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[Arius23]

So lets say hypothetically a shapeshifter gets pregnant.  If the woman morphs into let's say, a wolf, does that mean the fetus will also morph into a wolf as well?

If the woman goes into labor in bear-form will her offspring be born as a bear cub and not be able to revert to human form until he/she learns the skill of shapeshifting?

I must know for personal reasons.  Thanks.

[Wishpig]

I'm pretty sure the child would not be effected by the spell and would most likely die as the body shifts into a totally alien shape.

Modifié par Wishpig, 16 janvier 2010 - 11:58 .

[Linegar]

Arius23 wrote...
I must know for personal reasons.  Thanks.

;D

[Darth_Shizz]

Arius23 wrote...
I must know for personal reasons.  Thanks.

Colour me intrigued. Does your partner dabble as a Spider? 

On a side note. I'd try not to mistake just ANY wolf for a real shape-shifting female. It definitely won't hold up in court...you have been warned.

[Inzhuna]

"I must know for personal reasons."



You're a shapeshifter and expecting a baby?

Lol, sorry, couldn't resist. On topic, I agree with the above, the baby would most likely die.

[Zepheera]

Pretty off-topic, I remember reading a book that actually addressed that issue, the mother could shape shift, but could not shift into a size that was smaller than her human form.

In another book, the mother also had control over the form of the fetus, and had to shift both herself and the baby when she shape shifted.

Please don't ask me for the names of the books, it's probably been a decade since I read them, but I have a pretty good memory for novel details, and I know it was a favorite (meaning I read and reread them a lot at some point) series.

Edit:  I was right, it's a children/young adult series by an author named Tamora Pierce.

Modifié par Zepheera, 17 janvier 2010 - 12:10 .

[Excorant]

Well... I guess the body will be mutated as a whole, otherwise it wont be able to function properly... imagine human shapeshifting into a squirrel for example... the fetus will just tear the shapeshifter apart if it wont transform as well. So yes fetus transforms together with shapeshifter. Now if he is born while in this form, he wont be able to transform back of course because he lacks the skill to do so. Learning shapeshifting will be a solution to get back to human form, but question is if the newborn will be ever able to learn shapeshifting. There can be serious communication problems when raising him... as he wont be able to speak human language etc.

[A_Grey_Warden]

Hmm, never thought about it, good question though; the writers should explain these sort of issues whenever they come up with such fantastical ideas.

Modifié par A_Grey_Warden, 17 janvier 2010 - 12:08 .

[hero 2]

Zepheera wrote...

Pretty off-topic, I remember reading a book that actually addressed that issue, the mother could shape shift, but could not shift into a size that was smaller than her human form.

It's a wierd and maleable enough a topic to fill several books, for certain!

Modifié par hero 2, 17 janvier 2010 - 12:11 .

[Elastic Otter]

Well, if a gorgon can give birth to a warrior and Pegasus...

I s'pose anything is possible...

[Alphakiller]

I would think that the baby animal with a human concience would be fully capable of learning, however, when taught by the mother who knows shapeshifting. the mother simply has to raise the child as an animal until the child is old enough to learn the magic of shapeshifting.

the kid's pretty much screwed if not born with magic, though.

[PetrosS]

I would dare to suggest that shapeshifting (and I'll go as far as saying that all magi skills) would be more of a gene thing rather than a skill thing. I say that because I see magic (in fantasy books, games & such) more like misunderstood science.

So, if I remember correct from school, I would suggest that there are more chances for the fetus to be born being able to shapeshift if both its parents are shapeshifters themselves than if only one of them is.

EDIT: Also, if it was possible for someone to shapeshift then I'm sure that Nature would definitely have an answer for that question, as it often does.  Life is so wonderfully weird and chaotic!

Modifié par PetrosS, 17 janvier 2010 - 12:21 .

[Alphakiller]

here's another question though...

Female shapeshifter... erm... elopes with pet dog after shapeshifting into dog.

goes into labor as a human. what is the child like?

[cpmd4]

The woman may be forced back into her human shape before giving birth...



I don't see how the baby would be the animal shape. It wouldn't know how to shapeshift.

[AsheraII]

Alphakiller wrote...

the kid's pretty much screwed if not born with magic, though.

Wellllll it depends how to interpret something Morrigan said. She said to become a shapeshifter, one had to be a spell caster. BUT, she also said, that shifting shapes requires willpower. So what if someone else cast the spell on you to shift shapes, and you have the willpower to survie, hmm? Technically, you're still not a shapeshifter, though your shape has shifted.
I'm sure anyone can easily find back the specific conversation, and read the exact same things between the lines she said, I found the wording pretty noticable.

[Tirigon]

Shapeshifting is magic, that means usual laws of nature don´t count. The woman can do whatever she wants and it won´t affect the child.

[Daggoth65]

Or due to the way the Magic works it could Also shift the Infant/Fetus but once she gave birth it would no longer be a part of her so the spell on the new-born would then end causing him/her to shift back to a human form if she went into labor as an animal

[Alphakiller]

if magic was seperate from nature (which is technically impossible; if you're going to assume that something exists you must also assume it is part of nature), how do you explain creation magic?

if it's a law of nature, then it applies to everything.

say, though, that magic is a tool to help subvert the laws of nature in a manner that the caster desires at the cost of an expenditure of energy? i'm pretty sure the pregnant woman could control both her and her child's shapeshifting if that's the case.

[Elastic Otter]

Alphakiller wrote...

here's another question though...
Female shapeshifter... erm... elopes with pet dog after shapeshifting into dog.
goes into labor as a human. what is the child like?

"Ox bone" might actually be an appropriate shower gift...

[TheMadCat]

Decent question actually, not sure how it would work. All we need the is man with all the answers to make an appearance though and hopefully it'll be cleared up.

[KCFender]

Witches don't have babies, they steal them, remember?

[Jackimole]

Arius23 wrote...

So lets say hypothetically a shapeshifter gets pregnant.  If the woman morphs into let's say, a wolf, does that mean the fetus will also morph into a wolf as well?

If the woman goes into labor in bear-form will her offspring be born as a bear cub and not be able to revert to human form until he/she learns the skill of shapeshifting?

I must know for personal reasons.  Thanks.

 

*SPOILER*-ish?

Would this be relating to the option at the end?

[sarahbau]

I remember hearing that when Rumiko Takahashi was asked what would happen if Ranma got pregnant, and then changed to a guy, she responded, "I don't think about such things, and neither should you." Basically, what would happen would depend on what the magic designer decided should happen, and they might not have even though about it when making the spell.

[LachlannH]

Incoming bizarre fanfiction~.

[StarMars]

Alphakiller wrote...

here's another question though...
Female shapeshifter... erm... elopes with pet dog after shapeshifting into dog.
goes into labor as a human. what is the child like?

A new race is born - half dogs. could be human with dog's body or vice versa