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Implication of dragon blood as it relates to Wardens, Theirins and Witches of the Wilds


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MisanthropePrime

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I'm replaying DA:O and doing the bit where one goes into the Wilds for blood, and remember Duncan mentioning that the seals on the grey warden chest can only be opened by a grey warden, and of course, Morrigan was able to get them. Now, she claims the magic on the seals wore off, but to be perfectly honest, I don't think there are any examples of magic just "wearing off" in the franchise: ancient curses, veil tears, runes, etc, have a tendency to stick around.

Now, knowing what we know thanks to the trilogy of comics done by Gaider and also World of Thedas, we know dragons are kind of a big thing in the setting... fitting, since it is called "dragon age" after all. Most specifically, the blood of dragons is called the "blood of the earth" by Yavana, a witch of the wilds and one of Flemeth's daughters, and that King Calenhad drank the blood of a dragon during a ritual provided over by Flemeth to become a super-powerful reaver and use that power to unite Fereldan.

Now, while a lot of hullabaloo is made of the Grey Wardens having darkspawn blood/taint in them... we often gloss over the fact that it is archdemon blood that gives them their power, as a drop of blood from an archdemon is used in the joining ritual. And archdemons are... dragons. Tainted dragons, but dragons nonetheless, and it is this dragon blood which seemingly allows them to keep their wits and not become ghouls immediately (perhaps being related to the ability of Archdemons to maintain their intelligence when tainted and lead blights, and also the self-awareness of Disciples). Grey Wardens, then, are theoretically just as influenced by dragons as they are darkspawn.

Now, let's get to Flemeth. Information from World of Thedas specifies that when an archdemon is slain with no grey warden around, their soul/essence/consciousness/whatever goes into the nearest darkspawn and then shapeshifts that darkspawn into another high dragon. Combined with the fact that Flemeth tells Hawke that she may in fact BE a dragon and that her human form is just a shapeshifted ruse- this has lead a lot of people to theorize that she is one of the remaining old gods. The Witches of the Wilds, if they are Flemeth's biological daughters, could therefore also have the blood of dragons in them, much like how Calenhad's blood was passed down to Cailan, Maric and Alistair. If the seal on the Grey Warden scrolls were somehow set to react to the presence of dragon blood in the Wardens, it could be that Flemeth or Morrigan were able to open the seals.

What other similarities could a Witch of the Wilds have to a Grey Warden due to possibly having dragon blood in their system? How would a witch of the wilds react to being tainted, if they could be? There are also two beings in the setting who might have a "double dose" of dragon blood in them, or actually, one who definitely does and one who could have a triple dose. There's Alistair, of the dragon-empowered Theirin bloodline, and also the Old God Baby, who's the son of a potentially dragon-blooded Witch of the Wilds, a dragon-blood enhanced warden, and said warden could potentially be the already double-dragon-blooded (say that three times fast) Alistair.


Some stuff to think about, at least.


EDIT: I just remembered two more things: one, that Alistair's mother may or may not be the Grey Warden mage Fiona, who would logically already have archdemon blood in her system, and two, if the Warden so chose, he could take Kolgrim's offer to drink dragon blood and become a reaver himself, so that could also bring about more implications on the amount of dragon blood in the OGB's system, potentially.

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MisterJB

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The magical seals in "Legacy" used to bind Corypheus were wearing off hence why Malcolm Hawke was coerced to renew them.

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MisterJB wrote...

The magical seals in "Legacy" used to bind Corypheus were wearing off hence why Malcolm Hawke was coerced to renew them.

True, I forgot about those: but one could say that Corypheus was working to disable them rather than the magic fading on its own.

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Jedi Master of Orion

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Was it confirmed that Archdemon blood is not only necessary for the Joining but also the scource of the Grey Warden's powers?

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Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Was it confirmed that Archdemon blood is not only necessary for the Joining but also the scource of the Grey Warden's powers?

Well the joining ritual is a big cup o' darkspawn blood with an extra dash of super spicy archdemon blood. Everything else that gets tainted gets blighted relatively quickly. It seems the difference between "becoming a ghoul in a few days" and "becoming a ghoul in 30 years" is the archdemon blood.

It may not be the sole contribution to the warden's powers (I think there's also some lyrium and unspecified magical woo-woo involved) but it's definitely an important contributor.

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Lotion Soronarr

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Personally I'm sick of dragons, dragon blood and dragon powers.

F*** dragons already.

You have entire tomes of mythological creatures.

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Actually there is another instance of wards wearing off; in The Circle when you run around touching the statues in the right order, have to fight some kind of composite entity/rage demon formed in the fade made from the random thoughts of some ancient creatures.....it was mentioned that wards get weaker over time then as well.

Also Archdemon's aren't tainted dragons, if I remember correctly the development team said that specifically and that a tainted dragon would be something interesting to see.

That and something else that seperates Archdemons from normal dragons, they are male.....though I suppose there isn't a reason why some random dragon drake couldn't be born hermaphroditic or something.