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[tybert7]

 For those who don't recall my meaning, basically every mage in DA2 was an abomination time bomb waiting to explode, companions included.  Even the most measured characters went all abom-jihad when their backs were against the wall.


I hope there are mages with stronger wills than that in the sequel, but I am not sure what to expect after seeing how fragile they made mages out to be in the last game.

DA2 Mage:  Looks like I got a splinter....

GGRRRAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH  Demon explodes from mages body and starts disintegrating infants...

[K_Tabris]

Let's hope not.

Unfortunately, with the mages being largely cut off from the Chantry, and furthermore lyrium access, we are probably going to see more turn to blood magic to sustain their mana.

DA2 seems to imply that a blood mage will automatically flirt with and host demons, whereas this was not the case in DA:O. I'd rather see the more balanced pragmatic approach Jowan and Morrigan had towards blood magic (and to a lesser extent, Merrill) than Orsino, the serial killer, et. al. from DA2

[Fast Jimmy]

Yes. Just like all Templars will be oblivious to Mages casting magic right in front of them.

[sandalisthemaker]

I believe that there are lore reasons for this.
Something about the veil being especially thin in the area around Kirkwall, due to all of the suffering/sacrifices of slaves since the time when Kirkwall was occupied by Tevinter. Also, Corypheus' presence had a strange negative effect on the area.
Yes, I do hope that mages are less likely to become abominations in DA3. I don't mind the rampant use of blood magic so much, though. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

Modifié par sandalisthemaker, 30 mai 2013 - 01:11 .

[n7stormrunner]

of course not... they will be much much worse... irving will show up just so he can use blood magic... yes even if he is dead, in fact he'll show up more if he dead

[The Six Path of Pain]

Hehe so true...DA:O mages were were pretty much tortured into becoming abominations.DA2 mages(as the popular term goes)sneezed and became abominations XD...Hopefully not,but as KallianaTabris put it we most likely will be seeing a good portion of mages wielding Blood Magic.

[Nole]

It doesn't matter, I'll stand with templars till the end.

[IanPolaris]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Yes. Just like all Templars will be oblivious to Mages casting magic right in front of them.

Let's not forget letting a Mage Hawke (even an openly bloodmage Hawke) become Viscount if he did the Templar's dirty work.

-Polaris

[Chiramu]

KallianaTabris wrote...


Unfortunately, with the mages being largely cut off from the Chantry, and furthermore lyrium access, we are probably going to see more turn to blood magic to sustain their mana.

I've seen this before, I believe in Warcraft 3 The Frozen Throne, Kael'thas and his people were cut off from their source of magic and had to find alternative sources. 

Hm. 

Lets hope they can do something different.

[Nole]

Chiramu wrote...

KallianaTabris wrote...


Unfortunately, with the mages being largely cut off from the Chantry, and furthermore lyrium access, we are probably going to see more turn to blood magic to sustain their mana.

I've seen this before, I believe in Warcraft 3 The Frozen Throne, Kael'thas and his people were cut off from their source of magic and had to find alternative sources. 

Hm. 

Lets hope they can do something different.

And that's how the Blood Elfs were born.

[Nole]

Double post hue.

Modifié par WittingEight65, 30 mai 2013 - 01:17 .

[Chiramu]

WittingEight65 wrote...

Chiramu wrote...

KallianaTabris wrote...


Unfortunately, with the mages being largely cut off from the Chantry, and furthermore lyrium access, we are probably going to see more turn to blood magic to sustain their mana.

I've seen this before, I believe in Warcraft 3 The Frozen Throne, Kael'thas and his people were cut off from their source of magic and had to find alternative sources. 

Hm. 

Lets hope they can do something different.

And that's how the Blood Elfs were born.

I know, I played the RTS.

[kinderschlager]

tybert7 wrote...

 For those who don't recall my meaning, basically every mage in DA2 was an abomination time bomb waiting to explode, companions included.  Even the most measured characters went all abom-jihad when their backs were against the wall.


I hope there are mages with stronger wills than that in the sequel, but I am not sure what to expect after seeing how fragile they made mages out to be in the last game.

DA2 Mage:  Looks like I got a splinter....

GGRRRAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH  Demon explodes from mages body and starts disintegrating infants...

kinda has a point.

people actually NOTICING my blood mage would ALSO be nice.

*sprays blood everywhere, bandits twitch and die....no one notices*

[kinderschlager]

KallianaTabris wrote...

Let's hope not.

Unfortunately, with the mages being largely cut off from the Chantry, and furthermore lyrium access, we are probably going to see more turn to blood magic to sustain their mana.

DA2 seems to imply that a blood mage will automatically flirt with and host demons, whereas this was not the case in DA:O. I'd rather see the more balanced pragmatic approach Jowan and Morrigan had towards blood magic (and to a lesser extent, Merrill) than Orsino, the serial killer, et. al. from DA2

they seem to like making ALL blood mages the bad guys now though sadly

[kinderschlager]

IanPolaris wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Yes. Just like all Templars will be oblivious to Mages casting magic right in front of them.

Let's not forget letting a Mage Hawke (even an openly bloodmage Hawke) become Viscount if he did the Templar's dirty work.

-Polaris

nvr sided with the templars, but yeah.......openly practice blood magic in front of meridith in act 2.....doesn't bat an eyelash....

[thats1evildude]

Yes, DA3 should have more sane, non-villainous mages like Jowan, Connor, Uldred, Zathrian, Avernus, Caladrius, the Baroness or the unnamed blood mages in the Circle Tower, the Brecilian Forest or Denerim.

[NoForgiveness]

this is one reason I really liked merril, shes a blood mage yet shes one of the best people in the game, even with the rather dumb mistake she makes with the demon.

[tybert7]

KallianaTabris wrote...

Let's hope not.

Unfortunately, with the mages being largely cut off from the Chantry, and furthermore lyrium access, we are probably going to see more turn to blood magic to sustain their mana.

DA2 seems to imply that a blood mage will automatically flirt with and host demons, whereas this was not the case in DA:O. I'd rather see the more balanced pragmatic approach Jowan and Morrigan had towards blood magic (and to a lesser extent, Merrill) than Orsino, the serial killer, et. al. from DA2

jolee bindos class mages did not exist in DA2, only dark or light jedi allowed... actually only dark in DA2.

[K_Tabris]

thats1evildude wrote...

Yes, DA3 should have more sane, non-villainous mages like Jowan, Connor, Uldred, Zathrian, Avernus, Caladrius, the Baroness or the unnamed blood mages in the Circle Tower, the Brecilian Forest or Denerim.

Avernus, Merrill, Jowan and Morrigan are not villainous (alothough some may be said to be slightly crazy). The sarcasm doesn't apply; it misses the main point, which is that blood magic is not inherently evil. it's a tool to power a mage's mana. Just because blood magic can accomplish potentally evil and powerful things does not make all blood mages deranged villains.  My hope is that DA3 will do a better job of showing this in the characters and the side quests.

[In Exile]

KallianaTabris wrote...
 it misses the main point, which is that blood magic is not inherently evil. 

Just like torture isn't evil, it's just a tool? 

There are certain things that blood magic is capable of that are, arguably, inherently evil (such as mind control). 

[n7stormrunner]

umm.. uldred was a bit of a villain and of questionable sanity... the baroness was a one period and insane. all unnamed blood mages count by default except one or two but I surpose they count as sane

Caladrius was a slaver, which means villain... but I guess he was sane

[K_Tabris]

In Exile wrote...

KallianaTabris wrote...
 it misses the main point, which is that blood magic is not inherently evil. 

Just like torture isn't evil, it's just a tool? 

There are certain things that blood magic is capable of that are, arguably, inherently evil (such as mind control). 

Yep, that's not what I said. Blood can be used in place of lyrium. I am not talking about mind domination. You, just like the citizens of Thedas, are so quick to jump to the negative results and potentials of blood magic rather than just seeing it for what it is in it's raw form. No need to throw in extreme irrelevant examples to draw parallels from. 

[Dave of Canada]

I'm hoping we'll have less mages and templar going insane, less Holocaust analogies and more both sides having legitimate grievances.

[NoForgiveness]

In Exile wrote...

KallianaTabris wrote...
 it misses the main point, which is that blood magic is not inherently evil. 

Just like torture isn't evil, it's just a tool? 

There are certain things that blood magic is capable of that are, arguably, inherently evil (such as mind control). 

my shotgun is capable of shooting a child.  it is also capable of shooting a rapist. that doesn't mean it has shot either. 

[Dave of Canada]

MR_PN wrote...

my shotgun is capable of shooting a child.  it is also capable of shooting a rapist. that doesn't mean it has shot either. 

What's the point of having it?