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How long until ControlShep goes nuts?


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#126
AlexMBrennan

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I love how people use ideas like "rampant/unshackled AI" as if they actually meant something - how does a halo writer's fantasy about how AIs might work prove anything whatsoever about a totally unknown entity like the Shepalyst?
Hell, given that the brain uploading thing is totally unique in ME verse I'd reluctant to compare it even to other ME AIs like EDI.

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IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Never - what you say only applies to humans but the AI entity based on Shepard is obviously not human. Empirically, I'd suggest you look at Godchild - whilst he has strange ideas and morality (mostly valuing potential life over extant life), he still seems quite sane.

sane?Sanity doesn't apply to synthetics


I would whole heartly disagree.... They repeated the cycle how many times doing exactly the same things? looking for an "answer" I guess that settles it, what happened to the Reapers was a bad coding error... got locked into an infinite For'n Next loop

Modifié par Nightdragon8, 28 mai 2013 - 11:41 .


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Heretic_Hanar wrote...

My Shepard who chose control will never go nuts. He will become like the God Emperor of Mankind. Holy, pure, just, simply perfect in every single way.

You better start worshiping him now, or else he'll send Harbinger after your grandmother.


Isn't Harbinger now the Shepinger? What with Shep being an integral aspect of all Reaper motivation's now.

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I don't think it really matters. Civilization will advance. Even with Shepard watching over everything. Sooner or later, civilization will be able to deal with Shepard on the same level.

But after just finishing the game (I chose Control too) I doubt Shepard would ever crack.

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OP, You should add another option in your poll: "The whole concept of Control makes absolutely no sense as presented in the game"

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Never. But, even if the galaxy is mostly peaceful, many of the civilizations may decide that they don't want Reapers enforcing it. I wonder what even Paragon ControlShep willing to do to prevent someone from hacking or destroying him with a Crucible-like device.

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Heretic_Hanar wrote...

My Shepard who chose control will never go nuts. He will become like the God Emperor of Mankind. Holy, pure, just, simply perfect in every single way.

You better start worshiping him now, or else he'll send Harbinger after your grandmother.


Wouldn't it be simpler to just Indoctrinate people who don't worship him?

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The question is: How long until Control Shepard becomes Skynet?

Modifié par Bfler, 28 mai 2013 - 08:31 .


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Hadeedak

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I'm kind of curious about the people who think Shepalyst will crack up after the death of squadmates/love interests.

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If ever there was a choice that was renegade it is control.

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DinoSteve wrote...

If ever there was a choice that was renegade it is control.


If there was ever a choice that was renegade, it was destroy. :D

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Hadeedak wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

If ever there was a choice that was renegade it is control.


If there was ever a choice that was renegade, it was destroy. :D


Keep telling yourself that.

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Hadeedak wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

If ever there was a choice that was renegade it is control.


If there was ever a choice that was renegade, it was destroy. :D


If ever there was a choice that was renegade, it would be Synthesis.

So, there. 

Modifié par dreamgazer, 28 mai 2013 - 10:16 .


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All of the choices were different shades of Renegade. Paragon was refuse.

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Filament wrote...

All of the choices were different shades of Renegade. Paragon was refuse.


50 shades of renegade.

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Filament wrote...

All of the choices were different shades of Renegade. Paragon was refuse.


Throwing the entire cycle under the bus due to an individual moral stance is far from a purely "paragon" option. 

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dreamgazer wrote...

Filament wrote...

All of the choices were different shades of Renegade. Paragon was refuse.


Throwing the entire cycle under the bus due to an individual moral stance is far from a purely "paragon" option. 

By the morality system as it is in ME, it is. Paragon is uncompromising idealism. That happens not to be a viable option in last choice of the game.

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DinoSteve wrote...

Hadeedak wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

If ever there was a choice that was renegade it is control.


If there was ever a choice that was renegade, it was destroy. :D


Keep telling yourself that.


When has killing your allies to complete a mission ever been a paragon option in the games? I can't think of any, I can name quite a few renegade options that do just that though. 

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Eterna5 wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

Hadeedak wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

If ever there was a choice that was renegade it is control.


If there was ever a choice that was renegade, it was destroy. :D


Keep telling yourself that.


When has killing your allies to complete a mission ever been a paragon option in the games? I can't think of any, I can name quite a few renegade options that do just that though. 


When has taking absolute power over the entire galaxy ever been paragon?

"absolute power corrupts absolutely"

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That's rather a silly truism, since there's no way of testing it.

"With great power comes great responsiblity." 

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Hadeedak wrote...

That's rather a silly truism, since there's no way of testing it.

"With great power comes great responsiblity." 


One is from a historical military officer about people in positions of power. The other is from a fictional character about the superpowers of his nephew.

Which one should be taken more seriously?

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Hadeedak wrote...

That's rather a silly truism, since there's no way of testing it.

"With great power comes great responsiblity." 


"if you could do good things for other people, you had a moral obligation to do those things. That's what at stake here. Not a choice, responsibility."

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xlegionx wrote...

Hadeedak wrote...

That's rather a silly truism, since there's no way of testing it.

"With great power comes great responsiblity." 


One is from a historical military officer about people in positions of power. The other is from a fictional character about the superpowers of his nephew.

Which one should be taken more seriously?


Since there's no such thing as absolute power, and the Shepalyst certainly doesn't have it....

Only one is really relevant.

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Hadeedak wrote...

xlegionx wrote...

Hadeedak wrote...

That's rather a silly truism, since there's no way of testing it.

"With great power comes great responsiblity." 


One is from a historical military officer about people in positions of power. The other is from a fictional character about the superpowers of his nephew.

Which one should be taken more seriously?



Since there's no such thing as absolute power, and the Shepalyst certainly doesn't have it....

Only one is really relevant.


Really, complete control of the largest and strongest military force doesn't allow you to do whatever you want?

the only case in which power is more absolute is 1984

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