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Elvhen Kingdom: Questions and Speculation


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Stella-Arc

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As teased by the summary of The Masked Empire, the next Dragon Age novel, the elves will play a large role in relation to the Orleasian Empire. To what extent remains to be seen. However, if this is the case, then perhaps an outcome of DA:I would have the elves regaining their second homeland, the Dales. While it isn't certain, it got me thinking. 
  • It is mentioned in the codices that many of the Dalish are descended from nobility and as a result, according to them, are the closest to what the ancient elves were. It took me awhile to ask this myself but if these dalish elves are indeed nobility then did the elves of the Dales had a king? or queen? All the major human nations, even the dwarves, have a monarchy. Only the Qunari have a tri-leadership. So, it begs to question, if the elves will indeed eventually get the Dales back (debatable), will they be a monarchy or something else? That is, if they had a monarchy previously.
  • If, and this is a big if, the elves do get their land back, how will the city elves and the dalish get along? These groups are vastly different and while the dalish, according to DA:O, will be ready to teach their city brethren all that they had lost, I doubt it will go smoothly. In my opinion, there could be some sort of civil war in the Dales.
  • While a civil war could result between the city elves and the dalish due to cultural and religious differences, another reason could be whether the Dales should be isolated or open. Regardless if you were dalish or not in DA:O, the dalish in Ferelden will get their own land (which is debatable since it was implied by King Alistair in DAII that things didn't go well *hmph*) and thus might be willing to associate with humans. This could also cause division among the dalish. In other words, civil war. 
I was surprised to find out that not much new information was given about the elves in The World of Thedas (it's amazing by the way) and what was given, we already knew. The only two new things we didn't know was that dalish mages do not deal with any magic that delves closely with spirits (which is confusing because I thought healing required communicating with Spirits of Compassion) and that the dalish believe that their Creator's are locked up in the Black City (which was news to me). The dwarves also got a slight hit while I was impressed that we knew more about the Qunari then both the dwarves and elves combined. But anyway, I digress. What I'm going with this is that, while it's still in the air, the elves, both city and dalish, will collide if they ever regain the Dales. 

To summarize my thoughts:
  • What type of government the elves had during their time in the Dales or could have if the Dales were ever reclaimed, in DA:I or some other game?
  • Do you think confict will rise between the city elves and the dalish? Or there wouldn't be? What would those concerns be?
  • Do you think there will be division on the issue of being closed off or opened to the outside world? 
I would have emphasized more on dalish vs dalish conflict but I can't for the life of me find the quote or text about the dalish not getting along with each other much which is why the Gathering of the Clans happens once every 10 years (and only lasting 3 days). Since I can't, I won't add it to the list. 

These are my thoughts. It's obvious the elves will get an important role in DA:I (hinted by the new DA novel and the importace of the protagonist's humanity) but what are your thoughts on what I have pointed out?

Remember, this thread isn't about whether the dalish are some sort of purist, the validiation of elven immortality, whether the elven pantheon exist or not and so on and so forth. Keep it in relation to the points mentioned above. So, please. I beg you. Don't derail the thread....much. 

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David Gaider

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It is mentioned in the codices that many of the Dalish are descended from nobility and as a result, according to them, are the closest to what the ancient elves were. It took me awhile to ask this myself but if these dalish elves are indeed nobility then did the elves of the Dales had a king? or queen? All the major human nations, even the dwarves, have a monarchy. Only the Qunari have a tri-leadership. So, it begs to question, if the elves will indeed eventually get the Dales back (debatable), will they be a monarchy or something else? That is, if they had a monarchy previously.


I think it would be appropriate to say that the Dales had an aristocracy or oligarchy, as opposed to a monarchy. Whether that resembled what the Elvhen had long before is really in question.

As for the hypothetical of a new elven homeland, how the Dalish have always envisioned it is all the elves coming together and the Dalish teaching the city elves what it means to be elven again. To restore their lost culture and lore. Certainly they see themselves as the rulers in such a situation, though no doubt from a paternalistic sense. Whether the city elves would be okay with that and eager to learn, or whether they would chafe at such an imbalance or find the Dalish attitudes patronizing, is a matter for speculation.