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NuclearTech76 wrote...

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I dont like snipers or shotguns in this game so the GI aint for me.

Do you like SMG or ARs? Because he can use those better than just about any other kit in the game.


Yeah I forgot I hate most of the ARs too. the ones I like are better on other kits. 

I just realized over 80 % of the weapons in this game are lacklustre. I dont know if I will have the staying power to take the ones I like to level 10

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NuclearTech76 wrote...

Most diverse array of builds of any kit. Perfect synergy in not only his three powers but also his melee. He can be the best sniper in the game, best SMG user in the game, best shotgunner in the game, best melee kit in the game. He is stupidly OP in the right hands yet sucks in the hands of crappy players unlike the Ghost, AIU, etc.


Agreed.

However, not too sure about "best melee kit" though.  Not at all saying melee-GI sucks though, just that I think the Cabal is better than the GI in that aspect.

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NuclearTech76 wrote...

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Paladin has better synergy with powers....there is no way you can full spec him and not create a combo, GI is better only becoz of weapons being op to powers but even then a paladin well played can go as well as the geth.
On being well balanced i may agree but synergy of powers i may not

Paladin is another good kit as far as synergy with all powers and his melee. Still not as good as the GI but close. BW should've made more kits like the Paladin though which are solid all around. There is always one clunky power that just doesn't belong.

As i said GI may have a very slight edge bcoz of weapons but yeah BW should have made more kits like them, these two stand out as they have a variety of builds ( paladin>melee,splosionist,cqc with pirahna and the like )

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Weapons are mostly lackluster only until you find the right kit/load out/style to us it. If guns are underwhelming to you, you need to try them with one of the best weapons handlers. The best weapons handlers in a broad sense are the GI, Destroyer, and TSol - they improve any gun they touch significantly.

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*sniffles*

"someone finally got it said...thank you OP, thank you"

*rushes off amidst stifled sobs of joy*

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GI is my go to kit. I have tried him with snipers and shotguns, but I can never get the constant flow of death that comes with using the Harrier. If I could ever get my Hurricane to level up I'm sure that would be another good option for my play style.

I get what you are saying though. You have to use everything in conjunction (TC->proxy->shoot) to be most effective, while at the same time always being aware of his weakness and staying out of trouble.

He really was a well made kit. To be as OP (in the right hands) as he has been since the beginning, but still one of the lesser used kits says it all.

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The title made me think this was a necro. After I didnt see 'you got ballz son' I had to go back and check the creation date.

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As stated before, the paladin is for me the most complete kit in the game and the best kit. He doesn't even need a gun and can easily keep pace with a GI.

The most diverse array of build for a single kit is for me the Awakened collector : Power build (Biotic explosion), weapon build with or without dark sphere, DOT build (underrated but very effective) etc...

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I prefer BEs and tech combos, so I rarely ever play the GI. And HM is terrible on the eyes. I avoid playing it as much as the Geth Sloth. For me, highest DPS doesn't equate to fun.

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Stupidly OP in the right hands = bad design.

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To be fair, it was pretty OP at the start. Power creep has more than caught up though.

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iOnlySignIn wrote...

best sniper in the game

GI

best SMG user in the game

GI

best shotgunner in the game

GI

best melee kit in the game

GI

Though he is the best with the Talon, and when you average across everything, yeah.

There you go.

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HolyAvenger wrote...

Stupidly OP in the right hands = bad design.


I have seen more than a few kits "stupidly OP" in the right hands ....COUGHtmbCOUGH......

Like I said, to be as good as he is, yet not overused, leans more towards balanced, not bad design.

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My Geth Infiltrator is a melee machine. Bzzzt, zap, melt D:

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ISHYGDDT wrote...

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If I had written this topic I would have named it "The GI is the most unbalanced kit in the game." 


Grenade spam says hi.


Grenade spam doesn't do everything better than everyone else.

NuclearTech76 wrote...

It only excels at everything because most other kits have one or two crappy powers.


Not really, they're just designed with some concept of balance. I can think of only one or two kits where I spec entirely out of one of the powers. There's only two possibilities here:

1. The GI is truly the perfectly designed kit. All kits should attempt to recreate his level of synergy.
2. The GI is unbalanced and poorly designed.

I'm fairly certain that if #1 was done, the game would be absolutely broken. Designing a kit that can do everything by itself in a co-op game is a bad idea.

High DPS kits should not a) be given debuffs and B) shouldn't have CC powers, much less the best CC power in the game. Frankly I don't know what the devs were thinking putting two weapon buffing powers on one kit - it's not that much different than giving a single kit Adrenaline Rush and Devastator Mode.

As far as I'm concerned there needs to be some level of balance between CC, durability, and DPS. The higher a kits' DPS, the lower its' CC and durability should be. And let's be honest here: with a cyclonic III or IV, the GI really isn't that squishy - as if being squishy is even really a drawback when you have a wallhack that gives you 100% certainty you're not going to be flanked while you take out a spawn.

Modifié par lightswitch, 30 mai 2013 - 02:27 .


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NuclearTech76 wrote...

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Kroguard (Gold) and Krolord (Platinum), and it's not even close

Krolord is a damn instakill waiting to happen in most games. Kroguard cannot keep pace with a well played melee GI; he melts whole spawns in under a second on gold.

lmao l2p plox

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 30 mai 2013 - 02:50 .


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Ledgend1221 wrote...

There you go.

You suck with anything but the GI, got it.

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SWFanatic wrote...

how can a thing be most perfect?
if its less perfect then its not perfect by definition

also
wouldn't it depend on ones definition of perfection?
perhaps one might define perfection as biotic kabooms

his light melee is less perfect
also doesn't have any jiggly bum hop action

but he does have a flashlight

actually his light melee is perfect. as long as you make the first move you can out-stagger any non-phantom trooper in the game, giving you time to blow his head off.

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The GI is indeed one of the best if not the best kit in the game. His poor cousin, the Geth Engineer, is however quite under-rated. I've been playing a lot of GE lately and have grown to really like this kit. HM, Overload to strip shields and to detonate tech bursts and FEs primed by ammo and 3 ranks in the turret for fast shield recharge.

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lightswitch wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

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If I had written this topic I would have named it "The GI is the most unbalanced kit in the game." 


Grenade spam says hi.


Grenade spam doesn't do everything better than everyone else.

NuclearTech76 wrote...

It only excels at everything because most other kits have one or two crappy powers.


Not really, they're just designed with some concept of balance. I can think of only one or two kits where I spec entirely out of one of the powers. There's only two possibilities here:

1. The GI is truly the perfectly designed kit. All kits should attempt to recreate his level of synergy.
2. The GI is unbalanced and poorly designed.

I'm fairly certain that if #1 was done, the game would be absolutely broken. Designing a kit that can do everything by itself in a co-op game is a bad idea.

High DPS kits should not a) be given debuffs and B) shouldn't have CC powers, much less the best CC power in the game. Frankly I don't know what the devs were thinking putting two weapon buffing powers on one kit - it's not that much different than giving a single kit Adrenaline Rush and Devastator Mode.

As far as I'm concerned there needs to be some level of balance between CC, durability, and DPS. The higher a kits' DPS, the lower its' CC and durability should be. And let's be honest here: with a cyclonic III or IV, the GI really isn't that squishy - as if being squishy is even really a drawback when you have a wallhack that gives you 100% certainty you're not going to be flanked while you take out a spawn.

Lololol.
Yeah grenade kits excel at killing stuff better than other kits.
The GI being unbalanced is totally independent of the fact that he is perfectly synergized. You're either good or bad at the game, regardless the GI has powers that synch well.

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Koenig888 wrote...

The GI is indeed one of the best if not the best kit in the game. His poor cousin, the Geth Engineer, is however quite under-rated. I've been playing a lot of GE lately and have grown to really like this kit. HM, Overload to strip shields and to detonate tech bursts and FEs primed by ammo and 3 ranks in the turret for fast shield recharge.

agreed, the GE is just as deadly, even when using just a GPSMG.

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SKhalazza wrote...

As stated before, the paladin is for me the most complete kit in the game and the best kit. He doesn't even need a gun and can easily keep pace with a GI.

The most diverse array of build for a single kit is for me the Awakened collector : Power build (Biotic explosion), weapon build with or without dark sphere, DOT build (underrated but very effective) etc...

Not even snap cheese keeps pace with a well played GI.

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Nope it's the Volguard. I base this entirely off of one game I played last night.

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Caldari Ghost wrote...

Koenig888 wrote...

The GI is indeed one of the best if not the best kit in the game. His poor cousin, the Geth Engineer, is however quite under-rated. I've been playing a lot of GE lately and have grown to really like this kit. HM, Overload to strip shields and to detonate tech bursts and FEs primed by ammo and 3 ranks in the turret for fast shield recharge.

agreed, the GE is just as deadly, even when using just a GPSMG.

IMO GE is the better mook cleaner of the two and GI the better boss dealer

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Nik6454 wrote...

Caldari Ghost wrote...

Koenig888 wrote...

The GI is indeed one of the best if not the best kit in the game. His poor cousin, the Geth Engineer, is however quite under-rated. I've been playing a lot of GE lately and have grown to really like this kit. HM, Overload to strip shields and to detonate tech bursts and FEs primed by ammo and 3 ranks in the turret for fast shield recharge.

agreed, the GE is just as deadly, even when using just a GPSMG.

IMO GE is the better mook cleaner of the two and GI the better boss dealer

agreed.