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Necrosis66613

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Well, I read somewhere that now you only have limited amount of fuel with which to use to navigate the Normandy around, and when you run out of fuel, you have to use minerals until your fuel is restored... But what happens when you run out of minerals?  

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Yeah been wondering that. Also wondering, how do you refuel. Probably been said but I never saw it.

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Necrosis66613

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well, I assume the only way you can refuel is with the minerals, unless they have refueling stations or something. hm....

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Send your squad in two shuttles going in opposite directions to call for help. Then, when you stumble across another ship in the Normandy's path and the crew offers you to trade some fuel and ends up trying to steal the Normandy, you shoot them all in the face.



Because that's how Shepard rolls.

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You don't go anywhere, you will forever be stuck in space floating endlessly. Do you really thing Bioware would make the system that broken? <_<

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If you run out of fuel you return to the Cerberus base I believe on your emergency fuel.

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Arrtis

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ug its SPORE ALL OVER AGAIN so annoying trying to get to the center of the universe in that game.

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You're not really using fuel, you're discharging the drive core. The whole drive core discharging has just been adapted to fuel to serve as a gameplay mechanic.



But yeah, if your "fuel" runs out, you use your minerals and what not to go back to the main camp.

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Ok so people got a good idea on what happens when you run out I guess, but how do you refuel??

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Darth Sithari

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ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

You're not really using fuel, you're discharging the drive core. The whole drive core discharging has just been adapted to fuel to serve as a gameplay mechanic.

But yeah, if your "fuel" runs out, you use your minerals and what not to go back to the main camp.


Sorry, but I believe you are incorrect. You are forgetting about thrusters. From the Codex:


A mass effect drive core decreases the mass of a bubble of space-time around a ship. This gives the ship the potential to move quickly, but does not apply any motive power. Ships use their sublight thrusters for motive power in FTL. There are several varieties of thruster, varying in performance versus economy. All ships are equipped with arrays of hydrogen-oxygen reaction control thrusters for maneuvering.
Ion drives electrically accelerate charged particles as a reaction mass. They are extremely efficient, but produce negligible thrust. They are mainly used for automated cargo barges.
The primary commercial engine is a "fusion torch", which vents the plasma of a ship's power plant. Fusion torches offer powerful acceleration at the cost of difficult heat management. Torch fuel is fairly cheap: helium-3 skimmed from gas giants and deuterium extracted from seawater or cometary bodies. Propellant is hydrogen, likewise skimmed from gas giants.
In combat, military vessels require accelerations beyond the capability of fusion torches. Warship thrusters inject antiprotons into a reaction chamber filled with hydrogen. The matter-antimatter annihilation provides unmatched motive power. The drawback is fuel production; antiprotons must be manufactured one particle at a time. Most antimatter production is done at massive solar arrays orbiting energetic stars, making them high-value targets in wartime.

The fuel will most likely be hydrogen.

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@Darth



You make a good point



And I love your sig....Mordin does approve

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Darth Sithari

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Ettecoud wrote...

And I love your sig....Mordin does approve


Thank you. To be fair, I didn't make it, found it in a screenshot thread in the old forums.

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Darth Sithari wrote...

ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

You're not really using fuel, you're discharging the drive core. The whole drive core discharging has just been adapted to fuel to serve as a gameplay mechanic.

But yeah, if your "fuel" runs out, you use your minerals and what not to go back to the main camp.


Sorry, but I believe you are incorrect. You are forgetting about thrusters. From the Codex:


A mass effect drive core decreases the mass of a bubble of space-time around a ship. This gives the ship the potential to move quickly, but does not apply any motive power. Ships use their sublight thrusters for motive power in FTL. There are several varieties of thruster, varying in performance versus economy. All ships are equipped with arrays of hydrogen-oxygen reaction control thrusters for maneuvering.
Ion drives electrically accelerate charged particles as a reaction mass. They are extremely efficient, but produce negligible thrust. They are mainly used for automated cargo barges.
The primary commercial engine is a "fusion torch", which vents the plasma of a ship's power plant. Fusion torches offer powerful acceleration at the cost of difficult heat management. Torch fuel is fairly cheap: helium-3 skimmed from gas giants and deuterium extracted from seawater or cometary bodies. Propellant is hydrogen, likewise skimmed from gas giants.
In combat, military vessels require accelerations beyond the capability of fusion torches. Warship thrusters inject antiprotons into a reaction chamber filled with hydrogen. The matter-antimatter annihilation provides unmatched motive power. The drawback is fuel production; antiprotons must be manufactured one particle at a time. Most antimatter production is done at massive solar arrays orbiting energetic stars, making them high-value targets in wartime.

The fuel will most likely be hydrogen.

The Normandy didn't rely on thrusters, though.  Then again, that's assuming that the new Normandy is built using the same system as the original.


But what I said has been gleaned from the old board, though.  Maybe it's wrong, maybe it isn't.  You do bring up a good counter-argument for it, though.

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Darth Sithari

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ItsFreakinJesus wrote...
The Normandy didn't rely on thrusters, though.  Then again, that's assuming that the new Normandy is built using the same system as the original.


But what I said has been gleaned from the old board, though.  Maybe it's wrong, maybe it isn't.  You do bring up a good counter-argument for it, though.


The Normandy can move without thrusters, but that was for when it was stealthed, to not give off its position. Remember, the Normandy had those same thrusters on it that all the other Alliance ships had.

http://images1.wikia...12-37-22-09.png
Why would they stick those on the ship if it didn't need them?

DAMN, how do you put an image in a post?

Modifié par Darth Sithari, 17 janvier 2010 - 07:07 .


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Aren't materials limited resources?
So if you mess up you have to scrap materials... if you mess up too much don't you suffer due to loss of upgrades?
The same upgrades that'll keep the party alive during the suicide mission?

Modifié par TheTWF, 17 janvier 2010 - 07:09 .


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maybe you loss credits and order up some more stuff.

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Wow, so no one has a guess as to how you refuel???

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CandraZ wrote...

Wow, so no one has a guess as to how you refuel???


Fraid not.

Modifié par Willowhugger, 17 janvier 2010 - 07:23 .


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you call double triple a to comeover and help you...

DISTRESS BEACON then pay who ever visits credits for fuel...?

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there will be refuleing station in some places you go

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There are refueling stations in all settled systems. You can see them in a few of the videos. The only time you'd use mineral resources is if you run out of fuel.

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and you mine nearby asteroids?maybe?

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Since I imagine refueling a starship would be expensive, I have a more pressing question.



Will TIM be footing the bill?

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probably but hes probably not gonna pay for personal things.

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CandraZ wrote...

Wow, so no one has a guess as to how you refuel???

There was a screenshot floating around from some magazine preview or something which showed a star system at the max level of zoom from the galaxy map. In addition to the planets orbiting the local star, there was a refueling station in the system as well as a mass relay.

Modifié par marshalleck, 17 janvier 2010 - 09:36 .