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[Dio Demon]

Plaintiff wrote...

If DA3 is awful, I'll turn into an insufferable twit who abuses Bioware staff in the forums, and accuse anyone who claims to enjoy DA3 in any respect of being blind, mentally deficient "sheeple".

I will declare myself the voice of the "true fans", and demand that Bioware staff listen only to me. I will insist that purchasing their games gives me the right to dictate the creative direction and business practices of Bioware and EA.

Hmm, I think I've heard that before. Don't you also argue that if the next game doesn't meet your specific specifications that you'll boycott BioWare, despite it being the fifth time you've made this ultimatum?

[UnderlAlDyingSun]

Plaintiff wrote...

If DA3 is awful, I'll turn into an insufferable twit who abuses Bioware staff in the forums, and accuse anyone who claims to enjoy DA3 in any respect of being blind, mentally deficient "sheeple".

I will declare myself the voice of the "true fans", and demand that Bioware staff listen only to me. I will insist that purchasing their games gives me the right to dictate the creative direction and business practices of Bioware and EA.

So basically you'll fit right in with the rest of the community, STAY YOU! 

It will suck, again like I said. The DA games some how end up being the worst first/third person shooter / platformer/ racing game hybrids on the market.

Judging from the Tal Vashoth characters, one can pretty much figure out that they actual mislabeled it. Dragon Age 2 was actually supposed to be Animal Planet for Kinect. Dragon Age Origins, again based on dwarves, was actually an erotic fetish DVD filmed in Simi Valley codenamed Lord of the incredibly short men with incredibly long dongs "

I'm uncertain what the future holds for the franchise, but evidently everything people talk about in relation to these "games" on the site is just people reading between the lines

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

tbh if its awful I just won't buy it, as I won't be preordering it or buying it on day of release, I will wait for fan reviews, because if Bioware has thought me one thing its to never buy a game that has just come out and to read alot of fan reviews before you buy it. Oh and never trust a review from IGN.

Modifié par DinoSteve, 27 mai 2013 - 09:30 .

[Iron Star]

I'd probably mope some, but since I loved DAO, and Thesas in general, I'd keep the game simply so I can load my (perfect) save-file over to the next game when it's released, in hope that it'll be a better experience. That's what I did with DAII.

It'd have to be absolutely terrible for me to quit dragon age.

[Petiertje]

XM-417 wrote...

If the ending involves the PC mysteriously disappearing again.

^this^ it's the third game in the series now, it's time to finish some lose ends, and come up with a new one;)

Otherwise i'm not sure what they have to do or not, to make the game awful for me.
Maybe if they let the two handed swords be as giant as they are in DA 1 and 2. or maybe i just stick to single handed swords i guess.
Guess i have to play the game and find out.

[Shevy]

I think I would drop the series, although I really like the universe in general, the games are the core parts for me and if it would be another DA II for me, I would very likely leave.

What can possibly ruin it for me? Having a passive/naive/uninteresting protagonist again, lack of customization.

[MstrJedi Kyle]

I would say a god child would ruin it, but that would actually make sense this time around....

[Urgon]

If it sucks, it sucks. No big deal. I'll propably stop playing Bioware games altogether,as it will mean they are changing direction. The only Bioware games i have played are BG series, NWN, and DA series. The others i didn't bother because i didn't liked them from the little i tried. If DA3 moves in a ME direction, then the games Bioware wants to make aren't my cup of tea. That doesn't makes them objectively bad.
The only caveat in that is that as Sylvious said, if i agree with their design desisions but they screw the execution.

[Plaintiff]

Crazy Eyed One wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

If DA3 is awful, I'll turn into an insufferable twit who abuses Bioware staff in the forums, and accuse anyone who claims to enjoy DA3 in any respect of being blind, mentally deficient "sheeple".

I will declare myself the voice of the "true fans", and demand that Bioware staff listen only to me. I will insist that purchasing their games gives me the right to dictate the creative direction and business practices of Bioware and EA.

Hmm, I think I've heard that before. Don't you also argue that if the next game doesn't meet your specific specifications that you'll boycott BioWare, despite it being the fifth time you've made this ultimatum?

I also assume that I am the centre of the universe, and that every change wrought on the series is a deliberate attempt by Bioware to personally insult me. I call each of these changes a "slap in the face".

[Silfren]

The Wolf Man wrote...

 I'm sure many folks will love it. I'm pretty sure I will. But consider this hypothetical: what if the game is a big disappointment to you? I'm not asking, "What if the game flops with everyone?" I'm asking about you. What if *you* just don't like it? What do you plan to do? Negative reviews? Keep the game vs. return/sell the game? Hold onto the game and wait for dlc? Write to Bioware? Write to EA? 

Also, what would completely ruin the game for you? 

I suppose if I really didn't like the game, I'd return it. Then I'd post my review (I write them regardless of good or bad experiences...). If the content was bad enough, I might address the company, but that would depend on what aspect of the game needs improvement. 

If perchance I didn't like DA3, my response would depend on just why I didn't like it.  It's entirely possible for a person to dislike a game for no other reason than it was just not the game for them, regardless the game's quality.  For me, story is king.  If the story is great, it would take the game being damn near unplayable (on the PC) for a great story not to be enough to make me keep playing.

If the story is bad, I'm just not going to care.  I'd probably play the game all the way through the minimum number of times to get the full story and any major variations, but that would be it. 

Beyond that, I find a question like this pointless to ask, really.  There's so many variables in what makes a game that nobody could say with any fairness what would make them hate a game before they've even played it.  What worked for DA2 may not work in DA3, and what did NOT work for DA2 may well work very well in DA3.  It depends on how all the different factors fit together, not just on how they do on their own.

[jstme]

Since i am planning to buy it long after release to check player reviews first, if i still buy it and it sucks - it will be my fault. Will do just what i did with DA2 - not play that horrible thing again. **** about it a bit when its mentioned.
No "retaking Dragon Age".

[Welsh Inferno]

What would ruin it for me? See all the problems with DA2. Ruining my favorite characters from previous games or simply having another completely dull protagonist would be the worst.

Its a make or break game for me with regards to BW games. I like the world they have created but I cannot continue to play something I don't enjoy just cause I like certain characters & love Origins. So I'll be dropping this series if its awful. Hopefully that's not the case though.

[Gorguz]

The da2 combat system. It is HORRIBLE. Most of the enemies don't use abilities and the battles are entertaining (not funny) only because there are a lot of foes and  the PCs move cool. The mages use always the same 3 spells and they teleport (they shouldn't be able to do that, according to the lore). The elite warriors use only 3 abilities too, same for the thieves. Just dragons and bosses are almost fine.
In the first game, any enemy use a good ammount of abilities. An emissary could kill your characters with a single spell, demons and undeads use spells in a lore friendly way. The battles were much more funny.
But bioware know what's wrong in the second game. They have already tried to fix the issues in the dlcs, and they partially succeed.

[Silfren]

jstme wrote...

Since i am planning to buy it long after release to check player reviews first, if i still buy it and it sucks - it will be my fault. Will do just what i did with DA2 - not play that horrible thing again. **** about it a bit when its mentioned.
No "retaking Dragon Age".

I don't personally understand the logic of relying on reviews to decide whether you'll want to play a game.  If you buy the game and decide that you personally don't like it, it won't be the fault of anyone  It'll just mean you didn't like the game.  Fault doesn't enter into it. 

There were people who loved DA2 and didn't have an issue with what many people thought of as its deal-breaker faults.  And no, it isn't because those people are too simple or too stupid to know better.  Likewise, there have been people who did NOT like Origins, and again it isn't because they somehow lack proper gamer credentials. 

A game is never good or bad in any objective sense, a fact that way too many people on these forums fail to grasp.  Even taken separately on their own merits, various aspects can't be said to be objectively good or bad, either, because there are always going to be people who liked a given feature, no matter how loudly and angrily its detractors rail against it. 

I enjoyed DA2.  Yes, I see it as having several problems, some of which were pretty major.  But I still enjoyed it, very much, enough to play it several times.  If I had relied on player reviews--especially the vocal majority on these forums--I'd have missed out on something I personally enjoyed. 

Modifié par Silfren, 27 mai 2013 - 03:18 .

[Mummy22kids]

Honestly I don't think anything could "ruin" it for me. I've been pretty happy with all the bioware games I've played so far (even DA2 and ME3). I take each on its own merits and will probably do the same with this one.

[Sanunes]

If the game is too much like either Dragon Age: Origins or Dragon Age 2 for both have their issues that make it feel like a chore to play at times.

[thebigbad1013]

The desire to make some kind of reference to the horrible ME3 ending aside, I can't really think of any one thing that would absolutely ruin the game for me.

[jstme]

Silfren wrote...

jstme wrote...
Since i am planning to buy it long after release to check player reviews first, if i still buy it and it sucks - it will be my fault. Will do just what i did with DA2 - not play that horrible thing again. **** about it a bit when its mentioned.
No "retaking Dragon Age".

I don't personally understand the logic of relying on reviews to decide whether you'll want to play a game.  If you buy the game and decide that you personally don't like it, it won't be the fault of anyone  It'll just mean you didn't like the game.  Fault doesn't enter into it. 
There were people who loved DA2 and didn't have an issue with what many people thought of as its deal-breaker faults.  And no, it isn't because those people are too simple or too stupid to know better.  Likewise, there have been people who did NOT like Origins, and again it isn't because they somehow lack proper gamer credentials.  
A game is never[/u] good or bad in any objective sense, a fact that way too many people on these forums fail to grasp.  Even taken separately on their own merits, various aspects can't be said to be objectively good or bad, either, because there are always going to be people who liked a given feature, no matter how loudly and angrily its detractors rail against it.  
I enjoyed DA2.  Yes, I see it as having several problems, some of which were pretty major.  But I still enjoyed it, very much, enough to play it several times.  If I had relied on player reviews--especially the vocal majority on these forums--I'd have missed out on something I personally enjoyed.  

Of course ,it is subjective if you would like something or not. But you can get a decent picture of strong and weak points of any product by looking at large enough sample of people that bought it. With that information one can make sufficiently accurate prognosis whether the product will eventually speak to him/her or not.
It works for hardware,shoes ,literature,movies and even for highest form of art - for video games. Again,given that the number of people that left their impressions is large, otherwise it is indeed pointless.

As for fault - releasing rushed sub-par product is the fault of manufacturer. Whether it is video game, book or toaster.
One still might enjoy poorely prepared steak because he absolutley loves meat and can overlook few major flaws - like steak being too raw and prepared using oil that was reused hundreds of times and  there is too much unfitting spices,but it is still restaurant fault for making it such. 
But if you read reviews of hundreds of diners and most state similar flaws that you know you would hate - and then go to that restaurant,order that steak and (oh wonder) hate it,it is indeed your fault.

[OH-UP-THIS!]

OP to answer your question directly.................if E/A has anything what-so-ever to do with it.

[jaydip1985]

What Would ***RUIN*** DA3 For You? easy threads like this

[Chewin]

If the game yet again centers around contrived, unexplained supernatural threats and ancient evils that works as blatantly obvious plot devices, then I would have no interest in the game.

I'd want BW to focus on what they exactly they want to tell, and have a consistency with their themes they want to portray, which is something both DA2 and ME3 failed at. I would also want for BW to have a more proactive protagonist, who is surrounded by strong characters who are not in a desperate need of the PC and can actually do something on their own (and not deliberately making the protagonist the 'centerpiece' of the the setting). Political intrigues would also be a nice addition, especially considering the--most likely--setting, but I doubt in BW's abilities to write something as coherent as that, so I very much doubt it will happen.

Modifié par Chewin3, 27 mai 2013 - 04:23 .

[Medhia Nox]

I think the "worst" Bioware could do is make a lackluster story incongruent with my interests.

But I kinda think they're going to go that way anyway - so I'm prepared.

But I loathed DA 2's storyline for all of a week after I finished it - then it's on to the next game. So it's hardly like I would lose interest in the next RPG after DA:I or anything.

[Urgon]

Silfren wrote...

jstme wrote...

Since i am planning to buy it long after release to check player reviews first, if i still buy it and it sucks - it will be my fault. Will do just what i did with DA2 - not play that horrible thing again. **** about it a bit when its mentioned.
No "retaking Dragon Age".

I don't personally understand the logic of relying on reviews to decide whether you'll want to play a game.  If you buy the game and decide that you personally don't like it, it won't be the fault of anyone  It'll just mean you didn't like the game.  Fault doesn't enter into it. 

There were people who loved DA2 and didn't have an issue with what many people thought of as its deal-breaker faults.  And no, it isn't because those people are too simple or too stupid to know better.  Likewise, there have been people who did NOT like Origins, and again it isn't because they somehow lack proper gamer credentials. 

A game is never good or bad in any objective sense, a fact that way too many people on these forums fail to grasp.  Even taken separately on their own merits, various aspects can't be said to be objectively good or bad, either, because there are always going to be people who liked a given feature, no matter how loudly and angrily its detractors rail against it. 

I enjoyed DA2.  Yes, I see it as having several problems, some of which were pretty major.  But I still enjoyed it, very much, enough to play it several times.  If I had relied on player reviews--especially the vocal majority on these forums--I'd have missed out on something I personally enjoyed. 

There is no excuse except braindamage to depent on reviews, especially if you plan to wait and see how it come out. Just watch part of a let's play to see for yourself how the general gameplay is, and then view the reviews(from people who trust their tastes and not game journalists) to understand the general view for the game.
You can still go wrong, but way more difficult than listening to EA hype machine.