How long until ControlShep goes nuts?
#51
Posté 26 mai 2013 - 01:26
Everything is perfect forever.
#Hurray
#52
Posté 26 mai 2013 - 01:28
#53
Posté 26 mai 2013 - 01:33
Modifié par Liamv2, 26 mai 2013 - 01:44 .
#54
Posté 26 mai 2013 - 01:51
Modifié par Draguno, 26 mai 2013 - 01:52 .
#55
Posté 26 mai 2013 - 02:22
#56
Posté 26 mai 2013 - 03:02
Morocco Mole wrote...
How come you guys keep going to the worst possible conclusion about the endings?
I go to the worst possible conclusion about 2 of the 4 endings.
Refuse is the most pointless to even worry about.
Destroy is the only one where I get less worse. Much of the population of the galaxy is dead, but Shepard lives, along with his crew. The Relays are repaired and repowered quickly, though the Geth and EDI are lost. But with the new tech from the dead Reapers lying around, the galaxy is going to be rebuilt. We're free now from the Reapers. Finally free. The survivors will rebuild, repair, and live. Survivors rule.
#57
Posté 26 mai 2013 - 03:09
......create another destructive religion...........DeinonSlayer wrote...
Old poll, but worthy of discussion:
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Think for a moment about how long eternity is. The Shepalyst will still be around long after everyone (s)he knew and loved has died. Long after the human race has evolved into something unrecognizeable or died out. Long after the sun enters its red giant phase and char-broils the Earth. Nothing will remain of the world (s)he knew. Will there be anyone to talk to? Any connection?
How long until the madness sets in? And what would the Shepalyst do to stave off eternal boredom?
Discuss!
#58
Posté 26 mai 2013 - 03:15
But I wouldn't worry. By then organics would be much more powerful, or just go extinct by their own stupidity. I vote for the latter myself.
#59
Posté 26 mai 2013 - 03:21
All the Catalyst says is that Shepard's thoughts will continue. He doesn't say whether or not his thoughts will become different. All he says is that the Reapers will do whatever he wishes. I believe whatever the Shepalyst wishes for will be no different from what the Catalyst already wishes. He might give them a few centuries or millennia, but somewhere down the line he's either going to restart the cycle or create a paranoid totalitarian system that will become Big Brother to keep the peace.
#60
Posté 26 mai 2013 - 03:40
Morocco Mole wrote...
How come you guys keep going to the worst possible conclusion about the endings?
It's a condition that seems to occur only among Destroyers. In severe cases the subject starts making up stuff out of whole cloth; for instance, believing that Synthesis erases all individual personalities.
As a Controller (mostly) I'm not susceptible myself, and I don't really understand the syndrome. Someone here (chemiclord?) once suggested that it's caused by extreme revulsion at the nature of the final choices, which results in interpretations being distorted in order to justify the emotional response. I don't have a good way to test the hypothesis, though.
#61
Posté 26 mai 2013 - 03:44
HagarIshay wrote...
Billion, more or less. S/he won't be corrupted by power or anything, but might get some technical problems. Nothing's perfect.
But I wouldn't worry. By then organics would be much more powerful, or just go extinct by their own stupidity. I vote for the latter myself.
This was always my take on it. Unless the Sheplyst goes bad really fast, in cosmic terms, it won't be too important if it happens.
#62
Posté 26 mai 2013 - 03:53
DeinonSlayer wrote...
Old poll, but worthy of discussion:
Link
Think for a moment about how long eternity is. The Shepalyst will still be around long after everyone (s)he knew and loved has died. Long after the human race has evolved into something unrecognizeable or died out. Long after the sun enters its red giant phase and char-broils the Earth. Nothing will remain of the world (s)he knew. Will there be anyone to talk to? Any connection?
How long until the madness sets in? And what would the Shepalyst do to stave off eternal boredom?
Discuss!
On one hand, we have the Shepalyst.... On the other hand we have the Shreaper's. Shep's already got a split personality on day one.
I pity the love interest. Imgaine a knock on your door and seeing Harbinger standing there.
"Hey Baby! I'm back to pick up where we left off...... that is...... if you still want me"? <point's behind him with a tentacle to a group of Sovereign classes hangin back nervously> "And them.... but it is me"!
#63
Posté 26 mai 2013 - 04:23
Morocco Mole wrote...
How come you guys keep going to the worst possible conclusion about the endings?
Destroy speaks for itself. Reapers gone. Crewmate and Geth + first example of org/synth harmony.... in defiance of the Cats predictions..... Gone
If it had only been the Reapers Destroy would have been a great ending.
Control? Who wants to be in control of space tanks filled with dead people goo? It's power at the expense of principal. Think back to the argument's Shep made against TIM that ultimately saw TIM blow his head off.
Synth? Its enforced Utopia through physical and mental conditioning. It was not earned but given by a brat who is fast on the way to becoming outdated and obsolete had Shep refused and the next cycle given a crack at the Reapers.
All the solution's have an element of "I don't want that" in them and it's a case of finding the best fit despite the disadvantage the prefered option brings.
Modifié par Redbelle, 26 mai 2013 - 04:26 .
#64
Posté 26 mai 2013 - 04:36
#65
Posté 26 mai 2013 - 04:46
Modifié par erezike, 27 mai 2013 - 12:38 .
#66
Posté 26 mai 2013 - 04:50
He/she goes so crazy, that he/she sends all of the Reapers into a black hole.
I guess that a victory then.
Modifié par Abraham_uk, 26 mai 2013 - 04:52 .
#67
Posté 27 mai 2013 - 07:08
#68
Posté 27 mai 2013 - 07:34
Modifié par TheWerdna, 27 mai 2013 - 07:35 .
#69
Guest_Morocco Mole_*
Posté 27 mai 2013 - 11:10
Guest_Morocco Mole_*
Redbelle wrote...
Synth? Its enforced Utopia through physical and mental conditioning. It was not earned but given by a brat who is fast on the way to becoming outdated and obsolete had Shep refused and the next cycle given a crack at the Reapers.
Okay, I dislike synthesis but I think you guys that fanatically hate it need to learn something about it.
it does not remove free will from the galaxy and force a utopia
If it did, then Wreav would not be gearing up for war in it.
#70
Posté 27 mai 2013 - 11:13
It's caused by rational thinking about them instead of naive acceptance of the unlikely.AlanC9 wrote...
Morocco Mole wrote...
How come you guys keep going to the worst possible conclusion about the endings?
It's a condition that seems to occur only among Destroyers. In severe cases the subject starts making up stuff out of whole cloth; for instance, believing that Synthesis erases all individual personalities.
As a Controller (mostly) I'm not susceptible myself, and I don't really understand the syndrome. Someone here (chemiclord?) once suggested that it's caused by extreme revulsion at the nature of the final choices, which results in interpretations being distorted in order to justify the emotional response. I don't have a good way to test the hypothesis, though.
#71
Guest_Morocco Mole_*
Posté 27 mai 2013 - 11:29
Guest_Morocco Mole_*
MEHEM ones are the worst about it.
#72
Posté 27 mai 2013 - 02:19
I don't know. I think people keep looking at Shepard as a malleable human, but in control, she's code. And a machine. I'm more inclined to think of her as an Asimov robot, complete with a zeroth law that includes "Life" instead of humanity.
#73
Posté 27 mai 2013 - 02:21
Morocco Mole wrote...
I dunno. He has a point. Fanatical proponents of one ending always seem to try their damnedest to make the other endings evil as possible.
MEHEM ones are the worst about it.
I know, Seival and Auld Wulf really try to force synthesis down people's throats.
#74
Posté 27 mai 2013 - 02:30
Morocco Mole wrote...
I dunno. He has a point. Fanatical proponents of one ending always seem to try their damnedest to make the other endings evil as possible.
That's the unfortunate drawback of presenting an ending that relies on moral grayness and individual philosophy: BioWare made this personal. It's less about what Shepard would do, and more about what the players themselves would do in the situation and how their perspective fits with their choice. In order to do this, the execution and evaulation of the story's overall context needs to be air-tight, and it's far from it.
Fantatics are fanatics; there will always be outliers. However, the ending's conflicted design and the way it "provokes" the audience almost demands for that kind of input.
#75
Guest_JimmyRustles_*
Posté 27 mai 2013 - 02:37
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