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[RiouHotaru]

Deviija wrote...

Thane is confirmed. There *will* be alien sexytime. The ESRB rating confirmed human/alien sexytime for both genders, as well as a 'talk it out' option. It isn't entirely unfathomable that Tali/Shepard or Garrus/Shepard could talk out their feelings rather than have a bodice-ripping ten second love scene.

Bottom line is that anything is possible right now for these last LI slots.

Yeah, I would definitely take getting to talk my feelings out over having a sex scene, rather than nothing at all.

[jlb524]

Wynne wrote...

jakl201 wrote...

Another reason that I believe that there
wouldn't be homosexual male shepard is the fact that the stock face is
based off of the actor Vanderbeek (Sp?). If the actor didn't give the
go ahead that he'd be featured in a homosexual situation, bioware's
hands would be tied. Sure, not everyone would use the sculpted head,
but what were they gonna do? Let custom heads be gay but not the
default?

*gawks* Do you not realize how wacky that sounds?! You think that he didn't sign a disclaimer and get money for the use of his appearance? You imagine they're gonna to call him into the studio and say, "Hey, Mr. Vanderloo, would you mind very terribly much if we made it possible for Shepard to be gay? Puh-LEEEEEEASE?" Nonsense. "If the actor didn't give the go ahead..." He's not an actor, he's a model. He's also not the Emperor of Bioware. He's a guy they paid to scan his face so that they could animate--you were kidding, weren't you? You were kidding. You know what a video game is, you were just seeing how people would react.

Yes, and Mr. Vanderloo doesn't seem at all upset that their are videos of him circulating around the internet showing him punching a female reporter.

[jakl201]

jlb524 wrote...

Wynne wrote...

jakl201 wrote...

Another reason that I believe that there
wouldn't be homosexual male shepard is the fact that the stock face is
based off of the actor Vanderbeek (Sp?). If the actor didn't give the
go ahead that he'd be featured in a homosexual situation, bioware's
hands would be tied. Sure, not everyone would use the sculpted head,
but what were they gonna do? Let custom heads be gay but not the
default?

*gawks* Do you not realize how wacky that sounds?! You think that he didn't sign a disclaimer and get money for the use of his appearance? You imagine they're gonna to call him into the studio and say, "Hey, Mr. Vanderloo, would you mind very terribly much if we made it possible for Shepard to be gay? Puh-LEEEEEEASE?" Nonsense. "If the actor didn't give the go ahead..." He's not an actor, he's a model. He's also not the Emperor of Bioware. He's a guy they paid to scan his face so that they could animate--you were kidding, weren't you? You were kidding. You know what a video game is, you were just seeing how people would react.

Yes, and Mr. Vanderloo doesn't seem at all upset that their are videos of him circulating around the internet showing him punching a female reporter.

That's because that was awesome. Who hasn't throught about punching those smug reporters???

Yeah, that was one of my crazy theories. I dunno who the guy is. It's possible the same way that it's possible that there's a Loch Ness or Bigfoot. Could be, but ehhhhh.

And as for the minority thing that I'm too lazy to quote, well, the homosexual community still seems willing to buy the game anyways, so why would they bother? But hey, I'm just spit balling. Next time there's a fans ask bioware thing ya'll should probably ask them. y'know, instead of trying to get them to admit to Tali being nailable. Maybe they just don't want to make their characters bi. For some reason I'm under the impression that someones sexuality has more of an impact on their personality than you believe. What's done is done though.

[jlb524]

jakl201 wrote...

That's because that was awesome. Who hasn't throught about punching those smug reporters???

Violence against women:  Awesome!

Gay sex:  Eeewww!!!

jakl201 wrote...

And as for the minority thing that I'm too lazy to quote, well, the homosexual community still seems willing to buy the game anyways, so why would they bother? But hey, I'm just spit balling. Next time there's a fans ask bioware thing ya'll should probably ask them. y'know, instead of trying to get them to admit to Tali being nailable.

It's been asked for before trust me...

[DarthCaine]

The polish voice actor for Shepard said he recorded lines for a gay romance
IMO Samara is a female exclusive romance

IMO:
Males:
1. Miranda
2. Subject Zero
3. Thane/Jacob

Females:
1. Thane
2. Jacob
3. Samara

I still think Joker is more likely to be romancable rather than Tali (Casey said CHARACTERS from ME1, not squad mates)

[Permutation]

jlb524 wrote...

jakl201 wrote...

That's because that was awesome. Who hasn't throught about punching those smug reporters???

Violence against women:  Awesome!

Gay sex:  Eeewww!!!

jakl201 wrote...

And as for the minority thing that I'm too lazy to quote, well, the homosexual community still seems willing to buy the game anyways, so why would they bother? But hey, I'm just spit balling. Next time there's a fans ask bioware thing ya'll should probably ask them. y'know, instead of trying to get them to admit to Tali being nailable.

It's been asked for before trust me...

Not that I'm taking sides here but, there are also vids of FemShep punching the same reporter.

[Collider]

Why should the reporter's sex even factor in?

[jakl201]

jlb524 wrote...

jakl201 wrote...

That's because that was awesome. Who hasn't throught about punching those smug reporters???

Violence against women:  Awesome!

Gay sex:  Eeewww!!!

jakl201 wrote...

And as for the minority thing that I'm too lazy to quote, well, the homosexual community still seems willing to buy the game anyways, so why would they bother? But hey, I'm just spit balling. Next time there's a fans ask bioware thing ya'll should probably ask them. y'know, instead of trying to get them to admit to Tali being nailable.

It's been asked for before trust me...

O.o I'm not going "Gay sex! Ewww!" Sexual orientation has nothing to do with how I treat an individual. Such arguments are stupid and baseless. Calling someone a bigot just because they disagree with your view of the world is awfully close minded don't you know.

I'm not arguing about having a gay/bi character, I'm arguing about tacking it on like it's meaningless. One of the coolest characters in DA:O is Zevran, who was awesome (too bad i was a rogue otherwise I'd have used him more). If they added a character that they meant to make gay/bi, that's cool. Adding it on just to appease a minority is...well, if it was me I'd be kinda insulted. Like getting hurt at work and your company tried to settle the lawsuit by offering you a bag of chips.

[jlb524]

Permutation wrote...

Not that I'm taking sides here but, there are also vids of FemShep punching the same reporter.

It's just as bad when FemShep does it. 

The point was made to argue against someone who stated that Vanderloo wouldn't want his good name sullied by Shepard's doing gay stuff with his face on.  I think Shepard can do far worse than that with Vanderloo's face.

I could have also used examples of the many vids of Shepard punching Manuel, shooting unarmed individuals, or tortuing batarians to prove that point as well.

[jlb524]

jakl201 wrote...


O.o I'm not going "Gay sex! Ewww!" Sexual orientation has nothing to do with how I treat an individual.

I don't care how you feel about it.  You assumed Vanderloo could have a problem with it.  Why?

jakl201 wrote...

I'm not arguing about having a gay/bi character, I'm arguing about tacking it on like it's meaningless. One of the coolest characters in DA:O is Zevran, who was awesome (too bad i was a rogue otherwise I'd have used him more). If they added a character that they meant to make gay/bi, that's cool. Adding it on just to appease a minority is...well, if it was me I'd be kinda insulted. Like getting hurt at work and your company tried to settle the lawsuit by offering you a bag of chips.

I think them tacking on a lot of things is meaningless.  But why aren't any of the straight romances ever considered 'tacked on'?  It's only ever a gay or bi one that would even be considered as such. 

It just seems that if they are included, people become ultra critical of them.  They have to 'perfectly make sense' or they are 'tacked on'.   A straight romance can make sense or not, no one will question it.

And don't bring up the majority vs. minority thing b/c that is irrelevant to this point.

[Borschtbeet]

I'm sure Mr.Vanderloo doesn't care. He's an actor and as far as he sees it he is portraying a character who doesn't represent who he is personally.

Plenty of straight actors have played gay men before.

[jakl201]

jlb524 wrote...

jakl201 wrote...


O.o I'm not going "Gay sex! Ewww!" Sexual orientation has nothing to do with how I treat an individual.

I don't care how you feel about it.  You assumed Vanderloo could have a problem with it.  Why?

jakl201 wrote...

I'm not arguing about having a gay/bi character, I'm arguing about tacking it on like it's meaningless. One of the coolest characters in DA:O is Zevran, who was awesome (too bad i was a rogue otherwise I'd have used him more). If they added a character that they meant to make gay/bi, that's cool. Adding it on just to appease a minority is...well, if it was me I'd be kinda insulted. Like getting hurt at work and your company tried to settle the lawsuit by offering you a bag of chips.

I think them tacking on a lot of things is meaningless.  But why aren't any of the straight romances ever considered 'tacked on'?  It's only ever a gay or bi one that would even be considered as such. 

It just seems that if they are included, people become ultra critical of them.  They have to 'perfectly make sense' or they are 'tacked on'.   A straight romance can make sense or not, no one will question it.

And don't bring up the majority vs. minority thing b/c that is irrelevant to this point.

Yes, the fact that a small percentage of people care about gay/bi romances is irrelevant. And I didn't assume anything, it was a weird crazy idea built on top of sand. And of course that's the one thing everyone took so seriously. O.o

And the whole 'why isn't straight romance tacked on' thing...really? You honestly have to ask that question? Ugh, seems you can't ever have a reasonable conversation about this topic. I'm done.

[screwoffreg]

I am pretty sure if there are no f/f romances there are sure as hell no m/m ones. I think a few posters have pretty much pointed out who is likely to be one, with one wildcard that could be someone surprising, like Tali, though I wouldn't get your hopes up. Frankly, some of the "friendships", like in Baldurs Gate II, were just as satisfying as the romances unless you absolutely INSIST on sleeping with everyone you encounter.

If you want to have sex with every character you encounter, just wait until the Witcher 2 comes out!!!

Modifié par screwoffreg, 18 janvier 2010 - 02:39 .

[DeathCultArm]

screwoffreg wrote...

I am pretty sure if there are no f/f romances there are sure as hell no m/m ones. I think a few posters have pretty much pointed out who is likely to be one, with one wildcard that could be someone surprising, like Tali, though I wouldn't get your hopes up. Frankly, some of the "friendships", like in Baldurs Gate II, were just as satisfying as the romances unless you absolutely INSIST on sleeping with everyone you encounter.

If you want to have sex with every character you encounter, just wait until the Witcher 2 comes out!!!

Correct. If they didn't add "the lesser or the two evils" than expecting a M/M romance is like expecing a Saren/Nihiuls showdown at the end of the game. It just seems ME is BW's more commerical franchise and they don't want to rattle anymore cages. I mean Foxnews ripped them a new one in ME1 about bare *** and a some siderack, could you imagine the ****storm of a cluster**** they would recieve if there was even a possile chance of a *** male romance...?

[baardhimself]

it seems same sex romance is as immoral in 2185 as it is in 2010!

[screwoffreg]

The funny thing about the supposed Fox News Effect is that I have seen no proof that it negatively effected game sales. If it didn't, then who cares?

The whole criticism about killing civilians in the new Call of Duty probably sold MORE games than anything.  Maybe that is more a problem about Americans being skittish about sex and having no problem with virtually murdering human beings, which is sad

Modifié par screwoffreg, 18 janvier 2010 - 02:48 .

[DeathCultArm]

Apparently, BW...considering they're clothed during the romances now...

[DeathCultArm]

Well, you can't change the world..

[screwoffreg]

DeathCultArm wrote...

Apparently, BW...considering they're clothed during the romances now...

lol, I hope you are joking.  I guess my joke about converting to fundamentalist Christianity in ME 3 and supporting abstinence may not be far off if that is true.

[DeathCultArm]

Look up the ESRB description of the sex scenes...

[screwoffreg]

DeathCultArm wrote...

Look up the ESRB description of the sex scenes...

Well. technically the ME 1 sex scenes were clothed.  You only ever saw bare necks and a back.  The "action" involved slim fitting space outfits.

[Permutation]

jlb524 wrote...

Permutation wrote...

Not that I'm taking sides here but, there are also vids of FemShep punching the same reporter.

It's just as bad when FemShep does it. 

The point was made to argue against someone who stated that Vanderloo wouldn't want his good name sullied by Shepard's doing gay stuff with his face on.  I think Shepard can do far worse than that with Vanderloo's face.

I could have also used examples of the many vids of Shepard punching Manuel, shooting unarmed individuals, or tortuing batarians to prove that point as well.

Yet, here you are discussing a game you obviously like, despite the violence against women, unarmed civilians and Batarians, etc.. And your plan is to prove a point?

Modifié par Permutation, 18 janvier 2010 - 02:59 .

[DeathCultArm]

screwoffreg wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

Look up the ESRB description of the sex scenes...

Well. technically the ME 1 sex scenes were clothed.  You only ever saw bare necks and a back.  The "action" involved slim fitting space outfits.

But I belive it now got to skivies to black screen...not more bare anything.

[Nightsong]

I think it would be nice to have M/M romance, and it would not be the first time Bioware has done it:wizard:

[jlb524]

Permutation wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Permutation wrote...

Not that I'm taking sides here but, there are also vids of FemShep punching the same reporter.

It's just as bad when FemShep does it. 

The point was made to argue against someone who stated that Vanderloo wouldn't want his good name sullied by Shepard's doing gay stuff with his face on.  I think Shepard can do far worse than that with Vanderloo's face.

I could have also used examples of the many vids of Shepard punching Manuel, shooting unarmed individuals, or tortuing batarians to prove that point as well.

Yet, here you are discussing a game you obviously like, despite the violence against women, unarmed civilians and Batarians, etc.. And your plan is to prove a point?

I believe I did make my point as was my plan. 

And I play as a Paragon character, so I don't see this optional content in the game.  I saw all that from the youtube 'Shepard is a jerk' video.

That's what's so nice about optional content.  You don't have to play it if it dissatisfies you in some way.