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[CrimsonN7]

The Sin wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Hitokirinome wrote...

Okay guys. Let me ask you a question? Did having a woman on the cover of the box stop you from buying Starcraft II: Heart of the Swarm? How about Tomb Raider? Blood Rayne 1 & 2? Bayonetta? Final Fantasy X-2? Final Fantasy XIII? Final Fantasy XIII-2? No it didn't. And if there were a F!Inquisitor on the cover of D3, you wouldn't care either.

Then why does it matter?

PRECISELY. IT DOESN'T

Many women today, many feminist women today like to find issues from nonexistent places such as this one.

Extremists on both sides are dumb, just saying.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

spirosz wrote...

The Sin wrote...

The solution is simple. DO NOT HAVE MALE / FEMALE PC ON THE COVER. 

The solution is simple.  Do research on a game before purchasing. 

Yeah. This works too...Pity many here seem to think people just make impulse purchases or make purchases based on box art. 

One does not simply make impulse luxury purchases. One does not simply make purchases based on box art. 

[spirosz]

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

Some people care about what's on the cover. Helps them with their headcanon, I guess.

I couldn't care less what's on the cover, really. It's a bit like judging a Christmas Present by the wrapping.

Helps with headcannon?   I don't understand how that would add or take away from the individual's headcannon. Sheploo can be advertised as the the "Shepard", but that isn't my Shepard, you know?

[Angrywolves]

Yup.Ninja Stan owes me a steak dinner.rotfl. Maybe griffon on the cover. Tallis aka Felicia Day can wait.rotfl.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

I still stand by my Sandal on the cover idea.

[AresKeith]

I doubt the Box is gonna have the protagonist on it anyway

If it did, they could just make two versions

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

The Sin wrote...

One does not simply make impulse luxury purchases. One does not simply make purchases based on box art. 

You're kidding, right?

[sandalisthemaker]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Hitokirinome wrote...

Okay guys. Let me ask you a question? Did having a woman on the cover of the box stop you from buying Starcraft II: Heart of the Swarm? How about Tomb Raider? Blood Rayne 1 & 2? Bayonetta? Final Fantasy X-2? Final Fantasy XIII? Final Fantasy XIII-2? No it didn't. And if there were a F!Inquisitor on the cover of D3, you wouldn't care either.

Then why does it matter?

It's principle of the thing. The point of the thread is about having more female representation in general. It matters to some people. 

[TheBlackBaron]

SergeantSnookie wrote...

I still stand by my Sandal on the cover idea.

An Enchantment Edition is the one thing that could get me to pre-order the game. 

[Bayonet Hipshot]

CrimsonN7 wrote...

The Sin wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Hitokirinome wrote...

Okay guys. Let me ask you a question? Did having a woman on the cover of the box stop you from buying Starcraft II: Heart of the Swarm? How about Tomb Raider? Blood Rayne 1 & 2? Bayonetta? Final Fantasy X-2? Final Fantasy XIII? Final Fantasy XIII-2? No it didn't. And if there were a F!Inquisitor on the cover of D3, you wouldn't care either.

Then why does it matter?

PRECISELY. IT DOESN'T

Many women today, many feminist women today like to find issues from nonexistent places such as this one.

Extremists on both sides are dumb, just saying.

Yes they are. As a man it is stupid when I see women in kitchen and women making sandwiches jokes. It is pathetic. I actually never knew that women are supposed to cook better than men because my dad cooks all the food in the house almost all the time & mom is the type that makes a fuss if one ingredient is missing instead of working her way around it. Even my sister..well, she cooked  and it caused the family to get food poisioning. 

I only know about this sandwich trope when I got out into the real world. Specifically speaking 2-3 years ago. 

[spirosz]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Hitokirinome wrote...

Okay guys. Let me ask you a question? Did having a woman on the cover of the box stop you from buying Starcraft II: Heart of the Swarm? How about Tomb Raider? Blood Rayne 1 & 2? Bayonetta? Final Fantasy X-2? Final Fantasy XIII? Final Fantasy XIII-2? No it didn't. And if there were a F!Inquisitor on the cover of D3, you wouldn't care either.

Then why does it matter?

It's principle of the thing. The point of the thread is about having more female representation in general. It matters to some people. 

Does the game itself not have relevence to this issue?  Bioware could just not have a female protagonist, but they choose to because they know, females/males, whomever, would love to RP different types of characters and genders.  

[CrimsonN7]

The Sin wrote...

CrimsonN7 wrote...

The Sin wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Hitokirinome wrote...

Okay guys. Let me ask you a question? Did having a woman on the cover of the box stop you from buying Starcraft II: Heart of the Swarm? How about Tomb Raider? Blood Rayne 1 & 2? Bayonetta? Final Fantasy X-2? Final Fantasy XIII? Final Fantasy XIII-2? No it didn't. And if there were a F!Inquisitor on the cover of D3, you wouldn't care either.

Then why does it matter?

PRECISELY. IT DOESN'T

Many women today, many feminist women today like to find issues from nonexistent places such as this one.

Extremists on both sides are dumb, just saying.

Yes they are. As a man it is stupid when I see women in kitchen and women making sandwiches jokes. It is pathetic. I actually never knew that women are supposed to cook better than men because my dad cooks all the food in the house almost all the time & mom is the type that makes a fuss if one ingredient is missing instead of working her way around it. Even my sister..well, she cooked  and it caused the family to get food poisioning. 

I only know about this sandwich trope when I got out into the real world. Specifically speaking 2-3 years ago. 

Erm ok *backs outta the thread slowly*

[Seboist]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Hitokirinome wrote...

Okay guys. Let me ask you a question? Did having a woman on the cover of the box stop you from buying Starcraft II: Heart of the Swarm? How about Tomb Raider? Blood Rayne 1 & 2? Bayonetta? Final Fantasy X-2? Final Fantasy XIII? Final Fantasy XIII-2? No it didn't. And if there were a F!Inquisitor on the cover of D3, you wouldn't care either.

Then why does it matter?

It's principle of the thing. The point of the thread is about having more female representation in general. It matters to some people. 

"Some people" being the entitled and self-righteous e-social crusaders.

[spirosz]

Also, are the people complaining about the cover going into DA III as their first game of the series or are they coming from Origins? If Origins...

[sandalisthemaker]

spirosz wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

It's principle of the thing. The point of the thread is about having more female representation in general. It matters to some people. 

Does the game itself not have relevence to this issue?  Bioware could just not have a female protagonist, but they choose to because they know, females/males, whomever, would love to RP different types of characters and genders.  

Yes, Bioware is excellent in this regard.
But the cover is the game's face. It's what everyone sees. If they are going to have the protag on the cover, why not show a woman this time around. They can have the male version on the back. People can flip the cover if they want their box to have a male on the cover.

[K_Tabris]

Seboist wrote...



"Some people" being the entitled and self-righteous e-social crusaders.

Are you really that ignorant?

[slimgrin]

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

The Sin wrote...

One does not simply make impulse luxury purchases. One does not simply make purchases based on box art. 

You're kidding, right?

I don't. It's 60 bloody dollars. I always research a game I buy.

Modifié par slimgrin, 04 juin 2013 - 03:17 .

[JamieCOTC]

A woman on the cover of a game like DA:I is never going to happen unless its a double flip side cover, but yes, I am getting sick and tired of generic Hero Dude 101. Bioshcok Infinite probably should have had Elizabeth on the cover somewhere next to whatshisface. I understand playing it safe to broaden the audience, but I believe they just choked. But kudos to The Last of Us Dev team for not folding. If there is a problem its publishers actively trying to keep woman off covers and out of games as the protagonist. Thankfully, BioWare has never had that problem. They still do sing the same mantra as the rest, but they are much better than most.

[Sylvius the Mad]

slimgrin wrote...

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

The Sin wrote...

One does not simply make impulse luxury purchases. One does not simply make purchases based on box art.

You're kidding, right?

I don't. It's 60 bloody dollars. I always research a game I buy.

Diminishing marginal utility.  Many people - particularly young people who don't have to pay their own living expenses - don't perceive $60 as significant.

Modifié par Sylvius the Mad, 04 juin 2013 - 03:21 .

[spirosz]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

spirosz wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

It's principle of the thing. The point of the thread is about having more female representation in general. It matters to some people. 

Does the game itself not have relevence to this issue?  Bioware could just not have a female protagonist, but they choose to because they know, females/males, whomever, would love to RP different types of characters and genders.  

Yes, Bioware is excellent in this regard.
But the cover is the game's face. It's what everyone sees. If they are going to have the protag on the cover, why not show a woman this time around. They can have the male version on the back. People can flip the cover if they want their box to have a male on the cover.

I'm sorry, but as I wrote before and of this day and age, if you really don't do research on something you want to purchase, then I don't know what to say.  A cover would of been a factor when I was younger and the internet wasn't as lively as it is today, but as of right now, you can see a cover, get the info on the game, see the details *Oh Hey look, I can play as male or female, sweet!*.  

Question, what do honestly do with your game after the first week?  Do you spend time looking at the cover, looking at the manual (that probably has a female version in there as well, lol) or do you just let it collect dust after a while?  

[spirosz]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

The Sin wrote...

One does not simply make impulse luxury purchases. One does not simply make purchases based on box art.

You're kidding, right?

I don't. It's 60 bloody dollars. I always research a game I buy.

Diminishing marginal utility.  Many people - particularly young people who don't have to pay their own living expenses - don't perceive $60 as significant.

That is very true and how I went about getting the games I had when I was younger.  Now I'm not in that position and I'm willing to argue many on this thread are not either. 

Modifié par spirosz, 04 juin 2013 - 03:26 .

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

[quote]Hitokirinome wrote...

Okay guys. Let me ask you a question? Did having a woman on the cover of the box stop you from buying Starcraft II: Heart of the Swarm? How about Tomb Raider? Blood Rayne 1 & 2? Bayonetta? Final Fantasy X-2? Final Fantasy XIII? Final Fantasy XIII-2? No it didn't. And if there were a F!Inquisitor on the cover of D3, you wouldn't care either.[/quote]

[/quote]
Tomb Raider? You know It probably did.

Blood Rayne 1 & 2? Yes.

Bayonetta? Yes, I seen the protagonist just  did not want.

Final Fantasy X-2? Final Fantasy XIII? Final Fantasy XIII-2? These 3 are bad examples because they are just awful awful games.

Mind you Mirror's Edge which is one of my favorite games has a female protagonist.


but at the end of the day my opinion doesn't matter, all that matters is the numbers, and the numbers say boxes with dudebro whose right hand holds the gun and the left hand holds the orange shift more units.

End of story.

Modifié par DinoSteve, 04 juin 2013 - 03:29 .

[Enigmatick]

DinoSteve wrote...

Tomb Raider? You know It probably did.

Blood Rayne 1 & 2? Yes.

Bayonetta? Yes, I seen the protagonist just  did not want.

Final Fantasy X-2? Final Fantasy XIII? Final Fantasy XIII-2? These 3 are bad examples because they are just awful awful games.

Mind you Mirror's Edge which is one of my favorite games has a female protagonist.

I'm confused did you not get Bayonetta because of how the protagonist looked? If so you missed out on a damn good game.

Modifié par Enigmatick, 04 juin 2013 - 03:28 .