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Since the OP changed the title to something a little more specific, I'll correspond properly this time:

Auto-dialogue
Forced emotion
Two-choice dialogue wheel
Inconsistent narrative

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if a starchild suddenly appears and suddenly appears and reveals he is the ultimate arc-demon and is in control of all darkspawn and the only way to defeat them permanently is to synthesize with them destroy all non-human life or take his place as the ultimate arc-demon

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Can I assume most of these responses means you all will be waiting for reviews first? :lol:


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Yet "everyone" loved playing as human, since over 80% played Human in DAO. 

Sure it doesn't justifie removing the option, but if they want to put money on other aspects that they feel are more important, then they will sacrifice it.

I don't think it's so much that people liked or even enjoyed it. I think it's that most players pick the default option and just go with it.

Telemetry can't tell them why someone chose to play as a human, or why they didn't finish the game, only that it happened. Many people made characters that didn't make it past Ostagar. What is the reason for this? Did they want to see all of the origin stories? Probably. Did they wait until getting in the clear daylight of Ostagar to get a decent look at their character before deciding to remake him/her? Possibly. Did they feel they had made some "mistake" and desire to start fresh? Maybe. Was Dragon Age: Origins so damn boring that the prospect of going farther as a Grey Warden was too much to bear? Perhaps. The point is that we don't know any of these things. Even an entire thread of people in agreement on the BSN about some issue doesn't mean that the entire playerbase shares that view. The BSN is not an accurate sample because this is a niche group.

Modifié par nightscrawl, 28 mai 2013 - 05:20 .


#204
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no race selectiob, multiplayer, and non playable origins............wait a minute.

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A game like ME3so : autodialogues, bad ending(that i will watch on YouTube before i even buy the game), stupid plot, meaningless choices both in the actual game and the impact of the ones made in the past DA, cut the story to make more money(Omega, Leviathian, Citadel DLC)......in short everything wrong with ME3, that would definetely ruin it for me

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@archangel 1996

you do know that you just described bioware's next two games right?

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A mindless hack 'n' slash game with streamlined/dumbed down RPG elements with auto-dialogue. Oh and a bad ending, again.

And pandering to fanboys with stupid DLC (Citadel), again.

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If, on the eve of an important battle, Duncan bursts up from the grave in a tutu, runs up to our protagonist, whispers in our ear, "I'm the swan queen", and bursts out into dance around the camp.Templars and soldiers alike start banging their armor to a beat, elves bust out flutes and start playing, Flemeth and Morrigan come out in hula girl outfits and start tangoing together.... That would ruin DA3 for me.

Perhaps I am such a big Dragon Age fan that I can't think of anything that would ruin it for me. I can think of things that would upset me more or less, sure. I was fine not seeing Morrigan in DA2, but to not find out at least a little more about what happened to her would pull at my heart strings. (Luckily it's been confirmed that Claudia Black, her VA, recorded dialogue for the game, so I'm content.) Also, I've been so excited by the team mentioning that our Warden and Hawke might make a cameo, whether in the flesh or by rumors/people mentioning them, that I'm sure I'd be disappointed if it didn't happen in DA3. But as long as the team keeps doing what they're doing, especially with all of the enhancements to DA3 as we've heard such as the engine running it, I am more than certain that I'll be a happy Inquisitor.

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For me, what would ruin DA3 for me is it simply not being fun to play.

I don't really care about lot of the stuff DA3 is going to do and I don't need to in order to have a good time. If DA3 can be entertaining and provide a fun experience then it isn't ruined for me. That said if it fails to be a fun game you can expect me to mention why when it is released

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motomotogirl wrote...

3. If they went back to silent PC. This is not going to happen though.


Lol, I liked the silent PC. I read the dialogue in my head, in my own voice. Very immersive for me. :-) 

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The Wolf Man wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

3. If they went back to silent PC. This is not going to happen though.


Lol, I liked the silent PC. I read the dialogue in my head, in my own voice. Very immersive for me. :-) 


To each their own really, I never liked the silent pc cause he never had any emotions, no facial expression either. 

While Hawke had some emotions and some facial expressions. 

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The_FenixV wrote...

The Wolf Man wrote...

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3. If they went back to silent PC. This is not going to happen though.


Lol, I liked the silent PC. I read the dialogue in my head, in my own voice. Very immersive for me. :-) 


To each their own really, I never liked the silent pc cause he never had any emotions, no facial expression either. 

While Hawke had some emotions and some facial expressions. 

 

Yeah I see the pros and cons to both. I'm not against voiced PC whatsoever. I just enjoyed the silent PC, too. :-) 

Modifié par The Wolf Man, 28 mai 2013 - 07:39 .


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Qistina wrote...

I want to add my list..

iv. if the game is about sex

v. if the game is pursuing to sex the companions

vi. if the game is about romance then sex

it will ruin the game


But what about the blob? You know, the "blob blob!" 

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If I'm displeased with DA3, then most likely I'll write a list of things I did or didn't like. From there I'll proceed to venture & experience other games on the market.

As for what possible elements that may ruin my experience in DA3 will be listed, as well as a number beside the written dialogue rating my disappointment level on a scale through 1-10 (10 being the worse):

8- Excessive reusable environments.
10 -Dead characters coming back to life.
6 -Pointless or poor designed side quest.
10 -The player's decisions not mattering or impacting the game.
7 -A certain degree of fan service being contributed potentially harming the final product.
7 -Lack of immersion from its storytelling & surroundings.
5 -Bad A.I.

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An unsatisfying ending. I liked DA2 for all its flaws and i loved ME3.. until those last fateful minutes. I actually felt my passion for the franchise die when i got the three choices. My point is, an unsatisfying and out of place element steamrolling you at the summit of a great experience would certainly muck things up for me. Another thing would be a simplistic storyline, and im talking Disney-simple here. Also, generally dumbing it further down wold also not be welcome.

Modifié par ghost_ronin, 28 mai 2013 - 08:13 .


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Hawke_12 wrote...

kinderschlager wrote...

well that just pisses me off, no one asked for a single race. far as i can recall, everyone loved the ability to choose you origin (kinda the premise of the game that set up the entire series, no?)


Yet "everyone" loved playing as human, since over 80% played Human in DAO. 

Sure it doesn't justifie removing the option, but if they want to put money on other aspects that they feel are more important, then they will sacrifice it.


That doesn't tell you if the person also played other races. I count among that 80% even though I played only3 humans and close to 30 elves/dwarves. If you just kept pressing next in the character selection screen you end up with human male noble warrior and I think there were a lot of people who did that as well as  people like me who play everything and people who will only play as humans/ themselves.

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If it's a more streamlined Dragon Age 2, it would ruin the series for me.

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metalheaded0117 wrote...

if a starchild suddenly appears and suddenly appears and reveals he is the ultimate arc-demon and is in control of all darkspawn and the only way to defeat them permanently is to synthesize with them destroy all non-human life or take his place as the ultimate arc-demon

Thats when Sandal shows up and says "enchant this!" and in the most epic of all cut scenes annihilates him.

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Very long cooldown's on healing (10-20 seconds is fine, not a whole minute)
Endless enemies jumping from the skies

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The one thing that would ruin the game for me is simple..rhe fans

Those guy who will pick apart the one scene they dislike and disregard the rest of the game. Those fans who cyberstalk the devs on Facebook, Twitter, etc. and generally be a**holes to them. Those fans who will go so far as to sue the company over said disliked game

Yea...hard to really find any other reason

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Tinxa wrote...

kinderschlager wrote...

well that just pisses me off, no one asked for a single race. far as i can recall, everyone loved the ability to choose you origin (kinda the premise of the game that set up the entire series, no?)


Apparently when they looked at the numbers a great majority of players only played the human noble origin, with the dwarven origins being especially rarely chosen.

And they also included VO for the PC.


elf and mage where my personal favorites. 

don't take stuff away just because "statistics" say it isn't relevant. one of my favorite playthrews was as a dwarvven commoner

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nightscrawl wrote...

kinderschlager wrote...

people keep putting references, but where are the blogs, the news articles? till you can point me to something like the open letter on dragon ages main website, i'm going to keep screaming NO ONE WANTS THAT!

Even if they hadn't confirmed human-only -- which they HAVE -- I would wager that it is too late in the development cycle to start adding races now to heed your "no one wants that" shouts. Hell, they even removed a human barbarian origin for DAO after quite a bit of development. Removing planned things I can see; adding them, I highly doubt.

Also, here is a tweet from Mike:

@Mike_Laidlaw

Today I confirmed that DAIII’s hero will be human, with varied, detailed backgrounds. Largely, for story reasons, but also customization.


well damn

also, story reasons my ass. EA is behind that is my guess, too lazy to give us some real choices

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Auto PC having nightmares about random vent kids in one hour long inescapable cutscenes.


Good to see I am not the only one who hated that. 


that was a TAD irksome

might i add micro transactions to the list? i pay 60 dollars for a game, not being nickle and dimed to death as well

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Mims wrote...

Massive changes to the game notwithstanding [IE; suddenly becoming a cooking simulator or something], my deal breakers are:

- Have a small party roster populated by the worst characters.
- Retcon away more decisions made in previous games.
- Restrictive RP aspects. It doesn't need to be a 'traditional RPG', but it should feel like my character. Otherwise you might as well just designate a protagonist.
- Lackluster environments

Another big thing for me has already been broken, which is choosing another race. This is pretty big for me, because I'd prefer to be a non-human. That alone is enough to not preorder, but I'll still buy at release if the rest looks good.


you and me seem to be in the minority mate

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no race selectiob, multiplayer, and non playable origins............wait a minute.


lol, thank EA for that.

here's the cascade of bioware games for me

star wars knights of the old republic>DA:O>ME>ME2>ME3>SWTOR>DA2>?

get the picture? the more EA gets involved, the crappeir the games become