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How long until ControlShep goes nuts?


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#26
Asharad Hett

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While being electrocuted, Shepard receives a traumatic brain injury (TBI). You will wish that StarKid was still in control.

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Indy_S

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True. But I believe that their will be merits to cutting freedoms and I believe at some point, Shepard will be seeing these merits over the cons.

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MassivelyEffective0730

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Depends on headcanon for now.

I personally say the moment he is uploaded. His nature and perspective is fundamentally altered due to his new existence as a purely mechanical, synthetic being. 

He holds to his organic ideals for a short while but eventually loses interest in them in time. Possibly after gaining the new perspective and due to his new nature, he may well resume the cycle due to acceptance of his predecessor's problem.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 26 mai 2013 - 04:20 .


#29
Fiannawolf

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If any of my Shep's picked that then ohhh....about 1 hr.

#30
Saito404

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Immediately. Even pure paragon.

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Blade8971

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It could be an avenue possibly for ME4 where either ControlShep goes nuts or loses control of the Reapers. The new protagonist would either deal with ControlShep or help it regain control or destroy the Reapers.

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However long the person who picked it decides it to be.

The trick to peace is respecting other people's headcanons in video games. I think Gandhi said that once.

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AlanC9

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We need an /thread after that.

#34
AresKeith

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After the Epilogue :P

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I completely agree with @Massively Effective.

We only need to look at history to see what happens when so much power is in the hands of one individual. Everytime one man or women has that much power, they start to get "funny" ideas...they begin to slack off of their original beliefs, and than, they make a very bad decision...every once in a while they manage to get back to their original beliefs because they managed to take a step back and look at the larger picture, but there is always the next time that they stay that way.

We must also remember the fact that the people who usually go for that kind of power arent the people who keep people's hearts in mind.

This is why I believe that control is such a bad choice...It is too risky when so much is at stake.

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AlanC9 wrote...

What's the definition of "nuts" here?


When ReaperShep decides to husk-ify some kid for stealing candy from a grocery store, it would be safe to assume that things have gone a little out of hand.

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Depends what you mean by nuts, I imagine. I would say that in the immediate aftermath of the transition, Shepard's mental state would not correspond to what we understand as sanity, since the structural difference between a human brain (and a human brain's sensorium) and thousands of networked, physically autonomous supercomputers in a parallel processing configuration is immense.

In terms of "cracking from the strain," though, I think that's a purely meat-based limitation. If Shepard has a software error, all they have to do is restore from backup. Plus, it's not like Shepard is in solitary confinement, he just doesn't have an intellectual peer to communicate with anymore.

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Megaton_Hope

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Blade8971 wrote...

It could be an avenue possibly for ME4 where either ControlShep goes nuts or loses control of the Reapers. The new protagonist would either deal with ControlShep or help it regain control or destroy the Reapers.

I'd rather not deal with Reapers in a new game, I've had it up to here with Reapers. The only game I missed the Reapers in was ME2, because the whole Reaper thing hadn't been resolved.

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Irrelevant. Shreaper gonna shreap, "sane" or not.

But it is a nice indication of our ability to comprehend "eternity" that people are referring to computers older than they are as if that's in any way proportional to the object of inquiry.

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 26 mai 2013 - 07:03 .


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Well, if the Reapers and Catalyst never once deviated from their initial goals, there's no reason the Shepalyst should. Then again that depends on what happens in the galaxy. The Catalyst kept doing what it did because apparently Synthetics wiped out organics every time, so it was never proven wrong (yes, I know, Quarian and Geth peace. But that only happened because the Reapers threatened them both).

I don't know, it's hard to predict, actually. If evidence comes that gives Shepalyst cause to think the Catalyst was correct, it might just restart the Cycle. Then again, being based off Shep, it might be a bit more patient and give Cycles an actual chance before hitting the reset button on them.

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In my heacannon.... Never, just like it's shown and indicated in the EC.
The EC is "cannon" by bioware, in it were told all is good in the galaxy and everything is being rebuilt.

Modifié par shodiswe, 26 mai 2013 - 07:22 .


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Never.

The idea that power corrupts is a very, very old one, and one that Shepard is no doubt very familiar with. He'll implement a set of checks against it in short order.

In the short term he'll set about rebuilding, doing as much as he can to turn the Reapers into useful moral advisers, recovering as much of the 'preserved' civilizations as is possible, and then raising what remains as any parent raises a child.

In the meantime, he's been made aware of the possibility of synthesis, and while he was unwilling to force it upon everyone, forcing it is not necessary. He'll work with EDI, the Geth and any other AI's to establish the understanding of organics needed there, and with the organic races to lay down the technology needed for full integration.

I'd expect the first willing volunteers would undergo synthesis within an Asari lifetime at the longest, and with 20 years if everything goes well. After their ascension, they'll act as both a check on Shepard's power, companions and advisers. In the best circumstances, his former LI will be among the first.

It's gonna be sweet.

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Once organics begin to advance themselves to the point where they are a credible threat to shepard-catalyst...if he even lets things get that far.

Shepard-catalyst wants to lead/protect everything. Control isn't about commanding the reapers....its about control over the universe

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The Sheplyst will just continue running it's AI code, so never.

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I haven't every picked control so I've never had to head cannon it, but I'd certaintly think about the same time everyone the Sheplyst knew have passed away. Once the galaxy and people no longer resemble the ones it once knew, it'd certainly seem easier to become out of touch. Things would probably go downhill from there.

Modifié par Earthbound N, 26 mai 2013 - 09:26 .


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What makes you think that the entity that is "control-shepard" is even Shepard?
Shepard was disintegrated.
The AI that the Catalyst built was given Shepard's persona, it might even be programmed to *think* its Shepard but it is *not* Shepard.
It is a construct.

#47
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Hadeedak wrote...

ruggly wrote...

minus one


Shepard was crazy the whole time!


CAN I HAZ CHEEZBURGER ? :wizard:

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carrmatt91 wrote...

wouldn't an AI based on a human essentially think like a human though? almost like Lore off Star Trek:TNG, he was designed to be as human as possible and went a bit loopy.

Running on hardware not designed to accurately simulate the mind of a species that didn't even exist at the time it was built, but was built for a very specific job? And had to presumably Heath Robinson some handy electrodes into some sort of scanning device (because it's really unlikely something capable of accurately reading a mind would by conveniently sitting nearby)? No, I doubt it would end up thinking much like a human, a Shepard-flavoured Catalyst is the best you'll get.

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How come you guys keep going to the worst possible conclusion about the endings?

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^ not all of them, just two at the most...