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[kinderschlager]

Chris Priestly wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Well this rather amusing exchange between Evil Chris and myself on Twitter definitely implies that DA3 is going to be for current gen. Though it doesn't confirm.

https://twitter.com/...588953252016128

Umm... it had nothing to do with any gen at all Ryan. I made a joke that a video of a monkey clapping cymbals would have been much easier to make than whatever it is we have made.

You aren't just reading too much into it, you are reading somethign that isn't there at all. Sorry.

you don't know!?!?

[coldsteelblue]

There has been a lot of speculation as to when DA:I is going to be released, I have seen web articles claiming that Bioware are experimenting with cross platform tech so that you can import your world state, I have read in the Official playstation Magazine (uk) that the game is going to be a Chirstmas release & I have come to this conclusion: DA:I is possibly going to be released on both present & next gen with the DA: Trilogy coming out a few month later for next gen, kind of like when ME: Trilogy was released, but this is just specualtion on my part. Seeing as how DA:I is going to be at E3 in a couple of weeks, we should no for certain then.

[Shevy]

I assume DA III will release for current gen consoles, maybe not this year, but 360/PS3 will be covered platforms. It's a matter of accessibility. If we are going to get next gen versions, only time can tell.

Modifié par Shevy_001, 01 juin 2013 - 10:33 .

[bEVEsthda]

Ninja Stan wrote...

Thibax wrote...

If Dragon Age 3 will be exclusive to X1 or other.

Bioware, be prepared.

Critics will be worse than DA2 and ME3 ending.

You mean they will threaten to boycott BioWare and EA games, call for executives and/or developers to be fired, accuse devs of being greedy money-grubbing elitist fascists who are betraying their core audience that made them famous? That just means critics will be exactly the same as with any major announcement people don't like, for every game that BioWare has ever released.

Internet declarations like that actually have very little effect on whether people end up buying or not buying the next game, and sales numbers are the only way to truly indicate how people view the company and the product. This is not to say that critics are wrong or unimportant, or that they should be dismissed, only that their online pronouncements are only one side of the story and not necessarily indicative of eventual behaviour.

Well, there are probably details in there that represent an idealized situation, as some EA executives would want to see it. Clearcut, with issues not interdependent. Realities is however a different matter. And discussions about what can be known or not known about sales numbers also don't affect realities. It's just another idealized fantasy that will be distorted towards unreality, by needs to cover ass or financial temptations.

I don't know how severe another **** storm will be, if DA3 aka DA:I becomes an XBox One exclusive. I suppose that would depend on many things we don't know now. About MS market plans and the XB, but also how big mindshare DA still has. But both because of the general desirability to re-establish the DA franshise, and the general strategic desirability to avoid more ****-storms (EA is approaching a critical limit), I know that I, personally, would at this stage advice EA not to venture into any exclusives with MS. At all.

Modifié par bEVEsthda, 01 juin 2013 - 01:03 .

[I Like Cats And]

LPPrince wrote...

Remember folks- gaming's a luxury, not a right.

I hope this is sarcasm. 

[OdanUrr]

Shouldn't we be glad that DAI won't release for a while still? After all, wasn't that what killed DA2, a short dev cycle?

[OdanUrr]

I Like Cats And wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Remember folks- gaming's a luxury, not a right.

I hope this is sarcasm. 

Insofar as video-games are nonessential I agree.

[MrCrabby]

Ninja Stan wrote...

Thibax wrote...

If Dragon Age 3 will be exclusive to X1 or other.

Bioware, be prepared.

Critics will be worse than DA2 and ME3 ending.

You mean they will threaten to boycott BioWare and EA games, call for executives and/or developers to be fired, accuse devs of being greedy money-grubbing elitist fascists who are betraying their core audience that made them famous? That just means critics will be exactly the same as with any major announcement people don't like, for every game that BioWare has ever released.

Internet declarations like that actually have very little effect on whether people end up buying or not buying the next game, and sales numbers are the only way to truly indicate how people view the company and the product. This is not to say that critics are wrong or unimportant, or that they should be dismissed, only that their online pronouncements are only one side of the story and not necessarily indicative of eventual behaviour.

Like you I am also baffled why the Xbox One's design or features has anthing to do with EA. I'm not a fan of Electronic Arts but they aren't responsible for what Microsoft does or doesn't do.

I agree in principle with what you are saying but bad word of mouth is not a good thing for any product. The thing to determine is if the bad word of mouth is just hot air from people looking to complain or if the product legitimately sucks. I would however like to point out that gaming "critics" (I am assuming you are refering to gaming critics) are taken about as seriously as a Loony Tunes cartoon.

http://www.metacriti...-duty-black-ops
http://www.metacriti...d-theft-auto-iv
http://www.metacriti...0/mass-effect-3
http://www.metacriti...c/dragon-age-ii

Quite a difference wouldn't you say?

Modifié par MrCrabby, 01 juin 2013 - 02:48 .

[Fishy]

If DA:I become an exclusive for the X1. Not only I won't purchase it, but I will have to give credit to the doomsayers of Bioware/EA.

But I really doubt that. THE X1 so far look risky and they have a very strong fanbase on PC. That would be ridiculous too. It's would be like Battlefield becoming a ps4 exclusive. Come on.

Or diablo 3 becoming a console title. Wait.

[LinksOcarina]

So can I ask something.

Why would everyone complain about it being an Xbox One exclusive when up to six years ago BioWare games were always exclusive?

I mean...yes it would suck if it goes back to that, but they can literally do what they want in the end. Does that really warrant a boycott?

[Fast Jimmy]

LinksOcarina wrote...

So can I ask something.

Why would everyone complain about it being an Xbox One exclusive when up to six years ago BioWare games were always exclusive?

I mean...yes it would suck if it goes back to that, but they can literally do what they want in the end. Does that really warrant a boycott?

I don't see how it would matter at all if the game was X1 or PS4 exclusvie, honestly. It still would mean you have to buy a new console to play the game. If you have to buy a new console, then it really isn't exclusionary to any previous set of players... a PS3 player can become an X1 player just as easily as a 360 player can. 

The only reason it might be unwanted is if you do not like the X1/PS4 and DA3 came out on that platform. That would be unfortunate, but I'm not sure anyone can really say they will/won't like a console that we know very little about. It sounds like MS is trying to scale back some features of the X1 that were already received badly and it also sounds like Sony has/had similar features for the PS4 that just weren't announced yet. So a lot can change.

What I think would be a smart move would be a current gen release, with a next gen "enhanced" version (maybe bundled with some DLC) coming out a few months down the line. If this next gen enhanced version was console exclusive, but the current gen release was for all platforms, this would be a fine enough proposal for all interested parties.

[Fast Jimmy]

Suprez30 wrote...

If DA:I become an exclusive for the X1. Not only I won't purchase it, but I will have to give credit to the doomsayers of Bioware/EA.

But I really doubt that. THE X1 so far look risky and they have a very strong fanbase on PC. That would be ridiculous too. It's would be like Battlefield becoming a ps4 exclusive. Come on.

Or diablo 3 becoming a console title. Wait.

DA3 will be coming out on the PC, that has been confirmed. Any of the discussions about an X1 exclusive mean just a CONSOLE exclusive. It will definitely be coming out on PC and consoles.

[Plaintiff]

LinksOcarina wrote...

So can I ask something.

Why would everyone complain about it being an Xbox One exclusive when up to six years ago BioWare games were always exclusive?

I mean...yes it would suck if it goes back to that, but they can literally do what they want in the end. Does that really warrant a boycott?

It's not "boycotting" to be unwilling or unable to shell out for a console you wouldn't otherwise buy, just to play Dragon Age. Not everybody can afford every console. If DAI was an Xbox exclusive, I likely wouldn't be buying it because Playstation has been my console of preference for the past decade.

[LinksOcarina]

Plaintiff wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

So can I ask something.

Why would everyone complain about it being an Xbox One exclusive when up to six years ago BioWare games were always exclusive?

I mean...yes it would suck if it goes back to that, but they can literally do what they want in the end. Does that really warrant a boycott?

It's not "boycotting" to be unwilling or unable to shell out for a console you wouldn't otherwise buy, just to play Dragon Age. Not everybody can afford every console. If DAI was an Xbox exclusive, I likely wouldn't be buying it because Playstation has been my console of preference for the past decade.

True, but I think the issue boils down to the console itself this time around, which is a first from recent memory. 

I don't know, I think that is a non-issue in the end because I am sure people will buy the console or get it on PC just to play it anyway, there is always that group. 

We shall see I guess, I doubt they will be exclusive at all. And i'm sure that the game will come on the 360 and PS3 anyway, since companies like EA are going to be backing current-gen consoles until 2017 at the least. 

Modifié par LinksOcarina, 01 juin 2013 - 05:42 .

[Otone360]

Ninja Stan wrote...

Thibax wrote...

If Dragon Age 3 will be exclusive to X1 or other.

Bioware, be prepared.

Critics will be worse than DA2 and ME3 ending.

You mean they will threaten to boycott BioWare and EA games, call for executives and/or developers to be fired, accuse devs of being greedy money-grubbing elitist fascists who are betraying their core audience that made them famous? That just means critics will be exactly the same as with any major announcement people don't like, for every game that BioWare has ever released.

Internet declarations like that actually have very little effect on whether people end up buying or not buying the next game, and sales numbers are the only way to truly indicate how people view the company and the product. This is not to say that critics are wrong or unimportant, or that they should be dismissed, only that their online pronouncements are only one side of the story and not necessarily indicative of eventual behaviour.

But they wouldn't make it exclusive, right? Right??

[Kurisumasu]

EA rarely ever does system exclusives so its nothing to worry about, they would never cheat themselves out of the money from possible PS4 owners their wayyyyy to greedy for that.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

LPPrince wrote...

Remember folks- gaming's a luxury, not a right.

Remember folks- Having a roof over your head is a luxury not a right.

[Plaintiff]

DinoSteve wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Remember folks- gaming's a luxury, not a right.

Remember folks- Having a roof over your head is a luxury not a right.

What is the point of this comparison? Games and rooves are both luxuries. Nobody is entitled to either one.

[Mr.House]

Quickest way to kill the PC/Sony players of DA intrest and incentive to buy DA3 would be making DA3 FailBone exclusive. Unless you want HAL to watch and talk to you.

Modifié par Mr.House, 01 juin 2013 - 07:56 .

[dewayne31]

I believe Mr. Laidew in the last couple said that were still on target for this year they had more a fe times that da:i is for this gen so take that for what you will

[K_Tabris]

Ninja Stan wrote...

The Wolf Man wrote...

All I can say is... If this rumor here is true: http://www.examiner....etails-revealed

then EA and Bioware just screwed me out of DA3....

Neither BioWare nor EA chooses which platform you buy, nor have they made any announcements as to what platform DAI will be released for. If the game comes out on a platofrm you neither have nor want, I'm not sure how that's "their fault." No promises have been made, and as I mentioned earlier, they will likely announce with plenty of time for you to make your own decisions on platform purchases. That's your choice to not purchase a platform on which their game is played, not them screwing you out of your rightfully owed game.

Would it really be a good business move for them since including more consoles would likely increase sales?

[Mr.House]

OdanUrr wrote...

Shouldn't we be glad that DAI won't release for a while still? After all, wasn't that what killed DA2, a short dev cycle?

True, but as of now DA3 has already had a much lnoger dev cycle then DA2. The issue with it coming out in 2013 is marketing and hyping. There is simply not enough time to do any of that or showcase the game properly
 Though this can be done on purpose after the ME2/DA2/ME3 hype fail.


DA3 is already promisng because of the longer dev time and the writing staff. I am still concerned about the gameplay because while Mike is a nice guy, I just don't like his vision for the seires gameplay. Time will tell if he learned from DA2.

Modifié par Mr.House, 01 juin 2013 - 08:19 .

[Silas7]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Suprez30 wrote...

If DA:I become an exclusive for the X1. Not only I won't purchase it, but I will have to give credit to the doomsayers of Bioware/EA.

But I really doubt that. THE X1 so far look risky and they have a very strong fanbase on PC. That would be ridiculous too. It's would be like Battlefield becoming a ps4 exclusive. Come on.

Or diablo 3 becoming a console title. Wait.

DA3 will be coming out on the PC, that has been confirmed. Any of the discussions about an X1 exclusive mean just a CONSOLE exclusive. It will definitely be coming out on PC and consoles.

This is fantastic news for people who already have a solid Pc and are leerie of buying a "next gen console"