos, breasts, and a fishman chest. ME2 looks far more cartoonish and campy than ME1.

Simple then DOn't buy the game and show you are mad at them.

[Mox Ruuga]

Phoenixblight wrote...

Simple then DOn't buy the game and show you are mad at them.

The internet forum equivalent of a "I got nothing".

But don't worry, I plan on following reviews both pro and amateur before committing my hard earned cash.

[izmirtheastarach]

Phoenixblight wrote...

Mox Ruuga wrote...

Bunch of badasses, more like a bunch of imbeciles looks like to me. Liara and Tali weren't military in ME1, yet they wore armor like everyone else. Not doing so would have made their lives very short indeed.

It may be, that we will not be going on any hostile worlds/environments in this game, expecting Shepard in the very beginning of the game.

Still, there was a lore based reason why shields were not sufficient in combat. Shields and barriers don't protect agains gas, biological weapons, physical melee attacks, extremes of environment, etc. And shields and barriers could be overloaded.

Bioware has compromised their own creation's integrity for the sake of showing off tattoos, breasts, and a fishman chest. ME2 looks far more cartoonish and campy than ME1.

Simple then DOn't buy the game and show you are mad at them.

It also might help if you left the forums as well. Then they'd really know you were mad.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 17 janvier 2010 - 08:04 .

[Arrtis]

i wouldnt leav they do not care that much either way msot gamers who are getting the game arent here in the first palce

[Mox Ruuga]

You true believers are so cute.

[izmirtheastarach]

Arrtis wrote...

i wouldnt leav they do not care that much either way msot gamers who are getting the game arent here in the first palce

It still might help if you did, though.

[Halfheart]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

invert180 wrote...

I think how armour is handled now fits very well with the atmosphere that ME2 has developed. You've gone out to recruit a bunch of badass folks in the galaxy, all of whom have been busy doing their own thing for the past who knows how long.
They're not military. They have their own personalities and their own way of dressing. Just because you've hired them for your mission, doesn't mean you can begin dictating to them what they should and should not wear. They don't seem like the kind of folks that give a damn about wanting to wear shoes that match yours.

Bunch of badasses, more like a bunch of imbeciles looks like to me. Liara and Tali weren't military in ME1, yet they wore armor like everyone else. Not doing so would have made their lives very short indeed.

It may be, that we will not be going on any hostile worlds/environments in this game, expecting Shepard in the very beginning of the game.

Still, there was a lore based reason why shields were not sufficient in combat. Shields and barriers don't protect agains gas, biological weapons, physical melee attacks, extremes of environment, etc. And shields and barriers could be overloaded.

Bioware has compromised their own creation's integrity for the sake of showing off tattoos, breasts, and a fishman chest. ME2 looks far more cartoonish and campy than ME1.

Very well said!

[Apollo Starflare]

Well some of them do still wear armor regardless of what alternative costumes we don't know about yet. Garrus, Tali, Jacob (light), Samara (if impracticle from the front), Legion, Zaeed, Mordin? (It's heavier than most scientist outfits anyway), and most definitely Grunt. Strangely enough the only ones who have been shown without 'proper' armor, are those with biotic powers.



Seeing as mass2 goes down the Barrier=shields route it makes it a bit more believable, especially seeing as plenty of films get away without various characters wearing armor and noone bats an eyelash.



Of course for some this doesn't help the fact they can no longer loot all sorts of random armors (half the time in ugly colours or the wrong armor class) to manually equip to their various party members.

[izmirtheastarach]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

You true believers are so cute.

What is it that I believe? That I like video games? Because I do.

[AtreiyaN7]

Have we seen anything definitive yet? Maybe the outfits are just for aesthetics and the squad mates do still wear armor that won't be visible due to the outfits? Then again, maybe not. Oh well, I'm just going to wait and see. Either way, I don't really give a flying fig about their clothes/outfits/armor. If they want to get their butts shot while wearing civvies or use biotics to protect themselves, that's their business.