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[corlist]

- Without choosing tech combo, neither the AIU's nor the Paladin's snap freeze will not increase tech combo damage.
- AIU's snap freeze tech combo works with all tech combos.
- Paladin's snap freeze seems to be fixed and no longer works without picking it.
- Tech combo on Paladin's snap freeze only works with Cryo Explosions.
- Picking 4B (reach) on the paladin's will cause snap freeze it do 2x Cryo Explosion damage when used to prime. It will not increase tech burst or fire explosion damage even if you choose tech combo.
- Shadow's electric slash detonate still does not work.

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*edit* Thanks to tyhw and monkey_crunch, sirian and peddro for the help.

Modifié par corlist, 24 mai 2013 - 05:36 .

[Tallgeese_VII]

Somebody translates this thing.

[d_nought]

Snap Cheese is no longer as cheesy

Before, you would automatically get 2x cryo explosion damage without picking 6b. Now you have to pick 6b.

Also I knew about this before it was mainstream

Modifié par d_nought, 24 mai 2013 - 08:29 .

[koschwarz74]

corlist wrote...

- Without choosing tech combo, neither the AIU nor the Paladin's snap freeze will increase tech combo damage.
- AIU's snap freeze tech combo works with all tech combos.
- Paladin's snap freeze seems to be fixed and no longer works without picking it.
- Tech combo on Paladin's snap freeze only works with Cryo Explosions.
- Shadow's electric slash detonate still does not work

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EDIT: i wonder if it always worked well or there was a secret fix.

"Tech combo on Paladin's snap freeze only works with Cryo Explosions."  how the f***?

Modifié par koschwarz74, 24 mai 2013 - 08:38 .

[Tybo]

d_nought wrote...

Snap Cheese is no longer as cheesy

Before, you would automatically get 2x cryo explosion damage without picking 6b. Now you have to pick 6b.

Also I knew about this before it was mainstream

Then why's your paladin still specced for damage and weakness, hipster:P

[Tybo]

koschwarz74 wrote...

corlist wrote...

- Without choosing tech combo, neither the AIU nor the Paladin's snap freeze will increase tech combo damage.
- AIU's snap freeze tech combo works with all tech combos.
- Paladin's snap freeze seems to be fixed and no longer works without picking it.
- Tech combo on Paladin's snap freeze only works with Cryo Explosions.
- Shadow's electric slash detonate still does not work

data

i wonder if it was always "fixed" or there was a secret fix back then.

"Tech combo on Paladin's snap freeze only works with Cryo Explosions."  how the f***?

It was definitely not always fixed.  Most likely, it was fixed with Reckoning.  But back when we originally tested it, the 2x damage took effect (On CEs) regardless of how SF was specced.

[d_nought]

tyhw wrote...

d_nought wrote...

Snap Cheese is no longer as cheesy

Before, you would automatically get 2x cryo explosion damage without picking 6b. Now you have to pick 6b.

Also I knew about this before it was mainstream

Then why's your paladin still specced for damage and weakness, hipster:P

I knew about it 5 seconds before it was mainstream...

[koschwarz74]

tyhw wrote...

koschwarz74 wrote...

corlist wrote...

- Without choosing tech combo, neither the AIU nor the Paladin's snap freeze will increase tech combo damage.
- AIU's snap freeze tech combo works with all tech combos.
- Paladin's snap freeze seems to be fixed and no longer works without picking it.
- Tech combo on Paladin's snap freeze only works with Cryo Explosions.
- Shadow's electric slash detonate still does not work

data

i wonder if it was always "fixed" or there was a secret fix back then.

"Tech combo on Paladin's snap freeze only works with Cryo Explosions."  how the f***?

It was definitely not always fixed.  Most likely, it was fixed with Reckoning.  But back when we originally tested it, the 2x damage took effect (On CEs) regardless of how SF was specced.

reasonable.

what is better now on paladin? the debuff evo 6A or the 6B tech combo only on cryo explosion, considering i always start with an incinerate, then snap freeze, then incinerate again?

Modifié par koschwarz74, 24 mai 2013 - 08:43 .

[Tybo]

d_nought wrote...

tyhw wrote...

d_nought wrote...

Snap Cheese is no longer as cheesy

Before, you would automatically get 2x cryo explosion damage without picking 6b. Now you have to pick 6b.

Also I knew about this before it was mainstream

Then why's your paladin still specced for damage and weakness, hipster:P

I knew about it 5 seconds before it was mainstream...

I figured Sirian told you, but I always enjoy getting to call people hipsters.

koschwarz74 wrote...

reasonable.
what is better now on paladin? the debuff evo 6A or the 6B tech combo only on cryo explosion, considering i always start with an incinerate, then snap freeze, then incinerate again?

Definitely 6B.  Tech combo is way better

[koschwarz74]

tyhw wrote...

d_nought wrote...

tyhw wrote...

d_nought wrote...

Snap Cheese is no longer as cheesy

Before, you would automatically get 2x cryo explosion damage without picking 6b. Now you have to pick 6b.

Also I knew about this before it was mainstream

Then why's your paladin still specced for damage and weakness, hipster:P

I knew about it 5 seconds before it was mainstream...

I figured Sirian told you, but I always enjoy getting to call people hipsters.

koschwarz74 wrote...

reasonable.
what is better now on paladin? the debuff evo 6A or the 6B tech combo only on cryo explosion, considering i always start with an incinerate, then snap freeze, then incinerate again?

Definitely 6B.  Tech combo is way better

that was my guess too. and how my paladin is spec'd by default.

Modifié par koschwarz74, 24 mai 2013 - 08:53 .

[Alien Number Six]

Is there a thread for broken and bugged powers? I hate wasting points on evos that don't work.

[Deerber]

Dafuq? And since when it's fixed? O.o

Oh well. Great job anyway

[d_nought]

Deerber wrote...

Dafuq? And since when it's fixed? O.o

Stealth patch when Reckoning came out.

I don't know why they didn't mention it.

[Nova-IN]

Rip cheese.

[Deerber]

d_nought wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Dafuq? And since when it's fixed? O.o

Stealth patch when Reckoning came out.

I don't know why they didn't mention it.

... It's not like people would have not liked that 

Any chance there were other stealth fixes?

[RoZh2400]

AWwwwww no more CE cheese....well they're still pretty easy to pull off with an overload teammate.

[Adamziomal]

I haven't played with him since I changed my build to the Fire Shield. Now I have to respec him again. Dammit. But thanks, my build will be better now.

[palmof40sorrows]

It's been a very long time since Reckoning came out and this is JUST now being noticed? I'm a bit skeptical, even with the impressive reams of data.

Feh. Numbers.

Seriously though? Is this for really reals?

I'd hate to burn a respec card if this is just some elaborate troll.

[stysiaq]

Well, the self Fire Explosions are still there though.

In other news, I think that Biotic Slash has the same issue (self fire explosions).

[palmof40sorrows]

Welp, good thing I have a respec card then.

[IxMerc04]

Maybe I'm just a hipster but I always liked the debuff of 6A it seems to work better with a team assaulting a poor enemy. And I didn't notice much difference when I played a few games with him today.

[Deerber]

palmof40sorrows wrote...

I'd hate to burn a respec card if this is just some elaborate troll.

Corlist trolling?

... How long have you been here for, man? 

[TMB903]

Nice work Corlist...I'm not even surprised by this

[didacuscarr]

corlist wrote...

- Without choosing tech combo, neither the AIU nor the Paladin's snap freeze will increase tech combo damage.
- AIU's snap freeze tech combo works with all tech combos.
- Paladin's snap freeze seems to be fixed and no longer works without picking it.
- Tech combo on Paladin's snap freeze only works with Cryo Explosions.
- Shadow's electric slash detonate still does not work.

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*edit* Thanks to tyhw and monkey_crunch for the help.

I'm confused. What I understand while reading:
-Snap Freeze isn't glitched anymore.
-So... as primer and detonator Snap Freeze's Tech Combo works on her?
-huh? So AIU's Snap Freeze is still glitched or what?
-So... only as primer Snap Freeze's Tech Combo works on him?
-I wish it would...

Please, could someone make it clear for me?