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[LiarasShield]

The reason why I ask this is because some of us may get new consoles or new hard drives later on and the dlc is not always going to be on the playstation store or xbox marketplace so what I'm asking is.


Will their ever be a release of mass effect 3 with all the the singleplayer or multiplayer dlcs on one or two discs please bioware the online stores won't last forever and it would be nice to have all the dlc on one or two discs like Bethesda has done with elder scrolls.

[OdanUrr]

Better they release an Ultimate Trilogy edition will all DLC.

[game-zerox]

^that, since there is no ME2 GOTY, better chances of getting that.

It's good to dream of it, but has EA ever released a GOTY edition of a game their studio made?

[SilJeff]

OdanUrr wrote...

Better they release an Ultimate Trilogy edition will all DLC.

this. And I would like to see it on the Wii U as well

Or wait a long time and release one with updated graphics, bug fixes, etc for the PS4 and XBone

[MegaSovereign]

OdanUrr wrote...

Better they release an Ultimate Trilogy edition will all DLC.

If they're ever going to release the Trilogy for next-gen consoles then it would be a crime not to have all the DLC included.

A GOTY edition is out of the question though, OP.

[DutchVictim]

MegaSovereign wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Better they release an Ultimate Trilogy edition will all DLC.

If they're ever going to release the Trilogy for next-gen consoles then it would be a crime not to have all the DLC included.

A GOTY edition is out of the question though, OP.

I don't know. With EA's business vision they would probably make money out if too. For their own sake ofcourse, not their fans... <_<

[LiarasShield]

Well a game of the year edition with all the dlc already on the disc would be highly appreciated though ^^

[Taki17]

The ME Trilogy Edition could've been the ultimate edition... Unfortunately, it was not.

[Linkenski]

I don't want to have Mass Effect 3 shoved in my face any longer by critics and gaming journalism sites stating "it's the best Mass Effect game to date". It's not, and i feel insulted whenever someone praises the game in that way, because it's the most dissapoining experience i've ever had in any gaming franchise.

[Redbelle]

Linkenski wrote...

I don't want to have Mass Effect 3 shoved in my face any longer by critics and gaming journalism sites stating "it's the best Mass Effect game to date". It's not, and i feel insulted whenever someone praises the game in that way, because it's the most dissapoining experience i've ever had in any gaming franchise.

A gaming press that is capable of understanding their audience would be nice....... Unfortunately, the factory where they are produced is overseen by a tyrant AI who wants to one day use his legion of reviewers and critics against us when we are outnumbered by 2 to 1.

Fortunately EA have a smart phone in development code named cruise cybal that contains an app so powerful, it will force a little humanity into these pawns of a higher power, and maybe more favourable review scores, at the cost of turning the rest of us into gaming journalists who just want to join the action and become paid critics of game develoment..... which is not possible since there aren't that many position's in the industry, so we'll just sit quietly and let the professionals get on with their jobs..........

(Reads what was just written).

Struth. What was in that tea?

[FlamingBoy]

Redbelle wrote...

Linkenski wrote...

I don't want to have Mass Effect 3 shoved in my face any longer by critics and gaming journalism sites stating "it's the best Mass Effect game to date". It's not, and i feel insulted whenever someone praises the game in that way, because it's the most dissapoining experience i've ever had in any gaming franchise.

A gaming press that is capable of understanding their audience would be nice....... Unfortunately, the factory where they are produced is overseen by a tyrant AI who wants to one day use his legion of reviewers and critics against us when we are outnumbered by 2 to 1.

Fortunately EA have a smart phone in development code named cruise cybal that contains an app so powerful, it will force a little humanity into these pawns of a higher power, and maybe more favourable review scores, at the cost of turning the rest of us into gaming journalists who just want to join the action and become paid critics of game develoment..... which is not possible since there aren't that many position's in the industry, so we'll just sit quietly and let the professionals get on with their jobs..........

(Reads what was just written).

Struth. What was in that tea?

What bothers me most about gaming press is not the dishonesty (because that can be fixed) its the close interconnections between them and the publisher (developer, advertisers, whatever) Its this background that breeds corruption.

Mass Effect 3 stank, you just had a bad feeling about the scores (and what they wrote) and the final product represented that.

Any way OP, EA is not particularly known for ultimate collections, however they did release a dragon age orgins one a while back on steam hence there might be some hope.

[JMTolan]

If they were going to release a GOTY collection, they'd be hard pressed to not do a trilogy collection--they could market one, and not the other, and the latter would probably bring in more sales.

Unfortunately, doing the trilogy has it's own problems, because either it highlights the inconsistency between 1 and 2, which isn't something they're excited to do, or it requires them to port 1 to the new engine and update it heavily, which alone approaches the cost of making a new game. Realistically, there's just no way to make a trilogy collection financially viable.

Magic 8-Ball says: Outlook not good.

-Tolan

[AlanC9]

JMTolan wrote...
Unfortunately, doing the trilogy has it's own problems, because either it highlights the inconsistency between 1 and 2, which isn't something they're excited to do, or it requires them to port 1 to the new engine and update it heavily, which alone approaches the cost of making a new game. Realistically, there's just no way to make a trilogy collection financially viable.

I don't see why they can't leave ME1 just as it is. It wasn't that bad.

[Redbelle]

FlamingBoy wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

Linkenski wrote...

I don't want to have Mass Effect 3 shoved in my face any longer by critics and gaming journalism sites stating "it's the best Mass Effect game to date". It's not, and i feel insulted whenever someone praises the game in that way, because it's the most dissapoining experience i've ever had in any gaming franchise.

A gaming press that is capable of understanding their audience would be nice....... Unfortunately, the factory where they are produced is overseen by a tyrant AI who wants to one day use his legion of reviewers and critics against us when we are outnumbered by 2 to 1.

Fortunately EA have a smart phone in development code named cruise cybal that contains an app so powerful, it will force a little humanity into these pawns of a higher power, and maybe more favourable review scores, at the cost of turning the rest of us into gaming journalists who just want to join the action and become paid critics of game develoment..... which is not possible since there aren't that many position's in the industry, so we'll just sit quietly and let the professionals get on with their jobs..........

(Reads what was just written).

Struth. What was in that tea?

What bothers me most about gaming press is not the dishonesty (because that can be fixed) its the close interconnections between them and the publisher (developer, advertisers, whatever) Its this background that breeds corruption.

Mass Effect 3 stank, you just had a bad feeling about the scores (and what they wrote) and the final product represented that.

Any way OP, EA is not particularly known for ultimate collections, however they did release a dragon age orgins one a while back on steam hence there might be some hope.

DA:O

Best core game and DLC collection pack ever released that arrived on a shiny disk containing pure unadulterated DA awesome that burst at the seams of a Infinite bag of holding

More Bioware!

MOAR!!!

p.s. Sooooo sad DA2 didn't follow suit. Another reason why I didn't pick up a copy on release.

[Redbelle]

AlanC9 wrote...

JMTolan wrote...
Unfortunately, doing the trilogy has it's own problems, because either it highlights the inconsistency between 1 and 2, which isn't something they're excited to do, or it requires them to port 1 to the new engine and update it heavily, which alone approaches the cost of making a new game. Realistically, there's just no way to make a trilogy collection financially viable.

I don't see why they can't leave ME1 just as it is. It wasn't that bad.

Not so much. It's like playing Metal Gear in its 8bit days on PS3 after it was bundled with MGS3. Or playing the oringinal MGS and then MGS2.

The consistentcy might not be there. But the history of how the game evolved is. And as gamers who play games, thats just something we have to accept. Games grow and change as time goes on.

After all. We can't take away the chance for others not to drive the Mako or hammerhead. The citadel DLC fire teams would then be named after carnivourous fish!

[Guanxii]

Bethesda are an anomaly and I have no idea why they effectively discount their downloadable content in this way with their GOTY editions - opening it up to the second hand market that will invariably dwindle down the remaining value in the game to next to nothing. Skyrim legendary edition will be $20 by next year... that's madness... early adopters get completely screwed over and you're practically giving away the dlc to anybody beyond your core fanbase who bought the game for practically peanuts anyway. Sure TES and Fallout games sell gangbusters but their dlc practices are insane from a business perspective.

Regardless of how cheap the retail box copies are now or if you buy it second hand Mass Effect 3 is $60 worth of content for the complete experience and that's how it should be. Why should johnny come lately freeloaders get the game and everything else for next to nothing?

Modifié par Guanxii, 06 juin 2013 - 09:46 .

[JMTolan]

Oh, I didn't mean to imply ME1 was bad. I quite liked it, and would argue it has aged well. But it would feel very out of place if you were new to ME and bought the trilogy collection. Which is, after all, what it would be aimed at--new players. Devoted fans already have all three games (for the most part, yes PS3 is a thing), and if a new player starts ME1 from the trilogy based on what they know of 2 or 3, they're probably going to assume they've been mislead and/or lied to. It's just a very different look and feel--something a new player buying the trilogy probably wouldn't expect or like. I'm not saying it'd be bad, I'm saying it probably wouldn't sell well.

And RE: Above, because they came late. Never underestimate how much of a game's price is a function of how new it is. As games get older, they lose hype, and sales drop. The best way to combat this is DLC, price drops, and complete bundles--and if the complete bundle isn't cheaper, why buy it? If they don't drop the price on something, the game will just stop selling, and they can make a lot more money off sales at reduced price points than they can on no sales at all.

-Tolan

[Redbelle]

Guanxii wrote...

Bethesda are an anomaly and I have no idea why they effectively discount their downloadable content in this way with their GOTY editions - opening it up to the second hand market that will invariably dwindle down the remaining value in the game to next to nothing. Skyrim legendary edition will be $20 by next year... that's madness... early adopters get completely screwed over and you're practically giving away the dlc to anybody beyond your core fanbase who bought the game for practically peanuts anyway. Sure TES and Fallout games sell gangbusters but their dlc practices are insane from a business perspective.

Regardless of how cheap the retail box copies are now or if you buy it second hand Mass Effect 3 is $60 worth of content for the complete experience and that's how it should be. Why should johnny come lately freeloaders get the game and everything else for next to nothing?

Because, high demand = high prices, whereas low demand = low prices.

That's a look at the situation from the manufacturer. Fans would prefer the opposite to be true. However, economic theory wins out I'm afraid.

After all. What's the point of having a product if, after the period of maximum distribuition through sales, those sales dry up because the RRP at release date is to high for some? Those discs cost money and getting something for them is better than getting nothing for them.

Downloadable transaction's may be different. But the principal of getting maximum bang for your product on release day, and then slowly lowering the price as time goes on to eke out more sales is simply a maximising profit exercise.

That's why those who are forced to wait, or choose to wait get cheaper asking prices for the product. They play the economic game and get the benefit of a cheaper than release day game, at the cost of having to wait longer to play it.
 

Modifié par Redbelle, 06 juin 2013 - 11:54 .

[Tonymac]

I hope there are no more editions of ME3 at all ever. Some things simply need to die in peace. Or pieces....

[Sanunes]

Redbelle wrote...
Because, high demand = high prices, whereas low demand = low prices.

That's a look at the situation from the manufacturer. Fans would prefer the opposite to be true. However, economic theory wins out I'm afraid.

After all. What's the point of having a product if, after the period of maximum distribuition through sales, those sales dry up because the RRP at release date is to high for some? Those discs cost money and getting something for them is better than getting nothing for them.

Downloadable transaction's may be different. But the principal of getting maximum bang for your product on release day, and then slowly lowering the price as time goes on to eke out more sales is simply a maximising profit exercise.

That's why those who are forced to wait, or choose to wait get cheaper asking prices for the product. They play the economic game and get the benefit of a cheaper than release day game, at the cost of having to wait longer to play it.
 

That is true, but I believe the reason why EA doesn't really make Ultimate or Game of the Year editions is because they have done the math and its not worth the cost of setting up, for I always find those special edition prices drop like a stone because the majority of the people interested in the game would have purchased it by now.

I wonder if there would be technical issues with the amount of DLC too, for I can see issues with any of the distrubution models.

[AlanC9]

Even if GOTY discs don't work, they're still leaving money on the table by not discounting DLC. Once you've sold the DLC to everyone who's buy it at list, there are still people left who would buy it at half that price.

The problem is that you don't want to train your customers to wait for the sale. But I really don't understand why they don't drop the ME2 DLCs. Surely nobody who'd wait this long would ever buy them at full price.

[Allison_Lightning]

I bought Skyrim and all its DLC for PC, so I don't feel any shame on buying the Legendary Edition for 360 at sixty-eight dollars mind you. Some of us happen to pay for being an Australian gamer or other countries that have higher game prices.

I don't begrudge people who pay lower prices on things than I do- I get mad at people who think that everyone should pay a sky high price constantly. I've bought the entire series across both platforms. The only reason I'm not buying the third game's DLC for PC is because I've started to see operating system age on the second game and it's not worth buying it separately and the download charges. EA/Bioware don't pay my IP, I do. Also Origin really needs a way to buy pre-paid credit in stores, Steam Wallet codes are finally coming to EA games (Aus) so why can't we have something for the gamers who really don't like using credit cards?

I'd happily pay a hundred dollars for a brand new PC ultimate edition of Mass Effect 3. With Origin, there's no second hand market able to re-sell the games and I don't see if the whole re-sell thing was such an issue why they don't have the DLC discs for 360 only install the content if you sign onto EA games and enter a matching code to your disc number on XBOX Live. There's no excuse with current technology to hide behind the second-hand market as a reason not to release complete game editions.

On IP limits, damn that I have 14 GB a month and I can't buy Omega for 360 until my next month cycle. I had to make do with From Ashes and Citadel. (I just realized when off XBOX live that I've never signed onto my EA account while in ME3 and that's why my new ME3 DLC for 360 doesn't show up on my content list)

[LiarasShield]

I'm just saying that a version on disc with all the dlcs would be good because the dlcs will not be on the online market forever and will be replaced by newer games