Aller au contenu

So Collectors are clearly OP


  • Veuillez vous connecter pour répondre
219 réponses à ce sujet

#76
Guest_BlastoTheEnkindled_*

Guest_BlastoTheEnkindled_*
  • Guests

Cyonan wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

A brute doesn't shoot back with multi-nades and missiles AT THE SAME TIME.


The brute is also underpowered, but that's not the point. The point was that Scions do not take forever to kill.

and I already said that the whole thing about them having cluster grenades is confusing, even though not every Scion will have it at once.

BlastoTheEnkindled wrote...

How much damage can a brute cause outside the melee range?
They might have roughly the same XP, but brutes are even less threatening than marauders, imho.
A scion can completely devastate a team of players from 40m distance, through a 40x40cm window.


How much damage does a Scion cause while dancing in and out of melee range?


I never said Scions take ages to kill, the problem is that they need a splitsecond to kill YOU...
Here's the difference :unsure:.
Unless you are using an infiltrator with max weapon damage and good aim you'd be in real danger if you get caught by one of them, and getting into the scion's melee range is not the safest thing in the world, and sometimes you just can't thanks to captains or other Scions, while keeping yourself outiside a brute's melee range shouldn't be that hard, unless you're doing an escort/hack.

We can argue that brutes are underpowered, but to me is more that the scions are overpowered.
I don't even start to talk about the possessed ones...

#77
LegionofRannoch

LegionofRannoch
  • Members
  • 6 963 messages

DragonRacer wrote...

LegionofRannoch wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

LegionofRannoch wrote...

but you have sexy standards.. you like sasha grey and a few others I cant remember the name of.


I like all kinds of ladies... I'm actually not that choosey on looks and much more choosey on personality. Hot chicks that are annoying are not my thing (arm trophies)... I'd rather be with a frumpy nerd who is cool that I like to be around (compatablity > a hot body).

But for porn... I'll always go with a shapely ass/thighs first... I'm a butt man. Image IPB


sex is overrated.


I highly disagree.

Image IPBImage IPB

I meant under certain circumstances Image IPB

you wouldn't just go out and do every guy you met just because you feel like it, would you?

it has to be someone you love..to make it special.. to make it worth having.Image IPB

#78
megabeast37215

megabeast37215
  • Members
  • 13 626 messages

DragonRacer wrote...

LegionofRannoch wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

LegionofRannoch wrote...

but you have sexy standards.. you like sasha grey and a few others I cant remember the name of.


I like all kinds of ladies... I'm actually not that choosey on looks and much more choosey on personality. Hot chicks that are annoying are not my thing (arm trophies)... I'd rather be with a frumpy nerd who is cool that I like to be around (compatablity > a hot body).

But for porn... I'll always go with a shapely ass/thighs first... I'm a butt man. Image IPB


sex is overrated.


I highly disagree.


It all kinda depends on who you're having it with Image IPB

#79
oO Stryfe Oo

oO Stryfe Oo
  • Members
  • 4 029 messages

BlastoTheEnkindled wrote...

Scions...the problem is that they need a splitsecond to kill YOU...


Bingo.

Besides, their cannon is bugged, iirc. No way BW meant for their cannon to do THAT much damage on top of the other effects.

Edit: Man, there's been innuendo in just about every thread I've opened these past few weeks.Image IPB

Modifié par oO Stryfe Oo, 27 mai 2013 - 08:48 .


#80
LegionofRannoch

LegionofRannoch
  • Members
  • 6 963 messages

megabeast37215 wrote...

DragonRacer wrote...

LegionofRannoch wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

LegionofRannoch wrote...

but you have sexy standards.. you like sasha grey and a few others I cant remember the name of.


I like all kinds of ladies... I'm actually not that choosey on looks and much more choosey on personality. Hot chicks that are annoying are not my thing (arm trophies)... I'd rather be with a frumpy nerd who is cool that I like to be around (compatablity > a hot body).

But for porn... I'll always go with a shapely ass/thighs first... I'm a butt man. Image IPB


sex is overrated.


I highly disagree.


It all kinda depends on who you're having it with Image IPB


theres a whole side of DragonRacer we haven't seen! Image IPBImage IPBImage IPB

#81
megabeast37215

megabeast37215
  • Members
  • 13 626 messages

LegionofRannoch wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

DragonRacer wrote...

LegionofRannoch wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

LegionofRannoch wrote...

but you have sexy standards.. you like sasha grey and a few others I cant remember the name of.


I like all kinds of ladies... I'm actually not that choosey on looks and much more choosey on personality. Hot chicks that are annoying are not my thing (arm trophies)... I'd rather be with a frumpy nerd who is cool that I like to be around (compatablity > a hot body).

But for porn... I'll always go with a shapely ass/thighs first... I'm a butt man. Image IPB


sex is overrated.


I highly disagree.


It all kinda depends on who you're having it with Image IPB


theres a whole side of DragonRacer we haven't seen! Image IPBImage IPBImage IPB


We can only imagine... that the carpet matches the drapes Image IPB

Modifié par megabeast37215, 27 mai 2013 - 10:24 .


#82
oO Stryfe Oo

oO Stryfe Oo
  • Members
  • 4 029 messages
C'mon, guys...can't we save it for later? I thought BSN didn't get weird until late at night?

#83
stysiaq

stysiaq
  • Members
  • 8 480 messages

oO Stryfe Oo wrote...

C'mon, guys...can't we save it for later? I thought BSN didn't get weird until late at night?


it's 11 pm here, I think it's justified.

#84
Guest_Air Quotes_*

Guest_Air Quotes_*
  • Guests

oO Stryfe Oo wrote...

C'mon, guys...can't we save it for later? I thought BSN didn't get weird until late at night?

 

Hahahahahahaah. BSN is ALWAYS weird. ALWAYS. And if you feed it....god help you. 

#85
PyroByte

PyroByte
  • Members
  • 294 messages
Collector Swarms are OP. Their hitbox is way too small and the explosion damage of seeker plague is too high. Also possession rate on plat is too high.

Rest is managable

#86
Guest_Air Quotes_*

Guest_Air Quotes_*
  • Guests

PyroByte wrote...

Collector Swarms are OP. Their hitbox is way too small and the explosion damage of seeker plague is too high. Also possession rate on plat is too high.

Rest is managable

 

Your talking privileges have been revoked. :alien:

Modifié par Air Quotes, 27 mai 2013 - 08:58 .


#87
LegionofRannoch

LegionofRannoch
  • Members
  • 6 963 messages

megabeast37215 wrote...

LegionofRannoch wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

DragonRacer wrote...

LegionofRannoch wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

LegionofRannoch wrote...

but you have sexy standards.. you like sasha grey and a few others I cant remember the name of.


I like all kinds of ladies... I'm actually not that choosey on looks and much more choosey on personality. Hot chicks that are annoying are not my thing (arm trophies)... I'd rather be with a frumpy nerd who is cool that I like to be around (compatablity > a hot body).

But for porn... I'll always go with a shapely ass/thighs first... I'm a butt man. Image IPB


sex is overrated.


I highly disagree.


It all kinda depends on who you're having it with Image IPB


theres a whole side of DragonRacer we haven't seen! Image IPBImage IPBImage IPB


We can only imagine... that the curtains match the drapes Image IPB


Image IPB

...

wat?

#88
Tokenusername

Tokenusername
  • Members
  • 11 157 messages

Air Quotes wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

Clear it is all factions that are op, not just collectors. You should mod it so all the enemies shoot butterflies and cast friendship.

 

Yeah. Lets make this a thread about me and ignore the stats. I made them up.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt and assumed this was a parody of yourself. Am I to believe you're putting this out as your serious opinion?

Statistical analysis doesn't work when have skewing variables that haven been accounted for. Low percentage of successful extractions do not automatically mean that faction is over powered. It could be easily skew by something like, that not many people that routinely play platinum play collectors. Since the quick search auto defaults to Collector Plat, many new players attempt it as their first game and fail horribly. Not many of the good players that can beat it wanting to and many inexperienced players that can't beat it failing leaves the results not accurately reflecting the faction's difficulty.

Tactical application of da maths shows that success rates for all factions,across all difficulties is (with the exception of Cerberus at 24.95%) 25% (which i'm finding kind of suspisious). In the "Higher" difficulties the success rates break down to:
Reapers   - 13%
Geth          - 12.3%
Cerberus  - 8.25%
Collectors - 5.65% (Pulled heavily by the big collector fail on gold)

Modifié par Tokenusername, 27 mai 2013 - 09:11 .


#89
Dunvi

Dunvi
  • Members
  • 4 841 messages

stysiaq wrote...

oO Stryfe Oo wrote...

C'mon, guys...can't we save it for later? I thought BSN didn't get weird until late at night?


it's 11 pm here, I think it's justified.




Plus, it's a holiday in the US. I can't be the only one without family barbeques to go and thus getting ready to have some BSN fun...

#90
Guest_Air Quotes_*

Guest_Air Quotes_*
  • Guests

Tokenusername wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

Clear it is all factions that are op, not just collectors. You should mod it so all the enemies shoot butterflies and cast friendship.

 

Yeah. Lets make this a thread about me and ignore the stats. I made them up.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt and assumed this was a parody of yourself. Am I to believe you're putting this out as your serious opinion?

Statistical analysis doesn't work when have skewing variables that haven been accounted for. Low percentage of successful extractions do not automatically mean that faction is over powered. It could be easily skew by something like, that not many people that routinely play platinum play collectors. Since the quick search auto defaults to Collector Plat, many new players attempt it as their first game and fail horribly. Not many of the good players that can beat it wanting to and many inexperienced players that can't beat it failing leaves the results not accurately reflecting the faction's difficulty.

Tactical application of da maths shows that success rates for all factions,across all difficulties is (with the exception of Cerberus at 24.95%) 25% (which i'm finding kind of suspisious). In the "Higher" difficulties the success rates break down to:
Reapers   - 13%
Geth          - 12.3%
Cerberus  - 8.25%
Collectors - 5.65% (Pulled heavily by the big collector fail on gold)

 

I say...big Collector fail on Gold...I rest my case. 

#91
Ziegrif

Ziegrif
  • Members
  • 10 095 messages

stysiaq wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

Clear it is all factions that are op, not just collectors. You should mod it so all the enemies shoot butterflies and cast friendship.

 

Yeah. Lets make this a thread about me and ignore the stats. I made them up. 



I concur. Let's make this thread about ME.

Should I change my avatar to my favorite porn actress? Would it count as pornomancing if it's only her face?
Do turtles dream?


1. Maybe dpends on you.
2. Depends on what she's doing with her face.
3. I believe all mammals and reptiles that can have REM sleep should be able to process memories and have dreams. REM sleep being the dream phase of sleep and reptiles according to the internet seem to exhibit it...
So I guess so. Turtles dream. I wonder what they dream about. Turtles, Turtles, Turtles, Turtles, Turtles, Turtles, Turtles, Turtles, Turtles, Turtles, Turtles, Turtles, Turtles, Turtles, Turtles, 
Turtles, Turtles, Turtles, Turtles, Turtles, Turtles, Turtles,Turtles, Turtles, Turtles, Turtles, Turtles, Turtles.


 Turtles.

Oh and are you still working on the AIU wallpaper? Or didja get distracted and start doing other stuff?

#92
LegionofRannoch

LegionofRannoch
  • Members
  • 6 963 messages

Dunvi wrote...

stysiaq wrote...

oO Stryfe Oo wrote...

C'mon, guys...can't we save it for later? I thought BSN didn't get weird until late at night?


it's 11 pm here, I think it's justified.




Plus, it's a holiday in the US. I can't be the only one without family barbeques to go and thus getting ready to have some BSN fun...

+1

#93
NuclearTech76

NuclearTech76
  • Members
  • 16 229 messages
Gold and Platinum Wave 8 are OP. Once you embrace that you need to nuke everything on those waves, they are a curbstomping waiting to happen.

I actually perfer to solo Collectors on Platinum over the other factions.

#94
Guest_Air Quotes_*

Guest_Air Quotes_*
  • Guests

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Gold and Platinum Wave 8 are OP. Once you embrace that you need to nuke everything on those waves, they are a curbstomping waiting to happen.

I actually perfer to solo Collectors on Platinum over the other factions.

 

LOL. Everything can be beaten by nuking. 

#95
Tokenusername

Tokenusername
  • Members
  • 11 157 messages

Air Quotes wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

Tactical application of da maths shows that success rates for all factions,across all difficulties is (with the exception of Cerberus at 24.95%) 25% (which i'm finding kind of suspisious). In the "Higher" difficulties the success rates break down to:
Reapers   - 13%
Geth          - 12.3%
Cerberus  - 8.25%
Collectors - 5.65% (Pulled heavily by the big collector fail on gold)

 

I say...big Collector fail on Gold...I rest my case.

Success rates being low in a single difficulty (and not even the highest one) when in all other difficulties they are not, does not support your argument. You can't pick and choose your statistics.

Modifié par Tokenusername, 27 mai 2013 - 09:17 .


#96
Guest_Air Quotes_*

Guest_Air Quotes_*
  • Guests

Tokenusername wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

Tactical application of da maths shows that success rates for all factions,across all difficulties is (with the exception of Cerberus at 24.95%) 25% (which i'm finding kind of suspisious). In the "Higher" difficulties the success rates break down to:
Reapers   - 13%
Geth          - 12.3%
Cerberus  - 8.25%
Collectors - 5.65% (Pulled heavily by the big collector fail on gold)

 

I say...big Collector fail on Gold...I rest my case.

Success rates being low in a single difficulty (and not even the highest one) when in all other difficulties they are not, does not support your argument. You can't pick and choose your statistics.

 

I don't need to argue. Statistics are there. And I don't see many no rocket speedruns even by the BSN elitists vs Collectors.  

Even by comparing their units side by side to Reapers you'll see that they beat every single one of them by 2x. 

#97
lightswitch

lightswitch
  • Members
  • 3 664 messages
Collectors wave 8 might be overpowered. The rest is fine

#98
NuclearTech76

NuclearTech76
  • Members
  • 16 229 messages

Air Quotes wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Gold and Platinum Wave 8 are OP. Once you embrace that you need to nuke everything on those waves, they are a curbstomping waiting to happen.

I actually perfer to solo Collectors on Platinum over the other factions.

 

LOL. Everything can be beaten by nuking. 

Words to live by. :whistle:

#99
Shadow of Terror

Shadow of Terror
  • Members
  • 815 messages

Tokenusername wrote...

Tactical application of da maths shows that success rates for all factions,across all difficulties is (with the exception of Cerberus at 24.95%) 25% (which i'm finding kind of suspisious). In the "Higher" difficulties the success rates break down to:
Reapers   - 13%
Geth          - 12.3%
Cerberus  - 8.25%
Collectors - 5.65% (Pulled heavily by the big collector fail on gold)


How did you calculate the success rate if you don't mind me asking?

#100
LegionofRannoch

LegionofRannoch
  • Members
  • 6 963 messages

lightswitch wrote...

Collectors wave 8 might be overpowered. The rest is fine


what? those are just pyros... wave 9  is worse.. and 10 is a nightmare without a missle for clean up. Image IPB

edit: in platinum. Image IPB

Modifié par LegionofRannoch, 27 mai 2013 - 09:25 .