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#201
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Again, Thane was confirmed as a FemShep romance by Casey Hudson in the Best Buy chat a few nights ago. He *is* an alien. Thus, that does confirm him as an alien romance option.

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I saport the same sex romance story arch.

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Tali as a LI would be a debacle. Aside from the fact that she's about as attractive as purchasing the Clippers franchise, if you romance her and show her face, all her fanboy mystique is gone. Hopefully, it does kill her though.

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Borschtbeet wrote...

The human alien "sexytime" no doubt refers to Samara. There will not be a romance option with any other alien besides an Asari.


Confirmation of two romance options for femShep (BestBuy live chat).

source : http://forums.bestbu...cript/m-p/89184

Just to clear things up :)

I hope the third spot went to some male option, but I would bet on Samara.

Modifié par Pannamaslo, 17 janvier 2010 - 03:42 .


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Damn... and here I was wanting my FemShep to have a little fun with Miranda. :(

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No F/F romance is indeed a mood killer. I never expected femshep/miranda...but suze at least.

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Willowhugger wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

Finally I think an Asari is interesting..and it doesn't appear they are romanceable. First Shiala, now Samara.


Wasn't Shiala romancable?  At least in the context of having a emotional/sexual encounter before she went back to her job?

I have a theory why Samara might not be romancable.  Two actually.

1. They didn't want the Asari to JUST be fan service and wanted a serious non-sexual character to spout their supposed wisdom.

2. [less likely by far] She's actually Liara's father.


How about she's a Justicar? And the Liara father thing seems rediculous. Just because they reference this as the "Empire's strikes back" doesn't mean there's gonna be "I AM YOUR FATHER" moment. Or "I'M HER FATHER".

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DarthReavus wrote...

Sorry, I think the Talimancers won and it is Tali.


Indeed. Bioware caved in to the spamming furries.

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finc.loki wrote...

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Am I the only one that has seen that there are still 4 more squad mates that haven't been revealed yet?
Sure Garrus is likely one of them, but what about the rest?

Another thing, what's to say one of the romance options isn't the "old" one from ME1?

Seems to me people that are either gay or bi can't play a game today unless they get to have their homosexual romances. It is getting really tiresome reading it over and over again.
Your less than 10-20% of the population, get used to it.

*sigh*
List of confirmed squad members:
Grunt, Thane, Miranda, SuZe, Samara, Mordin, Jacob, Garrus & Tali. That's 9. The roster screen  has had 10 slots. Slot 10 is argued to be Legion.

The old romances from ME1 are confirmed to have a minor role in ME2.

Seems to me that the 10-20% of the people who hate options are pretty tiresome.


I don't hate options. Since I am part of the 80% that are not into gay game relationships I don't really see it as an option to begin with.
Perhaps next they should include , S&M, water sports and caprophage as "options" as well during the "sex" scene's?
I'm sure that these people make up some kind of percentage of the population as well.

I just find it silly that's all. This is turning into some kind of affirmative action crap.
People that are gay/bi are just that, it doesn't mean every single thing in this universe have to take that into account.
As I said 10-20% doesn't make it so.

What's next? No game or movie can ever be made unless at least 20% of all the villans and good guys are gay and show it to the audience so there is no mistake.

There was no black squad member in the last game, which almost makes it look like Jacob is the "token" black guy in this one.
I do find it silly when the forum is flooded with these gay request's like Bioware are somehow biggot and evil for not including gay relationships.


I'd like to think Mass Effect trilogy is a little more than romances.

I applogize for not making a politically correct post ( no I'm not).

Let me know next time the world was built in mind for dwarf/little people......<_<



Well said

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It's amazing how many people want to limit choices in a game series built on them. What next, we can no longer pick the gender of our Shepard?



I do want to see same-sex romances in the game. It allows for greater role playing opportunities. At this point, it doesn't seem likely that we'll get those in the shipped games. Something I've mentioned before is a possible DLC that would give us same-sex romances. That would please everyone, from those who want it to those who don't.

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While I may be biased on this issue as a gay man. I would at least like a minor subplot for M/M. Am I the only one who thought Conrad's "wife" was merely him afraid to admit he had a huge crush/obsession with Shepard? :P



And on the "it's a minority thing" if you think about it I'm sure there's a LOT more people who would play out the same sex romances than just homosexuals. I'm sure many of the heterosexual men who play as females(and there's a whole lot of em) would prefer a f/f, same goes for heterosexual women who play as males, they however are usually more open minded. But if you read any fanfic/yaoi stuff you'll know... women like their m/m just as much as men like f/f.



I also don't exactly consider Miranda confirmed yet either, SuZe neither to a degree.(unless she has been actually verbally confirmed other than the videos) Both of those women seem like the type who would easily have sex with Shepard in a "no strings attached" situation.



Just my two cents :P

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Akrim_Drak wrote...


I also don't exactly consider Miranda confirmed yet either, SuZe neither to a degree.(unless she has been actually verbally confirmed other than the videos) Both of those women seem like the type who would easily have sex with Shepard in a "no strings attached" situation.

Just my two cents :P


At this point, Thane, Jacob (for females), and Subject Zero (for males) are confirmed. Miranda is all but confirmed, and Tali and Garrus have been heavily hinted. As for the no-strings attached sex thing, it is possible that some of the love interests could be just that or more depending on how you play it out.

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Darth_Trethon wrote...

There will be none.....BioWare is finally learning to handle romances propperly.

There are 3 straight romances per gender and that's it. Bioware also said there will be no same-gender romance....thumbs up to BioWare. ^_^ ^_^^_^


Why is that thumbs up? I would say that is a step in the opposite direction

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XyleJKH wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

There will be none.....BioWare is finally learning to handle romances propperly.

There are 3 straight romances per gender and that's it. Bioware also said there will be no same-gender romance....thumbs up to BioWare. ^_^ ^_^^_^


Why is that thumbs up? I would say that is a step in the opposite direction


I think that having Bi characters kinda breaks the system. "Oh look, a romance that I can conveniently woo from either gender! Whee!" Bleh.

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jakl201 wrote...

XyleJKH wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

There will be none.....BioWare is finally learning to handle romances propperly.

There are 3 straight romances per gender and that's it. Bioware also said there will be no same-gender romance....thumbs up to BioWare. ^_^ ^_^^_^


Why is that thumbs up? I would say that is a step in the opposite direction


I think that having Bi characters kinda breaks the system. "Oh look, a romance that I can conveniently woo from either gender! Whee!" Bleh.


Maybe the player wants to play just a GAY character... ever consider that. FYI I am not gay, I just support gay rights.

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Mox Ruuga wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

Sorry, I think the Talimancers won and it is Tali.


Indeed. Bioware caved in to the spamming furries.


How do you figure they caved? Nothing wrong with what they did.

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jakl201 wrote...


I think that having Bi characters kinda breaks the system. "Oh look, a romance that I can conveniently woo from either gender! Whee!" Bleh.


At this point I'm convinced that you're a troll, but I'll bite this time. Mass Effect is a game where the main draw is choice. Not combat, not exploration, not even story, but choice. More choices means a better game. That's all there is to it in a nutshell. Feel free to disagree and go play an action game.

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DeathCultArm wrote...

I thought Ash was hispanic.

Ashley Williams sounds like a hispanic name to you?

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DaeJi wrote...

jakl201 wrote...


I think that having Bi characters kinda breaks the system. "Oh look, a romance that I can conveniently woo from either gender! Whee!" Bleh.


At this point I'm convinced that you're a troll, but I'll bite this time. Mass Effect is a game where the main draw is choice. Not combat, not exploration, not even story, but choice. More choices means a better game. That's all there is to it in a nutshell. Feel free to disagree and go play an action game.


It's just...I dunno, odd. I'm trying to explain, but eh. Yes the game is about choice, but in Mass Effect the main protaganist isn't a blank slate for you to mold into whatever you want. They've stated that the trilogy is about Shepard and his choices. It would be difficult/kinda game breaking if your Shep starts sleeping with everything that moves. Besides, the focus isn't on romance, it's on saving the galaxy! People get so angry about this. Not to mention they would have to put extra time and effort into something that only a small percentage would enjoy. That's money out of their pockets. Unless the character is designed from the ground up centering around their sexuality (ala Zevran) no reason to implement it. Maybe I'm not explaining it too well though.

Modifié par jakl201, 17 janvier 2010 - 10:23 .


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Can't be bothered reading all the other posts so it's probably been posted before but maybe BW should make a DLC that adds new scripts to the characters for m/m and f/f romances (provided it's possible). With the # of downloads you'd actually be able to see how many people would be interested in it though I suppose there will be people complaining about having to pay for something that should have been in the game to begin with and won't get it for that reason.

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Another reason that I believe that there wouldn't be homosexual male shepard is the fact that the stock face is based off of the actor Vanderbeek (Sp?). If the actor didn't give the go ahead that he'd be featured in a homosexual situation, bioware's hands would be tied. Sure, not everyone would use the sculpted head, but what were they gonna do? Let custom heads be gay but not the default?

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AdamNW wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

I thought Ash was hispanic.

Ashley Williams sounds like a hispanic name to you?


You can be hispanic without have such a name you know. Also with all of earths ethnicities mixed up in the mass effect universe it's very likley any racial profiles we have today wouldn't be very accurate.

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AdamNW wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

I thought Ash was hispanic.

Ashley Williams sounds like a hispanic name to you?



I hope that's a joke.....

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Merci and Shallow, I've gotta say, you're both pretty damned cool. I agree about Jennifer Hale, her acting is awesome.

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I don't hate options. Since I am part of the 80% that are not into gay game relationships I don't really see it as an option to begin with.

Actually, considering the fact that a large percentage of us are roleplayers and/or not afraid of gay people, options are good with maybe 80% of us, which would put you in the 20% category. And I think I'm actually being generous with that.

I'm a straight female, and while it is a slightly less immersive an experience, I have in fact played both female and male ******/bisexuals in games (and straight males.) After my first playthrough, I choose as different a set of characteristics from my personal ones as possible--it adds to my enjoyment to see the game from a completely new perspective. Playing a Paragon every time adds nothing to a new playthrough. You're repeating history. Same with playing the same gender and sexuality and choosing the same features. You can do a lot more and it's much more interesting to have the ability to do something else, assuming like variety and are not for some silly reason frightened of "turning gay" from playing a character that you thought of as liking their own gender.

And even for those who are scared, they don't have to implement anything in a scary way. The gay characters don't by any means need to be pushy or even talk about it without Shepard broaching the subject.

Oh, and by the way, Freud thought that everyone was bi and suppressing it. So, before you start throwing him at people, you might want to think about who you're quoting and pick somebody else. Particularly since a good portion of his (sometimes hilarious) ideas have been discredited. Like the whole "everybody wants to screw their parents" bit and the idea that all women would rather have a boner on them than in them.

He had issues. Just saying.

Akrim_Drak wrote...

And on the "it's a minority
thing" if you think about it I'm sure there's a LOT more people who
would play out the same sex romances than just homosexuals. I'm sure
many of the heterosexual men who play as females(and there's a whole
lot of em) would prefer a f/f, same goes for heterosexual women who play as males,

Guilty as charged, buddy. Guilty as charged. ;)

jakl201 wrote...

t would be difficult/kinda game breaking
if your Shep starts sleeping with everything that moves. Besides, the
focus isn't on romance, it's on saving the galaxy! People get so angry
about this. Not to mention they would have to put extra time and effort
into something that only a small percentage would enjoy. That's money
out of their pockets. Unless the character is designed from the ground
up centering around their sexuality (ala Zevran) no reason to implement
it. Maybe I'm not explaining it too well though.

The explaining part you're doing fine. The thinking, maybe not as well.

The point is not that Shepard sleeps with everything that moves. The focus isn't on romance, no, but it's a part of their game plan. And it's really not hard for them to design a character from the ground up to be bisexual. Since we have three options for BOTH genders this time, that's SIX different romances already. It's not at all unreasonable to have two of those be bi--and it's not much more time, money, or what-have-you. It's just "he" instead of "she" or the reverse and "woman" instead of "man" a few times--that's practically a pittance. And as I mentioned above, the percentage really isn't so small. Being very fond of Bioware's games, I am probably going to play this game six times at least over the next year, as I'm a student and this summer I'll have a lot more leisure time. So those six romances are not at all more than I will see and experience--and frankly, the more options I have the more I will enjoy those playthroughs.

It's only a tiny bit of effort that just plain gives you more bang for your buck--or enables you to romance someone of your preferred gender even if you're playing a character of the opposite sex. That's not a bad thing at all.

jakl201 wrote...

Another reason that I believe that there
wouldn't be homosexual male shepard is the fact that the stock face is
based off of the actor Vanderbeek (Sp?). If the actor didn't give the
go ahead that he'd be featured in a homosexual situation, bioware's
hands would be tied. Sure, not everyone would use the sculpted head,
but what were they gonna do? Let custom heads be gay but not the
default?

*gawks* Do you not realize how wacky that sounds?! You think that he didn't sign a disclaimer and get money for the use of his appearance? You imagine they're gonna to call him into the studio and say, "Hey, Mr. Vanderloo, would you mind very terribly much if we made it possible for Shepard to be gay? Puh-LEEEEEEASE?" Nonsense. "If the actor didn't give the go ahead..." He's not an actor, he's a model. He's also not the Emperor of Bioware. He's a guy they paid to scan his face so that they could animate--you were kidding, weren't you? You were kidding. You know what a video game is, you were just seeing how people would react.

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Mox Ruuga wrote...

Keltoris wrote...

Highlight: He counts Asari as not -technically F/F.


The funny thing with that is he's not fooling anyone. Not the media reactionaries, not the casual fans, not the people who like the f/f romances. I wonder why they persist with this ludicrous fiction? Especially since a FemShep being attracted to an asari would clearly make her either bi or a lesbian.

Why are they being so disingenious with this?


Ludicrous fiction??  Why does everyone insist bioware is pulling a fast one?  Maybe they HONESTLY BELIEVE Liara is NOT a woman.