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[Excorant]

DoctorPringles wrote...

You might not care, but Bioware does. They actually want to be successful and sell their game. Remember what happened to GTA when players simply ACCESSED nudity that the developers left in the game, but not accessable? They were forced to change their rating because of nudity that wasn't even a part of the game. You're suggesting Bioware has it several times in their game, but if they did that, as has been said before, they would have been forced to rate it adult and boom, halve their sales.

I'd prefer Bioware was successful with their sales.

Well you just view video games as a commercial product only. I view them as art (some of them). Of course the initial purpose is making money and without it there would be no such great games as DAO, but the developers work as artists and "no nudity" is just a stain on the picture. If you say FPS games are pure commercial, I would agree in most cases. But RPGs have more in them - story, atmosphere, plot twists and such which makes them something of "higher level" or if you want "art" product. Soon the video game models will be so realistic you wont distinguish them from actors in films. And so those video games should be considered same level as films.

Second, I dont think the sales would fall so rapidly as you suggest. On a half? Thats exaggerated. The sales can drop, but not at such level. And as I said, nudity can be an option... like official free DLC on official site if not part of the game package. Even with nudity in DAO sales would be such that it outbalances the costs for making DAO many times.

[Apocalizz]

RageGT wrote...

I was falling for this girl up to the CUT!
Perhaps we should destroy all the Greek, the Roman and Michelangelo's (or the whole Renaissance's) classic sculptures and Art in general. And bring the world to another Dark Age while we're at it, with an Inquisition going around burning those devilish people who enjoy the perfection of what Nature and billions years of Evolution gave us and finds beauty in the whole human body?

Haha...  sorry for that   (I have quite a satisfying relationship though)

I'm just voicing my opinions here, as it's the only thing I can do! I quite enjoy the naked body, in film, and yes even in paintings and sculptures. Oke, I find some body parts more appealing than others, but I guess that's personal taste as well. I wouldn't dare saying that that should be hidden or not enjoyed or whatever! 
_I_ however, am not disturbed by the lack of pixellated boobies and penises in the game. I understand this is a very personal opinion, about where one does or does not enjoy nudity.

[Zenon]

Ginasue wrote...

<<<<< is a mother who doesn't want to see nudity in the video game she is playing.

Then don't buy games with advertised partial nudity. With adult and mature games it should be no problem to show nudity.

I'm surprised you are a mother, who seems to want to see graphic brutal violence, bloodshed, gore on armour... Slashing, massacre, fountains of blood, brutal fighting is ok, but nudity is a no-go? Thats pathetic and hypocrisy, if you care to read my comment.

Sometimes the moral of quite a few US-Americans is mind-boggling. Janet Jackson's "Nipplegate" seems to have gotten more attention than dead civilians of countries where US-troops are being sent.

Modifié par Zenon, 17 janvier 2010 - 03:37 .

[DragonRageGT]

Apocalizz wrote...
Haha...  sorry for that   (I have quite a satisfying relationship though)

I'm just voicing my opinions here, as it's the only thing I can do! I quite enjoy the naked body, in film, and yes even in paintings and sculptures. Oke, I find some body parts more appealing than others, but I guess that's personal taste as well. I wouldn't dare saying that that should be hidden or not enjoyed or whatever! 
_I_ however, am not disturbed by the lack of pixellated boobies and penises in the game. I understand this is a very personal opinion, about where one does or does not enjoy nudity.

That part of my post was not directly addressed to you, as I had noticed that which I quote now, but it's related to what you said. I remember my mother telling us of her early sexual life where she had to be fully dressed for it... The body was ugly and displaying it was a sin! Some people still think like that!

[Kimberly Shaw]

While I don't need or necessarily want any nudity in my RPGs, it is EXTREMELY hypocritical for blood, gore, beheadings, child killing, etc. to be in the game uncensored but have the ladies wear bras while having sex. Part of North American puritan stupidity that nudity is somehow much worse to show than a decapitation.

[Umerai]

Just a quick example, Morrigan.



With 'Morrigan's Robes' on, she has no Granny Underwear, as Feraele put it hehe, then suddenly: Granny Underwear. I'm sure British standards are a bit lower, i've seen many a breast in 15 films. I think Bioware should definitely rework this, or at least make the underwear so as it doesn't remind me of my Aunt Hilda.



*Shudders*

[Ginasue]

I wish you would stop calling it Granny Underwear. I'm a Grandmother and I wouldn't wear what there wearing at all.

[Jae Onasi]

Jaymo147 wrote...

Nudity in games is unnecessary

Bingo.  Who the heck cares about pixel boobs and balls, for heaven's sake?
If you want nudity, go download some paintings of nudes or a photo of the statue David or something, or mod your own game.  I've seen a zillion real naked people working in hospitals, I don't need to see fake nude people in my games.

As for the werewolves, I follow the Mystery Science Theater 300 concept--"It's just a show, you should really just relax."

[Romantiq]

Get mods. Realistic look & Better sex cut scenes.

[Lith Maethor]

eh, i understand why Bioware chose to go for the "granny underwear" instead of full nudity (even though i don't agree with it on most levels) but at the very least they could have gone for something more thematically appropriate (or realistic, as in Morrigan's case), different camera angles or *gasp* ...an option to toggle nudity and/or gore



and yeah, if someone is bothered by the idea of polygon nudity but is fine with all the awesome violence and fatalities in the game... they have issues... lots of them



that said, thank god for mods

[illerianna]

Rambling incoming...



As a (OMG GASP) teenager, I really don't see why people freak out about it so much. The Concerned Mother business is getting old. There is nothing "wrong," or "unholy" about the human body. It is a sack of flesh and organs, just like every other mammal on the planet. I guess having Dog naked is unnecessary too? For the love of the Maker, PUT SOME CLOTHES ON THAT DOG! Video games don't need nudity ASDFGHJKL;D:<<<<<



*ahem* We all know how babies are made. We all know what parts males and females have. It's a natural process, part of human nature.



In DA, the undies are a bit ridiculous. But, I don't blame BioWare, the army of Concerned Mothers lost it after the Mass Effect incident.



All in all, I think some people try to shelter their kids from sexuality too much. No, I am not advocating porn or anything, I'm just saying that education will lead to a less... Failing human race. I actually know a father who said, and I quote, "I'm not exactly sure how babies are made, but I'm sure it has nothing to do with..." (Trailing off to avoid religion and the like)



Right. Get OUT of my gene pool plz.



Plus, the more you shelter kids, the more likely they are to rebel. If a kid wants to know about something, he/she will find out. Most parents I know are too naive to realize this. Your 13 year old daughter is pregnant. Grats. "WAAAAAAT? I only taught her ABSTINENCE! I taught her SEX WAS BAD! SHE WOULD NEVER DO THAT!" Seriously. In my High School, we get abstinence only sex-ed. Guess how that ends?



Anyways, back to DA. Just used mods, nothing about sex will change for awhile. :|

[embrace eternity]

Why hasn't some body flipped out yet about the dog? Everybody keeps calling him boy (I even named mine Achilles) yet when you pet HIM and HE rolls over...well maybe the water was cold?

[BroBear Berbil]

illerianna wrote...

Rambling

Anyways, back to DA. Just used mods, nothing about sex will change for awhile. :|

Well, that's good news. I'm not wanting to see flaccid penises and fake ****** (I thought this in Roman Belic's voice) flapping around in games anytime soon. There's no need for it.

[Zenon]

illerianna wrote...

Rambling incoming...

As a (OMG GASP) teenager, I really don't see why people freak out about it so much. The Concerned Mother business is getting old. There is nothing "wrong," or "unholy" about the human body. It is a sack of flesh and organs, just like every other mammal on the planet. I guess having Dog naked is unnecessary too? For the love of the Maker, PUT SOME CLOTHES ON THAT DOG! Video games don't need nudity ASDFGHJKL;D:

*ahem* We all know how babies are made. We all know what parts males and females have. It's a natural process, part of human nature.

In DA, the undies are a bit ridiculous. But, I don't blame BioWare, the army of Concerned Mothers lost it after the Mass Effect incident.

All in all, I think some people try to shelter their kids from sexuality too much. No, I am not advocating porn or anything, I'm just saying that education will lead to a less... Failing human race. I actually know a father who said, and I quote, "I'm not exactly sure how babies are made, but I'm sure it has nothing to do with..." (Trailing off to avoid religion and the like)

Right. Get OUT of my gene pool plz.

Plus, the more you shelter kids, the more likely they are to rebel. If a kid wants to know about something, he/she will find out. Most parents I know are too naive to realize this. Your 13 year old daughter is pregnant. Grats. "WAAAAAAT? I only taught her ABSTINENCE! I taught her SEX WAS BAD! SHE WOULD NEVER DO THAT!" Seriously. In my High School, we get abstinence only sex-ed. Guess how that ends?

Anyways, back to DA. Just used mods, nothing about sex will change for awhile. :|

+ This!

[Llane Lightbringer]

And there I thought the point of this game was to slay some big, filthy demon dragon... thing.



Apparently it's all about staring at Morrigan's private parts, though. Or the lack thereof.



I stand corrected.

[Harelda]

embrace eternity wrote...

Why hasn't some body flipped out yet about the dog? Everybody keeps calling him boy (I even named mine Achilles) yet when you pet HIM and HE rolls over...well maybe the water was cold?

 Don't worry, there's a mod out now that makes him obviously (or really obviously, depending on your preference) male.

 Then there's one that does that same thing for Ogres.  

 

[DragonRageGT]

Do we know? Really?

How babies are made

[nubbers666]

if every 1 is that desprate for nudity maybe add a paid content for a nude mod make them pay 20 bucks for it this way pepole who want it can have it those who dont can do with out

[Sloth Of Doom]

Ethan009 wrote...

embrace eternity wrote...

Why hasn't some body flipped out yet about the dog? Everybody keeps calling him boy (I even named mine Achilles) yet when you pet HIM and HE rolls over...well maybe the water was cold?

I thought Dog was female.

When is the last time you saw a dog lift it's leg to urinate?

Also, during the game various people call him 'boy'