The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
I'm not saying it'd be perfect, nor did I say I would be perfectly fine with it either. I said the Elves might be content with it. And as a note, it's less about the religion/culture paving the way for leadership and more the fact that out of the Dalish and CE, the former are the ones who actually have more practiced leadership. The culture revival is simply a byproduct.
And, as you'll note, I said that there would be CE leaders as well because of the desire the Dalish have to learn from them how to live alongside the humans (some Dalish, anyway). So it would not be the Dalish in total control. Given that the City Elves would have, in the first time ever, an actual voice in a society -- as opposed to just amongst their own tight-knit group -- I'm sure they'd convert.
And I'm sure concessions could be made on the part of the Dalish for at the very least a statue to be built (or remain) in certain areas of Andraste so that they could honor her part in their liberation. The Dalish do in fact honor Andraste, even if they don't revere her.
Hell, for all we know the two religions could intersect and become a new religion, not denying either belief. In that perhaps the Maker created the Creators, who are the guardians of the Elves.
There's always going to be historical errors for nigh-obliterated cultures though, and that's no different for the Dalish. Though I dislike using my Native American (Anishinabe) heritage to prove a point -- not because I'm ashamed of it, but because it just feels like I'm trying to sound like some special snowflake every time I bring it up -- I understand where you're coming from because of what I've learned Native American history itself.
Granted, that was not so long ago, so history's easier to reclaim for it (easier, but by no means easy itself).
I don't even believe everything the Dalish say.
It's perfectly possible you're right, that the Dalish will prove fairly tolerant and the need for the city elves will cause tempers to mellow a bit. It all depends on how much stress the new society faces. If Orlais and the Chantry are acting very belligriently I expect the life for andrastians in any new dales would turn sour quickly... but a century of peace would likely lead to a society that meshes well together, assuming no larger leadership struggles or factional warfare within the kingdomm
The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
As well as the Dalish seeking to have the City Elves teach them how to interact with the humans. This was in one of the codexes.
EDIT: Or maybe it was dialogue. Can't recall. Looking for the source now.
I'd ve very interested in reading this, I hope you find it.
Personally,
I think the Elves would be fine with the Dalish having more authority
then most City Elves. It's not like the Dalish don't revere Andraste
(though simply as a hero for them). And the Dalish do know more about
their lost culture, so it's only natural for them to be in charge.
This, if anything, is precisely the behaviour that would cause city elves to reject the dalish. Noone likes to be patronized.
The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
Which is actually a very wrong outlook for them (the Chantry) to hold.
If venerating your
ancestors is so wrong, then I'll stand upon the graves of all of my
ancestors -- those who fought in wars, those who didn't, those who died
of disease, etc. -- and say "Sorry everybody, seems I'm not acting
accordingly to how people want me to be!"
Mind that venerating and worshipping ancestors are different.
Regardless, religious prosyletization tend to be more about values and the creation of social groups than exact wording in liturgy (though it often looks like the latter). In that sense it's much like politics. Just by advocating that they should not prosetylize you're technically doing the same thing, promoting one value over others. It just happens not to be strictly religious (unless it is?)
One source
in-game even said that when the Dalish and City Elves come together, the
Dalish could teach the CE about their lost culture while the CE could
teach the Dalish about how to live alongside humans.
Is this the same one as above? If not I'd love to be pointed to both.
The Dalish
also have a quasi-permanent settlement in Rivain. Isabela's ignorance
on that could be due to not really traveling to Rivain that much. We
have no idea of how she traveled by ship, where she stopped, how long
her journeys took, etc. while Merrill's lack of knowledge is shown
in-game -- when Thrask asks if she knows Arianni, Merrill retorts with a
smirk that not all Dalish know each other.
Isabela's from Llomeryn, the city where the dalish supposedly live. She reveals that in her romance. One of her monikers is also: "Sharpest blade of Llomeryn", which Zevran gives us in DAO.
That said, that's not saying they don't have the permanent settlement. I've heard Ayesleigh too (but cannot remember where) and it's also possible it's another city alltogether. But it seems unlikely to be Llomeryn itself (makes sense... considering it's on an island).
It's a pity we don't have this in the codex or World of Thedas though.
The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
There are some City Elves
living in Halamshiral IIRC. The fact that there's a city there with its
own smiths (The Summer Sword talks of a human smith living there) and
the Dalish still manage to hold their Arlathvhens there is quite
interesting.
WoT says that 10 years after the fall of the Dales, the Winter Palace was turned into the Orlesian imperial family's and the nobility's seasonal retreat. Essentially making Halamshiral Orlais' second capitol (talk about rubbing it in towards the elves^_^). So there's definantely a significant human presence and has been for 710 years.
The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
As
David Gaider said briefly (and as the games talked about in more
detail), the Dales was actually ruled by a collective council of Mages
with the Keepers (and potential Firsts) drawing their lineage from those
councilmen -- Hassandriel being one of them. However, this does not
mean everyone in the clans is descended from nobility.
Everyone, no. But they probably draw their history and legitimacy from them.
Also... could you point me to where the games discuss this?
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