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Hey, so I build my current PC last year and it was a great experience, but it was a more low-mid end PC for SWTOR specifically and now I'm looking to build a beast, haha. 

I have no budget currently, but I would prefer to spend under 1500$ in total, on the computer itself, Monitor and such can come by later.  

The thing is for me, I'm still very new to what is "good" in the PC communuty and in terms of hardware and I don't want to overspend since I know I'm a noob.  I want a ultra/high-end gaming computer that would last me a few years. So I'm just wondering if anyone can recommend me an overall spec or parts that would be needed - graphics card, processor, motherboard, what works with each other best, etc.  

My old computer was AMD based, but I'm open to NVIDIA and I'd like to hear from others, if possible, on their personal experience.  

Thanks!  

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spirosz wrote...

Hey, so I build my current PC last year and it was a great experience, but it was a more low-mid end PC for SWTOR specifically and now I'm looking to build a beast, haha. 

I have no budget currently, but I would prefer to spend under 1500$ in total, on the computer itself, Monitor and such can come by later.  

The thing is for me, I'm still very new to what is "good" in the PC communuty and in terms of hardware and I don't want to overspend since I know I'm a noob.  I want a ultra/high-end gaming computer that would last me a few years. So I'm just wondering if anyone can recommend me an overall spec or parts that would be needed - graphics card, processor, motherboard, what works with each other best, etc.  

My old computer was AMD based, but I'm open to NVIDIA and I'd like to hear from others, if possible, on their personal experience.  

Thanks!  



With a budget of ~1500 bucks you'll get a very good system.


Now, I'd need to know a view things to make an optimized suggestion as to what a system for you might look like:

Do you perform professional tasks with your PC (video editing, bitcoin mining, etc.)?

Do you already have a monitor and if yes, what's its refreshrate (60Hz, 120Hz or better)?
edit:// Duh, now I see you must already have one and you're looking to buy one if necessary later. Forget this question.

Do you intend to OC your system (mostly important for what CPU cooler and case you'd need)?

Modifié par Neofelis Nebulosa, 25 mai 2013 - 04:10 .


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GPU wise, I would recommend a 670 (Or higher) for the upcoming releases with next gen. The obvious 8-12GB ram. Generally anything quad core (I doubt next-gen games will use more)

Motherboard, I haven't really been paying attention to but I would guess a minimum of 3 SLI slots.

1-2 TB memory.

Water cooling, a good fan and 650 watts minimum for power supply.

Modifié par Mumba1511, 25 mai 2013 - 04:09 .


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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
With a budget of ~1500 bucks you'll get a very good system.


Now, I'd need to know a view things to make an optimized suggestion as to what a system for you might look like:

Do you perform professional tasks with your PC (video editing, bitcoin mining, etc.)?

Do you already have a monitor and if yes, what's its refreshrate (60Hz, 120Hz or better)?
edit:// Duh, now I see you must already have one and you're looking to buy one if necessary later. Forget this question.

Do you intend to OC your system (mostly important for what CPU cooler and case you'd need)?


I don't do anything professional, the only type of editing I do is in relation to music and that doesn't require much, lol.  Currently, I have 60Hz on my monitor, but I'll look to upgrade my Monitor in the next few months, since I'm in no rush currently.  
And I have no experience in overclocking my system, so I don't know where to start in terms of that or how that will relate to what I want to purchase.  

My main purchasing point, is just for high-end gaming and thats about it.  

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A couple last questions:

Are you adverse to SLI/CfX?

Do you intend to use your current OS on your next system too?

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That's basically running two graphic cards on your motherboard, right? And Windows 7.

Modifié par spirosz, 25 mai 2013 - 04:22 .


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I'll just assume you have no problems with Crossfire:


Intel® Core™ i5-3570K
GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD3H
GIGABYTE Radeon HD 7870 OC GHZ Edition (2x in Crossfire)
Kingston HyperX DIMM 8 GB DDR3-1600 Kit
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
Cooler Master HAF 912 Advanced
Cooler Master GX-750W
LiteOn iHES112-115
Crucial M4 2,5" SSD 128 GB
Samsung HD103SJ 1 TB
Creative Sound Blaster Z


That's around 1300-1400 bucks, with kick-ass GPU power, a really good soundcard. You'll good speakers/headset and a 120Hz monitor to really get the benefits though.


edit://
If Crossfire isn't a thing for you, you can just exchange the two HD 7870s with a single HD 7970 GHz. The latter is the most powerful single GPU right now (GTX 780 and Titan excluded, those are simply not in your projected price range).

Modifié par Neofelis Nebulosa, 25 mai 2013 - 04:46 .


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lol 1500$

Just buy GTX 780 + i5-4670k + whatevrs

And stay away from multi-GPU solutions.

Modifié par Rubios, 25 mai 2013 - 04:48 .


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With that current setup, I should be good for a years and current games? Sorry about all these questions by the way, it's just there is so much to pick from, it gets a bit overwhelming.

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Rubios wrote...

lol 1500$

GTX 780 + i5-4670k + whatevrs


What's so funny about the 1500? 

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spirosz wrote...

Rubios wrote...

lol 1500$

GTX 780 + i5-4670k + whatevrs


What's so funny about the 1500? 


Don't mind him, he's trolling right now.

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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

edit://
If Crossfire isn't a thing for you, you can just exchange the two HD 7870s with a single HD 7970 GHz. The latter is the most powerful single GPU right now (GTX 780 and Titan excluded, those are simply not in your projected price range).


I'm willing to spend more, but I'd prefer to be around 1500.  I was looking over the Titan BOOST, it seemed pretty wild.  

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spirosz wrote...

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lol 1500$

GTX 780 + i5-4670k + whatevrs


What's so funny about the 1500?

That it is overkill, imho.

Spending 1000$ and saving those 500$ for an upgrade in a couple of years seems like a much better idea to me.

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

spirosz wrote...

Rubios wrote...

lol 1500$

GTX 780 + i5-4670k + whatevrs


What's so funny about the 1500? 


Don't mind him, he's trolling right now.


You are suggesting a crossfire and all the bull**** it comes with for someone who doesn't even know what to buy and just wants a PC to play videogames without worrying about hardware stuff, talk about trolling.

Modifié par Rubios, 25 mai 2013 - 04:53 .


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Well Rubios, as I stated, I'm still new towards hardware and that's what I stated, I don't want to overspend, but I'm willing to spend a good amount if it's worth it at this time.

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Rubios wrote...

spirosz wrote...

Rubios wrote...

lol 1500$

GTX 780 + i5-4670k + whatevrs


What's so funny about the 1500?

That it is overkill, imho.

Spending 1000$ and saving those 500$ for an upgrade in a couple of years seems like a much better idea to me.

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

spirosz wrote...

Rubios wrote...

lol 1500$

GTX 780 + i5-4670k + whatevrs


What's so funny about the 1500? 


Don't mind him, he's trolling right now.


You are suggesting a crossfire and all the bull**** it comes with for someone who doesn't even know what to buy and just wants a PC to play videogames without worrying about hardware stuff, talk about trolling.


I don't know what your problem is, but multi-GPU support from both ATI/nVidia and game developers has greatly improved from the days of insufferable stuttering and crashes. It runs stable and offers good scaling as long as you don't want to squeeze three or more cards into a system.

Modifié par Neofelis Nebulosa, 25 mai 2013 - 05:04 .


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I would highly recommend the i5 3570k. If you put a water cooler on it you can overclock it to around 4.5 GHz, and even if you don't overclock it should be fine to run almost any game.

This is a pretty bad ass SLI setup very similar to what I have, and I love it:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZUD7
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker....D7/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker....UD7/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Kingston Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($359.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($359.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1364.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-25 13:04 EDT-0400)

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Water coolers are over-priced and over-rated. A good big case with plenty of vans do the job just fine. And before anyone says: "But water cooling is much quieter!" True, it is quieter, but van cooling does not necessarily have to be loud by any means. There are some very good cases with very good vans that do not make much noise at all.


EDIT: Anyway, this is my personal rig, which falls in the price range of the OP:


CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-3770K 3.5 Ghz
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper212 Evo
GPU: ASUS GTX660 TI-DC2O-2GD5
Memory: Kingston HyperX 8 GB DDR3-1333 2x4 Kit
Power supply: Antec High Current Pro HCP-750
Casing: Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced
SSD: Samsung MZ-7TD120BW 120GB
HDD: Western Digital WD1002FAEX 1 TB
Motherboard: ASUS Maximus V GENE


My rig costed me roughly 1200 bucks, but most of that money went to my CPU, because I need the raw CPU power, since I'm a game developer and graphics designer myself. The programs I use can be very demanding on the CPU.

If you want to use my rig as a guidline for yours, I recommend to swap out my Intel Core i7 CPU and replay it for  an Intel Core i5 CPU, which will be a lot cheaper, and still good enough to run all modern games with ease.

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 25 mai 2013 - 06:03 .


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But I have a water cooler AND a case with 8 120mm fans :)

Water coolers aren't anything special, in the sense that you can get air coolers that have the same or better performance. I just like that you have a small water block on the CPU instead of a huge heatsink. It works better in a lot of cases.

When comparing price and performance, water coolers are not really that expensive, though.

But in any case, you should definitely invest in an after market CPU cooler because most anything will perform better than a stock fan.

Edit:

As a personal anecdote, I have the Corsair H60, which you can pick up for $50, and my i5 3570k stays around the low 30's @ 4.3 Ghz. 

Here is the exact system I am running, except for RAM. I am using HyperX RAM @ 1600 but it wasn't on the list.

I can vouch for its compatibility and stability. I haven't had a single system crash and I've never had to play around with drivers or settings to get anything to run at ultimate settings @ 1080p.


PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZUW2
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker....W2/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker....UW2/benchmarks/
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($169.99 @ Microcenter) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM  Liquid CPU Cooler  ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
 Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX  LGA1155 Motherboard  ($114.99 @ NCIX US) 
Memory: Kingston Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  ($64.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V200 Series 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($84.98 @ Outlet PC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($359.99 @ NCIX US) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($359.99 @ NCIX US) 
Case: Zalman Z9 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case  ($53.06 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply  ($104.78 @Newegg)
 Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer  ($14.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1507.74
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-25 14:11 EDT-0400)

Modifié par GodChildInTheMachine, 25 mai 2013 - 06:36 .


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Thanks everyone, I'm just doing some more research and I'll get back at what I've come up with.

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I upgraded my power supply and motherboard, and got a GTX 460, an i5-3570K cpu and 16GB of ram for around $450 plus the original cost of the computer (which I think was around the same). That includes trading in the existing hardware for credit though. But it also includes the cost of installation.  So total spent was around $900. Next on my list is upgrading my hard drive (currently 500 GB).

I have no complaints with my current setup.

Modifié par Degs29, 25 mai 2013 - 08:26 .


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The info here is pretty good. I built myself a new rig a few months ago for about $1300, at least until I decided to give 3D gaming a try which shot that price through the roof ;) Totally worth it though.