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Was the Krysae in debut form truly overpowered?


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soulstriker09

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I'll just say it was in every FBWGP farming lobby...

Used it rarely though since I didn't like its mechanics... regardless of its OPness.
It created bad habits of generally not aiming properly .___.

But since I got a taste of its original RoF, my krysae won't see the light of day again. (too much rage clicking)

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Kalas Magnus

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Muhkida wrote...

The only bad thing about the gun was the occasional "missing round per clip" bug. But that's mainly because you didn't have to aim and just mash with damn thing.

thats why I didn't use it

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It was ridiculously powerful. I used it with the human infiltrator and groups of mooks were just blow to bits. Phantoms were not any better than an assault trooper against it. Bosses were not a problem since you simply needed to shoot near them rather than at them.

Along with cloak's aggro passing capability, you were untouchable. While your team mates were running around being chased, you simply used them as concentrators to gather enemies then area attack the lot (bit like juggernauts now).

The 3 or 4 gold games where i used it was very much a funny experience until it got kind of boring though the credits were easy. And to top it off, i was doing it with the krysae ONE (just unlocked at that time).

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I never liked it. Took 3 shots to kill a Cannibal on a lot of classes.

...trouble is, it took 3 shots to kill 3 cannibals, and you didn't have to aim. On Infiltrators, it was definitely a roflstomp for even vaguely skilled players.

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Never did use it much back then..but I suppose it was OP on an pre nerfed infiltrators.
That thing would just turn masses in to meat chunks.

I think increase in RoF and a qicker zoom without touching the dmg it now has wouldn't make it OP and the gun would be usable again.

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I used it back when I was playing PUG Silver and really hated it. The Javelin offers a similar capability but way more powerful.

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Kalas Magnus wrote...

No

The gi was

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Caldari Ghost

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Robosexual wrote...

Here's an example:

On a GI, with Proxy Mine, I killed 3 Pyro's in 2 shots.

you can do that with may other guns as well.

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Sketfish wrote...

Yes, on a Geth infiltrator it was an abomination.


I feel like both him and the other infiltrators were more to blame for the Krysae nerf. Hell, nerfs in general. Eighty percent damage increase with all weapons is no joke.

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Makai81 wrote...

I used it back when I was playing PUG Silver and really hated it. The Javelin offers a similar capability but way more powerful.


The Javelin's also Ultra Rare, Single Target (albeit w/ extreme piercing capability), and weighs about as much as a small elephant.

But, y'know....apples and oranges.Image IPB

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oO Stryfe Oo wrote...

Makai81 wrote...

I used it back when I was playing PUG Silver and really hated it. The Javelin offers a similar capability but way more powerful.


The Javelin's also Ultra Rare, Single Target (albeit w/ extreme piercing capability), and weighs about as much as a small elephant.

But, y'know....apples and oranges.Image IPB

I hate that anology.

Sometimes I want something crisp and moist. other times I want something sour and juicy.

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Kirchroa Alaaf

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I never used it in MP because I hated the gun in the Single Player. It took all the fun out of the Single Player instantly. I used it for 2 missions and dropped it, I just stood behind a pillar and could kill all the enemies within minutes.

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The Krysae might have not been nerfed if TC wasn't that broken back then. Opinion back then was it was good on every other class but turned the game into a joke in the hands of any infiltrator.

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Tokenusername wrote...

It was bad, real bad. I didn't even want to play in a game with someone using it, because I didn't even get to play when they did.


This.

It was the most broken thing this game ever saw.

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Remember that kid who used to always get butt-hurt and take his toys and go home?? The Krysae is what he wanted all along...

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Infiltrators ruined it. It wasn't an I win button on any other class.

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Endorlf wrote...
I didn't get to play MP in the days when the Krysae was first introduced, and with all these nerfs, the Krysae is an underwhelming weapon without a real niche.

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It does have a niche now - it's still pretty good on Infiltrators (particularly the GI) as a sort of sniper-ised Falcon; load out with Incendiary ammo and exploderise mooks as they spawn from the other side of the map. Like the Falcon though it's less than ideal vs bosses.

The problem is that wasn't a niche at launch, that was instant win mode - it would chew through everything if you strapped it on an Infiltrator: high damage, high fire rate, 3-shot clip, air burst detonation and very low weight combined with all the damage buffs from TC (including the SR damage buff at tier 6).

It was so OP on Infils that most PuGs I played had 2 Krysae/Infils in and I regularly dropped into 3 Krysae/Infil lobbies... and in those circumstances your best bet was to either leave the lobby, switch to a Krysae/Infil yourself or let the game start and go make a coffee or something (great if you were a leecher I guess).

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megabeast37215 wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

It was bad, real bad. I didn't even want to play in a game with someone using it, because I didn't even get to play when they did.


This.

It was the most broken thing this game ever saw.


Although, I do admit....when we failed the weekend op and Banshees would spawn with Geth (or any faction really).  It was quite hilarious to hear newer players who were using the Krysae/Infil FBW farming build to scream, "WTF is she doing here....this is suppose to be GETH!!!".   Then hit their cloak and run around the map like an idiot on fire.

Good times...

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It was broken, it was OP, it was an abomination! But heck did I have a lot of fun using it at first! Everything just exploded in the spawn!

I actually got tired of it though even before they nerfed it because it made the game boring after a while, and it required no skill at all to use.

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Ghostknife72 wrote...

Although, I do admit....when we failed the weekend op and Banshees would spawn with Geth (or any faction really).  It was quite hilarious to hear newer players who were using the Krysae/Infil FBW farming build to scream, "WTF is she doing here....this is suppose to be GETH!!!".   Then hit their cloak and run around the map like an idiot on fire.

Good times...


Good times indeed :wub:

If I got into a lobby with farmers I would make sure to kite the Banshee to the back of the room so it would end up behind them. Was fun to see them using all of their medigels in one wave because the line broke down and they ran around like beheaded chickens. People need to learn to hold the line!

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It took several nerfs for the team to notice the Tactical Cloak is the real problem.

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OP as Sh*t.

There was no challenge to the game.

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stysiaq wrote...

It took several nerfs for the team to notice the Tactical Cloak is the real problem.


To be fair, the fact that the Krysae is a Sniper Rifle, and therefore benefits from the TC tier 6 SR bonus as well, didn't really help matters.

Huge spike damage on "one shot, one target" (unless they line up for you) weapons is absolutely fine; it's great against bosses not so good against mobs.

Huge spike damage on the original Krysae (high damage, good RoF, AoE air burst detonation) really, really wasn't; it was amazing vs everything especially as you could get all 3 shots into a single decloak bonus window.

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Incredible AOE damage, stagger, and proximity detonation which didn't require you to aim. Yes it was OPed as hell, yet some scrubs still failed with it. Put it on a Geth with HM and the enemy couldn't even round a corner to shoot.

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Upfunkt wrote...

Infiltrators ruined it. It wasn't an I win button on any other class.

LOL. I suppose inifinite cobra missile isn't a guaranteed I win in the hands of some people.