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#926
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I liked the new episode. There was a lot of development for Clara and a new insight on this new doctor and how he has to work. The dimension monsters are ****** creepy as hell. Not as creepy as the weeping angel but still scary. I'm still unsure what the hell is going to happen with the overarching plot though.


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Disclaimer:

 

This is not meant to disrespect Peter Capaldi. He is fantastic as the Doctor and if anything I hope he does a Tom Baker (last roughly 7 years in the role). Flat out amazing.

 

 

Flatline gave us a glimpse as to what a Doctor Who episode would be like if the Doctor was played by a woman.

So what I'm going to do, is list some archetypes (different approaches to playing the Doctor) and suggest possible actresses.

I hope the next person to take on the role is a woman. Flatline progressed me from "I'd like to see a female Doctor" to "I want to see a female Doctor."

 

You can see my suggestions for a Female Doctor according to archetype in the spoiler.

 

Spoiler

 

Again. I want Peter Capaldi to remain the Doctor for a few years.

However I feel it would be pointless to have this discussion in 3-4 years time, because by then the BBC would have already picked the next Doctor.



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It'd probably be a controversial path (As any break from tradition is) but I've definitely warmed to the idea of a female doctor. I mean, the genius of the regeneration cycle is that: 1. The show can theoretically go on indefinitely and 2. Each new incarnation is a chance to interpret the Doctor differently. Why not a female Doctor? (As an aside, I find the idea of the doctor dealing with becoming spontaneously female after about 2000 years as a male mildly amusing)
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After learning of The Corsair and his/her ability to change sexes between regenerations in The Doctor's Wife, the idea occurred to me that the Doctor could do the exact same thing. I want to see how they'd do something like this myself.


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Who would you pick to play a female incarnation of The Doctor?



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Boy, that's tough. I dunno a lot about British actresses so I wouldn't know where to begin.



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Boy, that's tough. I dunno a lot about British actresses so I wouldn't know where to begin.

I'll make it easier for you.

 

She doesn't have to be British.



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I'd offer some suggestion, but I'm terrible with actors/actresses :P



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I'll make it easier for you.

 

She doesn't have to be British.

 

I don't know, while the idea of a female Doctor is intriguing, it would be strange after having so many male incarnations for the Doctor to suddenly be female. You'd think if the Doctor wanted to be female, he'd have done it long before now, since he's had thirteen regenerations to choose to change his gender? Sure, the Doctor's not particularly skilled at regenerating properly (which he isn't), but he was given the option to pick his next form with the Third Doctor and with the War Doctor, but choose to be male both times?

 

He's also struck me as being a quintessentially male character and that's someone that probably should stay, much like how 007 is never going to be Jane Bond, nor Voldemort is ever going to be defeated by Harriet Potter.

 

Similarly, having a non-British actor play the Doctor would just be weird, let alone a non-Brit playing a female incarnation?

 

The only way I can see it possibly working is if we had a similar alternate universe to that of "Inferno" and "Pete's World", wherein exists a version of the Doctor who's always been female (since the status of the Time Lords in parallel worlds has never been established) or if there was a disconnected potential female regeneration, similar to the Valeyard?

 

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I'd much prefer to see a female Time Lord return to the series either with Romana, the Rani, or a female incarnation of the Master?

 

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#935
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Claudia Boleyn has some interesting choices for female Doctor!



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I don't know, while the idea of a female Doctor is intriguing, it would be strange after having so many male incarnations for the Doctor to suddenly be female. You'd think if the Doctor wanted to be female, he'd have done it long before now, since he's had thirteen regenerations to choose to change his gender? Sure, the Doctor's not particularly skilled at regenerating properly (which he isn't), but he was given the option to pick his next form with the Third Doctor and with the War Doctor, but choose to be male both times?
 
He's also struck me as being a quintessentially male character and that's someone that probably should stay, much like how 007 is never going to be Jane Bond, nor Voldemort is ever going to be defeated by Harriet Potter.
 
Similarly, having a non-British actor play the Doctor would just be weird, let alone a non-Brit playing a female incarnation?
 
The only way I can see it possibly working is if we had a similar alternate universe to that of "Inferno" and "Pete's World", wherein exists a version of the Doctor who's always been female (since the status of the Time Lords in parallel worlds has never been established) or if there was a disconnected potential female regeneration, similar to the Valeyard?

Well, becoming female doesn't have to be something he would have control over. Honestly though, seeing the doctor's reaction to an unexpected gender bending regeneration is part of the appeal for me. :D That said, I don't think being male is necessarily any more quintessential to the doctor's character than any of the other things that can change about him between regenerations. It might seem that way simply because it's never been done before, but the Doctor isn't like James Bond or Harry Potter, that he changes (And yet remains the same) between incarnations is part of his character.

As for a non-Brit portrayal... I'm all for branching out, but let's take one thing at a time, eh?
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I discovered a very bizarre theory about why Peter Capaldi's face being present three times in the Doctor Who universe.

Of course I'm sticking with the "it's a coincidence and there are lots of people with the same face, height and in come cases similar voice." theory.

 

However TARDISArchives's theory has potential for an interesting plot, whereas my theory is going nowhere.

I know I have basically become that guy who posts Youtube videos, but no one has complained about this. Yet...

 



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Spoiler

 

 

What do you think of this episode? 

What do you think is going to happen in the next episode?



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I thought it was a pretty crap episode tonight. That is all.



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I thought it was a pretty crap episode tonight. That is all.

 

I'm disappointed, because I expected more to be done with that concept.



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Well, becoming female doesn't have to be something he would have control over. Honestly though, seeing the doctor's reaction to an unexpected gender bending regeneration is part of the appeal for me. :D That said, I don't think being male is necessarily any more quintessential to the doctor's character than any of the other things that can change about him between regenerations. It might seem that way simply because it's never been done before, but the Doctor isn't like James Bond or Harry Potter, that he changes (And yet remains the same) between incarnations is part of his character.

As for a non-Brit portrayal... I'm all for branching out, but let's take one thing at a time, eh?

 

Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, a Female Doctor is a fascinating idea, but they'd have to do it particularly well for me to convinced that it could work?

 

I think my reasoning for why the Doctor strikes me as being more of a male character is due to his beginnings as a grandfather, as well as most of his subsequent regenerations having him take a fatherly role to his companions to one degree or another. Of course, Mickey's reaction in "School Reunion" upon learning that the majority of the Doctor's companions have always been young women ("Yeah, he's a bloke!") is probably equally as valid of a reason as well!

 

:lol:

 

I discovered a very bizarre theory about why Peter Capaldi's face being present three times in the Doctor Who universe.

Of course I'm sticking with the "it's a coincidence and there are lots of people with the same face, height and in come cases similar voice." theory.

 

However TARDISArchives's theory has potential for an interesting plot, whereas my theory is going nowhere.

 

My theory is similar, but a little different.

 

In "Fires of Pompeii", the Doctor is forced to trigger the eruption of Vesuvius and in so doing, lead to the destruction of Pompeii and nearly all of it's inhabitants. After doing so, he initially refuses to save even one man, before relenting to Donna's plies and coming back to rescue Caecilius and his family.

 

In "Children of Earth", Frobisher was one of the many politicians initially aiding the 456, only to discover that they may want his family and deciding to perform pater familicide to "save" them, an action that ultimately proved pointless, when Jack destroyed the 456, but at the cost of his own grandson.

 

In the former, the Doctor was fully prepared to let Caecilius' family die horribly at first, while in the latter, he could have easily intervened to defeat the 456, but chose to leave Earth to their own devices and in so doing, lead Frobisher to murder his entire family and kill himself, as well as the death of Jack's grandson.

 

I think the Twelfth Doctor subconscious chose the face because it reminded him of those mistakes in judgement, his refusal to intervene on occasion or the danger of losing his "humanity". This seems to be something the Twelfth Doctor in particular seems to struggle with, being somewhat cold and aloof compared to Ten and Eleven, and similarly to "Children of Earth", refusing to act in "Kill the Moon" and instead letting humanity decide whether or not to follow the better angels of their nature... which the Earth going dark shows that they didn't (again).

 

I think Twelve chosing that particular face is a reminder of the dangers of inaction, as well as the times he's gone too far in the role of Time Lord and forgotten to remember that the man underneath. The Time Lords were infamous for sitting back and refusing to act, while the Doctor's always strove to do the right thing and help people. It's probably no coincidence that most of the time's we've seen the Doctor exert his authority as a Time Lord, it's tended to lead to morally dubious actions from him.

 

Spoiler

 

 

What do you think of this episode? 

What do you think is going to happen in the next episode?

 

Yeah this episode was not particularly great.

 

Spoiler

 

:huh:



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As Doctor Who fans, I am pretty generous.

I have rarely watched a Doctor Who story from both Classic and New Who that didn't excite me.

 

I tend to throw out 8's and 9's all over the place.

For me the lowest points of New Who are the stories with the Master.

 

You have John Simm as The Master and you still manage to mess it up.

Heck one Master story had Wilf as a companion, and it was still terrible.

 

P.s. it would be nice to see Wilf as a companion (but in a better story).

[I didn't see your image. It didn't load. Sorry Sifr, I'm sure it was a funny image].



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[I didn't see your image. It didn't load. Sorry Sifr, I'm sure it was a funny image].

 

The link broke, dang! It was a parody of the Ancient Astronauts meme, since "I'm not saying it was Aliens... but it was Aliens!" suits Wilf like a glove!

 

:lol:



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Just stopping in to say... Not a fan of the forest episode :( I don't like it when they turn the episode into a blatant Public Service Announcement. Bad memories of that one Star Trek film...

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Just stopping in to say... Not a fan of the forest episode :( I don't like it when they turn the episode into a blatant Public Service Announcement. Bad memories of that one Star Trek film...

 

Which message? Don't burn down our trees or stop medicating our children? 



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Just stopping in to say... Not a fan of the forest episode :( I don't like it when they turn the episode into a blatant Public Service Announcement. Bad memories of that one Star Trek film...

4 or Insurrection?

 

Because there's only one right answer.



#947
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4 or Insurrection?
 
Because there's only one right answer.

I only know that I mentally refer to it as "Star Trek: Save the Whales"

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I only know that I mentally refer to it as "Star Trek: Save the Whales"

Oh, so the wrong answer it seems. That's a shame.



#949
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Mediocre episode. It's not as bad a dinosaurs on a spaceship but still pretty poor. It feels like it was supposed to be a 2 parter and got condensed into one at the last minute. The next episode looks good like amazing though so I can forgive it this time.



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I like how they were using the camera towards the beginning of the episode. That was my favorite part about it. The picture quality & camera style has changed greatly since Eccleston kicked the new series off. I kind of prefer how the show used to look with the past Doctor's compared to Smith's last couple series & current.