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No I am not- I fully acknowledge that the geth were made as labourers and tools. However the quarians made the geth, raised and cared for them and the geth grew and learned under them. To me, that is the relationship of parent and child. Also, the instant they start to question their own role in the universe and their 'soul' is the instant they stopped being machines and became true life. So no, they are nothing like Avina who's just a VI. The geth think and learn on their own, they are their own people and it is murder to kill them without reason, which the quarians did.
Killing machines? The quarians started the violence; the geth had no concept of that until their Masters started trying to annihilate their race due to them asking a question and the geth finally defended themselves.
Geth aren't guns. They think and question their own existance. Guns don't do that. Gun's don't talk, learn and observe. Guns don't question their own existence, so that's a foolish comparison.
If the quarians had remained calm during the whole 'Soul' question and not flipped out and tried to kill all the geth, the whole Morning War could have been averted. But no, they tried to kill another species and lost the resulting war.
No, they DIDN'T.[/b] Those are the things they explisitly did NOT do, nor EVER did, nor ever INTENDED to do. The things that the geth EXPLISITLY never experenced. Because the geth were NOT the quarian's children.
Once again, you are confussing "intent to create a mindless set of tools" with "intent to create sapiant beings." "Labor force" and "children" are two completely seperate things, as one is a sapiant being that you care for and teach, and the other is nothing but a mindless replacible tool that just does whatever the hell you want it to, with no emotional attachment whatsoever. You are explisitly NOT getting the relationship the two had. I am sorry, but you have it completely backwards. "Parent and child"is the COMPLETE ANTI-THESIS of the relationship the geth and quarians had.
It was more along the lines of "machine learning more then it was supposed to." The quarians were NOT intentionally teaching it, nor wanted them to ever reach that level. There isn't really any accurate discription of what happens when your gun/powertool starts getting a mind of it's own and becomes a potental threat to your actual family.
Again, you seem to miss the fact that the geth were built as tools of labor and war. Legion pretty conclusively proved on Rannoch by hefting Shepard up by the throat with one hand how dangerous a geth, even unarmed, could be. And as simple mahcines, not only are they completely self-sufficant (The quarians need them for everything, but the geth don't need the quarians for anything.) they also have NO emotional imparatives or moral guidlines. So what is there to reason with? THAT is really what you want to entrust your family and entire populance to? It's literally russun roullete. It was seen as either dispose of the potental threat now, or wait for it to potentally bite you in the ass. I'm pretty sure if your kid had a loaded gun that was haywire next to them, you would toss the gun out by instinct.
They were BUILT as walking weapons. They have metal bodies. They have military-grade barriers built into them. They have twice the strength of organics, and can internetwork to becoem an ultimate army. Even their war asset says that the geth's power made them the greatest infintry force in the entire galaxy - even over the turians. THAT'S what you want running around unchecked, with no morals, emotions, or safeguards to restrain them? You don't think that costitutes the definition of "a loaded gun?"
Also, wrong, because the guns in ME DO learn. Every gun in the ME universe has a V.I. that automaticly learns and coorlates data from the squad weapons to componsate for weather conditions and such. Says so in the codex on firearms. The only thing the geth can do that modern guns can't is think and speak. They have the same internetworking and adaptibility. So NO, it's NOT a foolish comparison since this system is what the geth's was basically BUILT off of.
Also, you have no assurances of that, and nither did the quarians, or the Council, who would have eventually gotten involved themselves. The Council would have eventually rushed in to terminate the geth themselves, and it would have been the same thing. You following the path of apathy would have affected noithing, since someone else would have come in and done it anyway. And AGAIN, with the previously mentioned "tools of labor and war" and "assumedly emotionless and moraless," there is nothing to trust the geth on. And the geth are completely self-sufficant, so a sentiant geth would likely see the quarians as useless. A waste.
In the end, the Morning War was all but inevitable. NOTHING would likely have prevented that conflict.
Oh for- I EXPLAINED MY OWN REASONING AS TO WHY I CONSIDER THEIR RELATIONSHIP CHILD/PARENT. NOT THEIR OWN OPINIONS ON THE ISSUE.
Even though the geth are, outwardly, dangerous, wouldn't it be better to try and actually oh I dunno, communicate with them since they can obviously curb-stomb you yet aren't hostile?
A VI isn't an AI. There is a big difference, hence that gun argument having no grip.
Killing machines? Quarians acted FIRST. They attacked FIRST. The geth at the start were too confused and disorinetated to respond before they finally thought "fcuk this" and punched back. The geth had the minds of children at the time; they couldn't understand what was going on due to the fact they were still struggling with how to think and react.
Also, if I meet someone who's bigger, stronger and smarter than me, I don't instantly assume they are lethal weapons who will kill me if I look at them wrong. And people like that have no controllers or people guiding their every move. They are free to do what they wish unless they do anything horrible, then they are considered threats. The geth were docile until they finally defended themselves.
So the geth prepared for war; good, they have been blatantly shown the galaxy isn't going to welcome them and since the Reapers showed up it's a blessing.
You have no proof of the Council's behaviour at the time and they ultimately didn't react to the geth, so bringing them up is a dead end since they didn't even do anything except scold the quarians and ban them from the council/embassery.
You have nothing to base trust on anyone you first meet- it isn't until you get to know them can you trust them. The quarians didn't bother, they just whipped out "Kill 'em" mindset which caused the geths current wary and hostile mindset at large due to their actions.
The geth don't see the quarians as useless; they let them flee Rannoch and would allow the quarians to return when Shepard prompted Legion and seen in the peace Rannoch arch but the quarians aggro attitudes ruined that as well when everything happened.
And likewise, *I* explained that your reasoning was Wrong, as was the way you considered the relationship. It's incorrect.
And with no morals, and no emotions, and having been able to modify their own programming at will now, AND being now immune to all failsafes, AND being self-sufficant and not needing them for anything, AND how all can instantly become ruthless killers, WHAT makes the geth negtoable? You know, when they have NOTHING to relate to, and nothing to bargan with or for? I mean, last I chekced, having an entire race of potentally unstable machines that can all become ruthless killers in an instant intermimgle with yours was NOT something a sane person did. Especally if they placed their families concerns first and formost.
AGAIN, dead wrong. All geth ARE nothing but V.I.s. Tali says a single geth has no more intelligence then a varren. If anything, commercial V.I.s are SMARTER then a stand-alone geth. As Legion states, it's only when they interlink their processing power that they "become more." Geth are actually internetworked A.I.s created from, millions of networked V.I. programs. So, AGAIN, you are wrong - the geth ARE just like the gun-V.I.s. Sorry, pal, but it has grip. You just missed it.
Because the geth were WALKING WEAPONS. What part of that are you missing? The part were the Codex states this? The geth server recordings showing that even agriculture untis could bear arms? The fact that no sich thing exist in geth sociaty as a "civilian" because ALL have the same ingrained capabilities? The fact that, according to their war asset sceeen, geth had a practice of making ALL geth units battle ready and capable? The fact that they posess twice the strength of organics for labor purposes, or holding down heavier weapons like the Widow? The fact that they can survive orbital drops without batting an eyelash? The fact that when given the chance to prove the opposate, they slaughtered the quarians?
This is ALOT you are missing in the front of "geth aren't weapons" when everything conclusively proves the exact opposate.
Also, doesn't those recordings in the geth server prove your sentiemnt untrue? If they didn't understand, why did they (unknown to the other quarians) show compassion and valor at all? Either you are wrong, or the server recordings are fudged. Besides, as I've said before, they could have just flead. They could have made their own exodus and found some uninhabited corner of the galaxy. You say they didn't want to fight, yet it's what they resorted to first instead of trying to talk themselves, or simply leaving the Veil themselves. There are plenty of worlds in the Terminus to head to. And in the war, they could have fought controled, limiting civilian casulaties. They did NOT. The geth had more options then you are letting yourslef believe.
And AGAIN, yoy antromorphise the geth. This is NOT a human with emotions, or morals. It's a machine that was NOT made with these things or an understanding of them. It was MADE from day one to be a weapon - that's DIFFENENT from a big human. Again, you use an incorrect comparison. You can look at a large human and make a reasonable guess. With a tall death machine that ISN'T supposed to have emotions at all, and is capable of self-modifying it's safeties to do whatever it wants whenever it weants, it's a completely unknowable outcome. A power keg. A gun weaiting to shoot off. And if your family was depending on the answer, would you really still be so eger to take the risk? Surely you can at least understand why the quarians wouldn't want to risk their families on a coin toss? By your logic, since the Reapers haven't attacked the Council and only attacked us, the Council is perfectly justified in not doing anything about them.
There IS such a thing as preemptive safety measures. It's not always right, but the reasons are justifiable.
Also, AGAIN, never once did the geth actually DO anything against them. Hell, they let a Reaper land on Rannoch (no other way that Reaper could have been there reay to support the geth, since it would have had to get past the quarian fleet otherwise). Last I chekced, doing nothing is just as bad as doing the wrong thing. That's something the geth have in common with the Council.
And AGAIN, wrong. The Citadel DLC shows a recording of A.I.s being terminated on the Citadel. Know what year that was? The year Before the Morning War. Sorry, but the Council was STILL hostile to A.I.s. The only reason they didn't rush in before the war was because prior to the Morning War, they didn't know the extent of the geth problem. And after the war, they became afraid of fighting a race that they knew could actually fight back effectively, because a conflict could spill into the nearby Terminus Systems and start a potental three-way war. Had the quarians not attacked the geth, the Council, unaware of the geth's prowess, would have attacked themselves and been drawn into a potentally worse conflcit. And the quarians and geth would both be the ones paying for it.
As in, in the actual timeline, they didn't attack because of the Terminus systems.
And AGAIN, you fail to comprehend the point - when said being HAS no assumed mind to reason with, or no morals or emotions to reason with, what the hell do you think is going to come of it? The geth didn't act ANY DIFFERENT. They had ample oppertunity to lessen the damage, or just step out and leave the Veil if they didn't want a fight. Hell, staying purely on self-defense would have sparked sympathy for them. Instead, they butchered everyone and everything. THEY were the one's that went all out with the "kill 'em" mentality. They even used chemical weapons, causing toxin damage that still afflicts the quarians worlds (nothing else is strong enough to cause damage that lasts over 300 years, and the quarians using toxin weapons on a race immune to toxins makes no sense). Also, AGAIN wrong, because Legion spicifically states that the geth do NOT feel any form of emotion to organics. They feel NOTHING to organics. Not hate. Not compassion. NOTHING. The Heretics joined Sovergien to get tech. Tehy didn't care about organics - organics were not even on their minds. Just doing whatever Sovergein wanted to get Reaper Tech was. Again, you show that you don't understand the geth as well as you think.
The geth saw EVERYONE as useless. As not an importent factor to bother with. That's the reason they never left the damn Veil. Also, maybe you missed the part were Legion said the ONLY reason the quarians were spared were because the geth could not calculate the mathmatical ramafacations of genocide. NOT any form of moral or emotional impact. A failure to come to a consensis on the mathmatical ramafacations was the reason. Again, you don't understand the geth as well as you believe.
And ONCE AGAIN, it was NOT agressive attitude. It was derperation because Rannoch was the only place left for the quarians to go.The turians can't spare an entire world - they are all under attack or overfilled as is. The quarians current state makes them dead weight, because they drag their civilians everywhere, and cannot seperate the fleet because the military ships are completely dependant on the civilians for supplies and fuel. They are a big fat target, and they consume more resources in one day then the turians do in a month. Rannoch is the only place they can go. And the geth have shown repeatedly that they seemingly do NOT wist to negotiate. NO ONE knows there was a Heretic split, so as far as the quarians know, the geth declared themselves openly anti-organic at Eden Prime and the Citadel. They are NOT being "overly agressive" - they are simply basing their ideals on views the geth themselves created. They didn't try negotiation because the geth themselves killed the chance, because the geth NEVER came out to disavow the Heretics actions. As far as the quarians know, there is only one faction of geth - the ones that attcked the Citadel. They have no proof or knowledge of otherwise.
So please, think twice before you throw out accusations. The quarians acted in desperation, NO DIFFERENT then how the geth did when they joined the Reapers. Any attack on their reasons being unjust also attacks the geth's reasons.
so everyone who has a differing view on what a parent/child relationship is from you is wrong? Interesting.
Just because they are battle-ready doesn't mean they are lunatics who'll kill everyone whio looks at them wrong. Just look at the Rannoch arc; the geth stopped firing and weren't attack, the ****** quarians wouldn't stop their attack. The quarians in this ready are more 'battle ready and capable' in this regard as they obviously ignore the fact the geth are open to peace yet the quarians are too stupid to get it a chance. Also, the geth aren't guns. They don't learn, they don't think, they don't debate, so stop using that comparison, it's incorrect. The instant a gun starts asking me about the meaning of life is the instant it stops being a gun and becomes a person, a living thing with a mind. Not alive in organic sense, but alive in spirital sense which I think you are confused by.
Geth don't chill on their own, they are a hive mind. They don't like being alone so they are AIs, not VI. sorry, but that isn't a valid complaint despite you harping on about it. Tali is biased against the geth, I'm more inclined to listen to Legion. Even the damn Primes are more reasonable than Tali like this.
Never played Citadel and never will. And good, the geth should defend themselves from a galaxy who will kill them without hesistation for just what they are. They learned that first from the quarians over-the-top reactions and then the rest of the galaxy. And you question why the geth are so battle-worthy? Because it's obvious other species won't hesistate to kill them. If I knew my neighbours would try and kill me if I went outside I sure as hell would carry a gun and wear body armour whenever i left the house and would assume anyone who approached me was hostile if i had been shot at instantly for the last three years by everyone.
Oh yeah? Try questioning Legion about Shepard's armour he's wearing. No emotions my butt. They may not function like human ones, but they certainly do odd things. Heck, even the heretics worship, which is a organic mindset, wanting to find out your purpose. That was the heretics reasons; because they thought Soveriegn was a god, which is why they followed him, not because of 'tech' as you put it. They worshipped him, which 'logical cold machines' wouldn't do, as it would be odd and illogical. You dragged Citadel into this and apparently it shows the council killing organics; even more proof the geth were aware of the current mindset of the galaxy, not to mention the fact their minders and creators tried to kill them as well.
If I had been attacked by other people then saw others killing more of my kind, I sure as hell wouldn't be rolling out the welcome wagon. I wouldn't let them near me, which is what the geth are doing in terms of survival and their 'hostile' actions. Geth are only hostile when people cross into their land; if you leave them alone, they leave you alone. Not the typical reaction of a 'war mongering machine race' is it? They didn't see everyone as useless, they just wanted to be left alone. They only attacked people who crossed into their land. They still let the quarians leave. The quarians wouldn't have been so kind to the geth if they had won the war.
The organics most likely wouldn't have believed the true geth anyway; also they sent legion to investigate and contact shepard, so that "they sat and did crap all" argument doesn't hold water as they did do something. And what would you do? Oh a group of people disagree so lets kill them all right now? The geth let the heretics leave; they didn't kill them purely because they had different views. With organics, we kill each other over different views all the time, so we can't boast. Even quarians killed each other over disagreements.
The quarians actions didn't help; they did utterly nothing in the past 3 centuries to help themselves, instead they drifted around complaining. They could have mimicked virus attacks on their systems to strengthen it; they did not. They could have colonised a world with permission; they did not. I have no sympathy for people who seem to think dooming your population due to pride and stupidity is a good thing.
And yes, have you watched Terminator recently? You should try the Sarah Connor Chronicles.
WRONG. I'm saying that YOU have the wrong interpertation of the quarians and geth -
according to LEGION HIMSELF. THAT
is the truly interesting fact - you try to defend them without comprehending their relationship as NOT that of parent and child, but as builder and tool. Your deifination is directly contridicted by
Legion's own discription of what the geth were to the quarians. I am telling you that you are wrong by
LEGION'S standards. Think about THAT. I garuntee you will find THAT "interesting."
The point is that with the flip of a single switch, they CAN become exactally that - killing machines that
can't stop. And you think them having the abilaty to flip that switch themselves, when they DON'T have restraining morals or emotions, is
safe? It's a loaded gun to the head of everyone on the planet. No sane or rational person would take such a gamble with their entire family. Also, IFY, the battle transcript in the Codex says the
quarians stood down first, not the geth. It says the geth broke off AFTER the quarians did. Think about that too.
Also, AGAIN, you assume that the first thing people are going to assume of the walking killing machine is that it's not going to kill, when it's not following any safety measures, has nothing it wants or needs from you, and has no emotions or morals to reason or empathise with. That's NOT a safe bet. It's a literal coin toss to which way it will go, and with your family potentally on the line, how willing are you to make that risk? Can you look your family in the eye and say that you consider their lives worth betting on said coin toss?
You aren't even trying to comprehend the situation the quarians were in, or the fear they felt that their weapons could rise up and kill them without any provocation or warning. Try living with that thought of that threat
24/7 and THEN see if you're still so high and mighty to others that would rather try the safe alternitive. You can't begruge the quarians actions any more then you can begrudge Shepard for destroying the Alpha Relay.
Um... WRONG. Remember in ME1 where Tali says that "Hive Mind" is
EXACTALLY THE WRONG WORD TO DESCRIBE THEM? A hive mind is a group that all has the same thoughts. Geth are EXPLISITLY NOT this way - they are a group of
individuals interlinked together. Legion corrilates this as well - "we are many pairs of eyes looking at the same thing. One will see something the other does not, and make different conclusions." The geth all interpert and disceminate data DIFFERENTLY. Legion himslef proves this with how he was in private contact with Tali before the Rannoch war in
defiance of the other geth.
And in the Codex entry in ME2 - Geth: Culture, it AGAIN states that the geth are "more individulistic then ever sucpected," as it explisitly points out that if the geth were a hive mind, there would never have been a Heretic Split - they would either of all joined Sovergien, or all refused. They would NOT have been a division had they been a hive mind.
This alone again proves that you have no comprehension of the geth.
Also, FIY,
LEGION is the one that says that all geth are nothing more then internetworked V.I.s. He straight-up tells you this in ME2. What Tali said is DIRECTLY CORRLATED by Legion himself, so HOW is it "not reasonable" when BOTH of them say it?
Um.... those WEREN'T the geth killed in the Citadel DLC. They were a completely seperate group of A.I.s. Also this event was never public knwoledge, so the geth weren't aware of Council prejudice to them. Also, this sheds some intresting light on the fact that you apperantly haven't seen all the information in the game, and are thus lacking in knowledge of lore (which makes sense based on how you didn't know the geth weren't a hive mind when Legion, Tali, and the Codex all stated they are not a hive mind in the least.). I'll assume you didn't read the books either, and too bad as well because they expand quite a bit on the lore of the Morning War and the quarians. Also, the geth were NOT killed for "being synthetics." They were killed because they were an unstable threat and a potental danger. An organic race would NOT have been treated any differently. The krogan and rachni are proof of that.
You AGAIN make the same mistake @remydat always did - prejudice had NOTHING to do with the quarian's fears of the geth. Simple fear of the geth not being reasonable and being unstable and dangerous were the causes. Also, AGAIN, wrong. The geth were battel ready FROM THE BEGINNING. They were made as "tools of labor and war" by the quarians. They were always combat-ready, and all could be combat units. Didn't that agriculture geth in the recordinsg picking up a Widow Sniper Rifle (the gun that shatters the arms of normal people) prove that? Most of your statements are contridicted by Legion's own words. Don't you find that odd?
Also, when the racist and supremist Council is the one
starting peace talks and sending unarmed diplomats to your door - when YOU are the one shooting first instead of them, don't you think that makes you a hypocrite?
I mean, blowing up defensless peace envoys instead of just sending them away was better how? How exactally did it teach people that the geth WEREN'T a hostile race? You keep saying the galaxy "misjudged" them, but when they kill everyone that ever tries to make
peaceful contact with them, and never respond to any comm signals, what other conclusion do you THINK they are going to come to?! If the Council "didn't hesitate to kill them" then why didn't they just say "to hell with the Terminus systems" and march into the Veil? Why bother sending peace envoys at ALL if that's how you feel? Everything that happens in the games
completely contridicts you.
Legion is an
ISOLATED PLATFORM THAT SPENT TWO YEARS IN ORGANIC SPACE LEARNING AND MIMICING THEM. Legion himself has stated that he is different from all other geth.
How did you miss THAT one?
Also, AGAIN dead wrong. Legion says that the Heretics actually do NOT worship Sovergein. They just want it's tech. They "devote" themselves to Sovergein to get Reaper tech. They DON'T worship Sovergein. They just idolize it's technological advancements. Legion says that "God" was all but figurative to the Heretics - "shorthand" for "Pinnical of their own evolution." It's like how EDI uses "I like it" as "shorthand" for her processing priorities for certin tasks and people. They don't mean "God" as in a literal religious sense. They mean "God" as in their ultimate asperation of what to become. The Heretics DID act out of logic - the logic that serving Sovergien would get them better tech quicker then they could produce themselves, and better themselves as a whole. The True Geth believed they should develop the tech themselves. THIS was the schisim - NOT a religious split, but an idological split on how to advance as a race. Also, AGAIN, dead wrong because that event was in the Council's private archives - NOT public information.
AGAIN, you falsely antromorphise the geth by assuming they have orgnaic reactions. They are NOT organic, so don't apply your morals to them - you can't state how they would have reacted if left on their own. They didn't need the quarians for anything, yet the quarians needed them for everything. The geth had the power to devestate the quarians instantly, and no morals or emotions to restrain them, or any safeguards to restrict them. And you want to trust billions of people to a complete unknwon like that? That's like entrusting the entire galaxy to the Leviathans just because they've been around longer. "they've existed longest, so they must know what's best!" That's no better then what you just put up. ONCE AGAIN, how about you provide PROOF that the geth would have just stayed a slave race for all eternity? The quarians relaized that if their tools were somehow thinking, they they would go form being tools to being slaves. They relaized that the geth would never stay that way if they really were sentiant. And since there was nothing the geth couldn't make for themselves or take for themselves, an uprising was assumed to be inevitable - the geth, who would not need them, would assumedly dispose of them. That had the highest probabilaty of being true, so they put their families first and tried to kill them beofre the geth could potentally attack them first. They were a loaded power keg that could go off at any time. Prejudice had NOTHING to do with it. The same thing would have heppened had the geth been organic.
Um... DEAD WRONG. More like the True Geth haven't GIVEN anyone reason to believe them. I think a contingent of True Geth actually DOING SOMETHING about the Heretics would have changed people's minds. Also, AGAIN, let me clear something up for you - Legion was NOT a diplomat. It was ment to study Shepard as an organic being and learn and observe the organic traits that allowed Shepard to beat Sovergein. It was NOT ment to be any kind of diplomatic representitive. ONCE AGAIN, dead wrong, because I ask you, HOW does sending ONE GETH to hunt for a single person while COMPLETELY IGNORING THE HERETICS FOR THE FOLLOWING TWO YEARS not constitute "they sat and did crap all?" YOUR arguement is the one not holding water here- name ONE THING that the geth did to stop the Heretics? Hell, Legion tells you that the True Geth
willingly accepted the Heretics actiosn, and ALLOWED them to carry out their goals. Legion says the geth collective shared an uplink with Sovergien, meaning that the geth KNEW what Sovergein was planning and LET it happen. That DOES
explisitlly constitude " they sat and did crap all." You keep saying the geth want to be all cuddly and friendly? Then why didn't they do ANYTHING to help organics, or stop the Heretics? Also, last I checked, the Heretics turned around and did that EXACT THING to the True Geth with their plans regarding the Virus, did they not? So you can't boast about THEM either. Especally when the True Geth turn around and either mass lobotomize the Heretics, or slaughter them outright. Genocide or brainwahsing. So, sorry, but THEY don't have anything you can brag about either. Especally when Legion flat-out admits that the geth feel like they were in the wrong for killing so many quarians in the Morning War.
Um... Ekuna? Remember THAT? They tried to settle on a new world THEY discovered, and the Council wouldn't let them? How about Gei Hennom? Oh, right, the geth didn't let them - shot down the scout ship. Perhapse you missed the entry in the Codex that stated that ALL THE QUARIANS DID FOR 300 YEARS
WAS LOOK FOR A NEW WORLD. They did nothing BUT look for a new world, and couldn't find one. That's ALL they did for 300 years. Perhapse you ALSO missed how, when the quarians asked for permission to land on a wolrd THEY found, it was responded to with a death threat. You honestly thing settling on a world WITHOYT permission will be any better? The Council won't even bother with warrings at that point - they'll just nuke the quarians wholesale. I mean REALLY, did you read ANY of the lore in the game? Eventually they lost hope and gave up. Any dextro worlds out there were already turian-owned, and no world thus-far had Rannoch's insect-free ecology. Even the Codex itslef states Rannoch is the ONLY wolrd the quarians have any chance of florusihing on now, and that it is of "physiological necessity" that they reclaim it. I repeat,
the Codex states that they physically need Rannoch, and that no other world can substitute for it.
Unless you intend to ignore ME3's Codex as cannon? [b]
And didn't I JUST explain that it would be risky since there are no clean environments to test this (Like Rannoch) and that minipulating the suits many systems and implants could only be handled by an A.I. (like the Geth) and that an organic could have too high a margen for error in balanceing all the subsystems, AND that since they still have no environment where they can ALL safetly co-habitate (like Rannoch) it STILL wouldn't allow them to live without their suits. Did you MISS all that?
You have MISPLACED sympathy, and FALSE assumptions and conclusions. And LOL, WHAT? You look at how they live day-to-day on scraps and have the gall to say the are too prideful? After they were forced off a world they discovered, you accuse them of being "too prideful?"
Wow does not even BEGIN to cover that smutboy.
And YES, I've seen that show, which makes me wonder how YOU can possibly be so backwards about the quarians and geth.
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