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[WhiteKnyght]

You know how in The Stolen Throne and The Calling, Maric's special sword is kind of like Kryptonite to anything bearing the taint?

Something occurred to me recently. It should have the same effect on Grey Wardens. They carry the taint, which for some unexplained reason, is agonized by that sword.

But this never comes up in game or in book.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Grey Wardens are in control of their Taint rather than the other way around (however temporary that arrangement is.) Maybe that cancels the effect? That explanation feels out of line with the rest of the series somehow, but it's the only thing I can think of.

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 27 mai 2013 - 02:44 .

[WhiteKnyght]

Darkspawn lack of control doesn't seem to be the reason why they're hurt.

In The Calling, Maric held the sword up to black film of taint on a nearby wall and it literally moved to avoid it, to the amazement of the Grey Wardens.

The taint has a mind of its own, and it clearly does not like whatever is in that sword. Perhaps that's even why Fiona was cured of her taint. Maric has spent years with that sword at his hip - perhaps whatever is in it got into his system and passed into her when he slept with her and impregnated her with Alistair.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

I don't think that answers what I said.

Since the Taint doesn't like the blade, and Grey Wardens aren't noticeably effected, I can only assume that the Wardens having control of theirs rather than the other way around (as is the case with both the darkspawn and that film of Taint) is what protects them. On the other hand, that might not be enough if they were stabbed with it. For that matter, you might be right that that's what cured Fiona.

[WhiteKnyght]

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

I don't think that answers what I said.

Since the Taint doesn't like the blade, and Grey Wardens aren't noticeably effected, I can only assume that the Wardens having control of theirs rather than the other way around (as is the case with both the darkspawn and that film of Taint) is what protects them. On the other hand, that might not be enough if they were stabbed with it. For that matter, you might be right that that's what cured Fiona.

It's a pretty good theory, anyway. Plus at the time when Maric slept with Fiona, she had already begun the transformation into a ghoul thanks to First-Enchanter Remille's amulets. Meaning the taint in her body was going out of control. If traces of the swords' anti-taint energy indeed passed to Alistair, the two might have cancelled each other out. Because it if it stayed in Alistair his whole life, then he probably wouldn't have been able to become a Grey Warden.


It's also a plausible theory that Alistair may have been what cured Fiona, regardless of Maric's sword. According to him, Grey Wardens don't normally have children(probably because the taint passes to them, according to Morrigan), so it's possible that Alistair absorbed the taint from Fiona in-utero.

That may also be why Duncan made Alistair a Warden. Living with the taint in your body will either kill a person or turn them into a ghoul(as exhibited by Tamlen and Mahariel). So Duncan may have done it to save Alistair's life without him knowing it(since becoming a Grey Warden is regarded as a cure). Because considering Duncan's promise to Maric and Fiona to watch over Alistair, subjecting him to a life threatening ritual just to get a recruit at a time when there was no blight is counteractive to that promise.

[NoForgiveness]

I would say a better explanation is that grey wardens possess more living stuff in their body other then corruption, whereas darkspawn are walking taint beings(no pun intended) also don't assume Alistair is Fiona's child, there's plenty of things that say otherwise.

[WhiteKnyght]

MR_PN wrote...

I would say a better explanation is that grey wardens possess more living stuff in their body other then corruption, whereas darkspawn are walking taint beings(no pun intended) also don't assume Alistair is Fiona's child, there's plenty of things that say otherwise.

Well, according to the World of Thedas, Alistair was born in 9:10 Dragon. The same year Maric allowed the Grey Wardens to return to Ferelden.

Th events of the Calling are placed at 9:15 Dragon, the same as stated in the book, but David Gaider said that The Calling's story was full of dating and aging errors(like how Cailan is 9 years old when he's supposed to be 5 years old). But Dragon Age Origins, the game itself, places that story at 9:10 Dragon(DAO takes place 9:30 Dragon, and they keep saying "twenty years ago": So it's simple math)

So Alistair was born in the same year that Maric had sex with a Grey Warden who conceived a child that she made him swear to raise outside of the court, lie to and say his mother was human and dead, and that Duncan promised to look out for.

Also anybody who read the novels would know it'd be completely out of character for Maric to just bang a random servant anyway. He loved Rowan and punished himself for killing Katriel for years, and couldn't be with anyone again until he'd come to terms with it(Fiona helped that)

[WhiteKnyght]

Also something I hadn't considered.

It's quite possible Fiona's taint was cured by those anti-taint potions Remille had Maric drinking.

We know they did work, because he drank one per day and even got the taint inside his body when he got bit by a Genlock, but he didn't become tainted or need to undergo the Joining.

And he was presumably still taking them when he slept with Fiona. So the contents of the potions may have been transmitted sexually. Which I must say would be a hilarious twist, it's usually diseases that are transmitted by sex, not cures. Fiona got the first STC.

[ladyiolanthe]

Well, I wonder if Calenhad's dragon blood, which Maric and Alistair inherited, has something to do with Fiona's cure. Fetuses do pass on some of their cells/blood to their mothers while developing, after all. I mean, it's been established that Calenhad's dragon blood has the power to wake up ancient dragons (in the Dark Horse comics). Who knows what else it can do, especially since the Old Gods/Archdemons are basically super powerful ancient dragons/super powerful tainted ancient dragons.

The dragon blood also makes me wonder whether King Alistair/female Cousland princess-consort could have a kid after all.

Modifié par ladyiolanthe, 11 juillet 2013 - 02:06 .