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[BarrettXM]

My manifest is near completion. I've maxed most of my stuff. My ultra-rares are not near completion but I can't seem to level them up quickly enough because the average Premium Spectre Packs I open now mostly contain armour, weapon and ammo bonuses. Is there any way to get Ultra-rares more often?

[Creator Limbs]

Buy in bulk.

[Trontor]

BarrettXM wrote...

My manifest is near completion. I've maxed most of my stuff. My ultra-rares are not near completion but I can't seem to level them up quickly enough because the average Premium Spectre Packs I open now mostly contain armour, weapon and ammo bonuses. Is there any way to get Ultra-rares more often?

Buy Reserve Packs. They have a 15% chance of dropping ultra-rare weapon locks. But you will have to used to Crying Ammo IV because you will get a lot of it.

[ClydeInTheShell]

Need moar sacrificial asari virgins.

[DeadeyeCYclops]

throw in a few goat sacrifices as well, just to be safe

[kouzrah]

I bought arsenal packs and spectre packs when I ran out of equipment.
But no, no trick for getting more URs. Just spend a lot of credits and pray.

[MegaIllusiveMan]

inb4workingasintended

[ShadowHound]

I literally just spent 2.5 million credits and after ages of not getting anything in the way of an ultra rare, I received the Venom Shotgun, Blood Pack Punisher II, Paladin IX, Collector Adept (maxed), Scorpion Pistol VI, Geth Spitfire II and the Crusader IX. The rest was ammo, rockets and character cards that have been maxed for months.

Modifié par ShadowHound, 24 mai 2013 - 10:07 .

[Cyonan]

There is nothing you can do about it other than just buying a ton of packs.

There's also no evidence to suggest that Reserve or Arsenal packs have a different UR drop rate than Premium Spectre.

[Symbolz]

Getting URs is about having stupid luck and having deep pockets. Prepare to see a lot of consumables.

[ToLazy4Name]

Common sense would dictate no.

[capn233]

The fastest way to max is to spend $10,000 on Bioware points.

[palmof40sorrows]

Cyonan wrote...

There is nothing you can do about it other than just buying a ton of packs.

There's also no evidence to suggest that Reserve or Arsenal packs have a different UR drop rate than Premium Spectre.

[N7Kopper]

Revel in it. I'm in a similar state as you, and see the buildup of level 4 consumables as a great way to springboard into testing myself at Plat solos.

But, nope. No way of increasing UR drop rates. Just get yourself half an extra chance for your money per-pack with PSPs and Arsenals.

[Anders028]

Speed runs with whatever method you feel like doing.

[Innocent Bystander]

Cyonan wrote...

There is nothing you can do about it other than just buying a ton of packs.

There's also no evidence to suggest that Reserve or Arsenal packs have a different UR drop rate than Premium Spectre.

There's no evidence that anything ever described on this forum as "guaranteed" works at all. Only two things can speed it up: speedrunning and cash.

[Trontor]

Cyonan wrote...

There is nothing you can do about it other than just buying a ton of packs.

There's also no evidence to suggest that Reserve or Arsenal packs have a different UR drop rate than Premium Spectre.

Here are my numbers:

10 ultra-rare weapon unlocks in 76 PSPs: 13.2%
8 ultra-rare weapon unlocks in 76 Arsenal Packs: 10.5%
20 ultra-rare weapon unlocks in 132 Reserve Packs: 15.2%

That is good enough evidence for me.

[Swan Killer]

JustAnotherVanguard wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

There is nothing you can do about it other than just buying a ton of packs.

There's also no evidence to suggest that Reserve or Arsenal packs have a different UR drop rate than Premium Spectre.

Here are my numbers:

10 ultra-rare weapon unlocks in 76 PSPs: 13.2%
8 ultra-rare weapon unlocks in 76 Arsenal Packs: 10.5%
20 ultra-rare weapon unlocks in 132 Reserve Packs: 15.2%

That is good enough evidence for me.

And if I did the same, I'd get total different percentages. Random is random. 
It's like somebody is buyimg a Powerball ticket and wins 400 mill for the first time, that means anyone who buys a Powerball ticket is guaranteed to win the next day.

[Kirrahe Airlines CEO]

Bulk purchase my friend. It's what's been helping me fill up my manifest so far. I'm at 35 more URs and I bulk purchase at 3 million. I'm a bloody compulsive spender, so getting to 3 mil is a little tough for me.

[Catastrophy]

Use cash.

[ryoldschool]

The Krauser wrote...

Bulk purchase my friend. It's what's been helping me fill up my manifest so far. I'm at 35 more URs and I bulk purchase at 3 million. I'm a bloody compulsive spender, so getting to 3 mil is a little tough for me.

Yeah, it wont increase your drop rate, but you are likely to get at least one UR drop this way.  It helps keep a positive experience going

[Trontor]

tivesz wrote...

Here are my numbers:

10 ultra-rare weapon unlocks in 76 PSPs: 13.2%
8 ultra-rare weapon unlocks in 76 Arsenal Packs: 10.5%
20 ultra-rare weapon unlocks in 132 Reserve Packs: 15.2%

That is good enough evidence for me.

And if I did the same, I'd get total different percentages.

You are making an assumption. Please provide evidence to back it up.

Random is random. 

No random is not always random. A lottery which always uses the same 49 balls every week is reasonably random. But there is no evidence which suggest that the ME3 multiplayer shop uses a reasonable implementation of a random selection. There is actually a lot of evidence which suggest that it doesn't.

A lot of players have e.g. observed that it is very difficult to max out your Uncommon Gear. That clearly suggest that there is a odd system of pre-configured weights coded in the store system. The description of Arsenal Packs and Reserve Packs (which are both biased towards certain unlocks) actually confirms that the shop isn't purely random. And my observation is that the bias of the Reverse Packs results in a higher ultra-rare weapon unlock rate.

If you want to prove me wrong please provide numbers like mine above.

EDIT: Fixed quoting and typos

Modifié par JustAnotherVanguard, 25 mai 2013 - 12:43 .

[Creator Limbs]

capn233 wrote...

The fastest way to max is to spend $10,000 on Bioware points.

Where can I obtain $10,000? Is it tax deductible?

[Swan Killer]

JustAnotherVanguard wrote...

tivesz wrote...

Here are my numbers:

10 ultra-rare weapon unlocks in 76 PSPs: 13.2%
8 ultra-rare weapon unlocks in 76 Arsenal Packs: 10.5%
20 ultra-rare weapon unlocks in 132 Reserve Packs: 15.2%

That is good enough evidence for me.

And if I did the same, I'd get total different percentages.

You are making an assumption. Please provide evidence to back it up.

Random is random. 

No random is not always random. A lottery which always uses the same 49 balls every week is reasonably random. But there is no evidence which suggest that the ME3 multiplayer shop uses a reasonable implementation of a random selection. There is actually a lot of evidence which suggest that it doesn't.

A lot of players have e.g. observed that it is very difficult to max out your Uncommon Gear. That clearly suggest that there is a odd system of pre-configured weights coded in the store system. The description of Arsenal Packs and Reserve Packs (which are both biased towards certain unlocks) actually confirms that the shop isn't purely random. And my observation is that the bias of the Reverse Packs results in a higher ultra-rare weapon unlock rate.

If you want to prove me wrong please provide numbers like mine above.

EDIT: Fixed quoting and typos

I'm 4 UR's away to max my manifest, so my numbers would not be relevant, so I can't prove you either right or wrong. 
But I just bought 5 PSPs, and I got 3 URs out of them, that's not a bad of a percentage. Now we can start to guess if I would've had the same luck with Arsenal or Reserve Packs, but we'll never know, because it's random. One run of statistics doesn't prove anything. If those statistics came from 5-10 different people, I'd say you're right, but in this case your proof isn't really valid.

Modifié par tivesz, 25 mai 2013 - 01:13 .

[Cyonan]

JustAnotherVanguard wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

There is nothing you can do about it other than just buying a ton of packs.

There's also no evidence to suggest that Reserve or Arsenal packs have a different UR drop rate than Premium Spectre.

Here are my numbers:

10 ultra-rare weapon unlocks in 76 PSPs: 13.2%
8 ultra-rare weapon unlocks in 76 Arsenal Packs: 10.5%
20 ultra-rare weapon unlocks in 132 Reserve Packs: 15.2%

That is good enough evidence for me.

I flipped a coin 5 times, and got heads 4 times. This means that everybody will average heads 80% of the time they flip a coin.

See the fault in the logic?