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[Lulupab]

Bioware tends to not stand by things they show us. Velanna can make an entire forest become alive and as far as I know Dales is one of the greatest forests in Thedas if not the greatest one.

We also know that her attitude towards human's slowly changes in Awakening. She doesn't like them but she no longer sees them as honorless conquers.

So here is what happens: Velanna brings many trees to life in Dales and scares all humans away, The dalish come and settle, Conflict solved with Dalish claiming their land without further genocides.

[TheBlackBaron]

This would be a great idea if humans hadn't discovered fire.

[Lulupab]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

This would be a great idea if humans hadn't discovered fire.

This is all theory and all but only handful of humans would live in giant forests like Dales or Bericilian forest . Not only they are no match for that many trees burning them would mean burning their homes as well. Also Humans are not well known for caring for nature. I'm sure nature itself would like to have a few words.

[In Exile]

She's still a racist. She's just less of a militant racist.

And, anyway, I find it unlikely that the Dalish wouldn't get massacred under her leadership since she's 0/1 on that count.

[Thibax]

NATURE POWER!
We need more Nature power!
Velanna save Dragon Age Inquisition.
Calling all hallas, sylvans, werewolves, animals and plants.
Let's begin the Forest March against humans.

Beware, templars and mages.
Keepers are only starting. <3

Modifié par Thibax, 04 juin 2013 - 12:29 .

[Lavaeolus]

Rassler wrote...

So here is what happens: Velanna brings many trees to life in Dales and scares all humans away, The dalish come and settle, Conflict solved with Dalish claiming their land without further genocides.

Won't work in the long-run. People flee when scared, but then they often come back with swords; they'll think the Dalish are "attacking" them and proceed to fight back.

Modifié par Mr Maniac, 04 juin 2013 - 12:38 .

[LobselVith8]

Rassler wrote...

Bioware tends to not stand by things they show us. Velanna can make an entire forest become alive and as far as I know Dales is one of the greatest forests in Thedas if not the greatest one.

We also know that her attitude towards human's slowly changes in Awakening. She doesn't like them but she no longer sees them as honorless conquers.

So here is what happens: Velanna brings many trees to life in Dales and scares all humans away, The dalish come and settle, Conflict solved with Dalish claiming their land without further genocides.

It would be a good idea to use the Orlesian civil war and the continential Mage-Templar War to dislodge the Orlesian Empire from the occupied kingdom of the Dales. The Dalish clans - united - might stand a chance with the rest of the world (as well as the fractured empire of Orlais) distracted.

[kinderschlager]

Thibax wrote...

NATURE POWER!
We need more Nature power!
Velanna save Dragon Age Inquisition.
Calling all hallas, sylvans, werewolves, animals and plants.
Let's begin the Forest March against humans.

Beware, templars and mages.
Keepers are only starting. <3

i can get behind this, bioware seems to have comlpetly ignored my elvish characters in BA2.....Alistair is the  only one that mentions them:pinched:

[Herr Uhl]

kinderschlager wrote...

i can get behind this, bioware seems to have comlpetly ignored my elvish characters in BA2.....Alistair is the  only one that mentions them:pinched:

You're wording it like they were ignored more than any other character.

[MisterJB]

I like how the suggested solution to the violence between humans and elves is to have trees do violent things instead.

[LobselVith8]

MisterJB wrote...

I like how the suggested solution to the violence between humans and elves is to have trees do violent things instead.

The use of Sylvans were the suggested solution to liberating the Dales from the Orlesian Empire.

[MisterJB]

And the day was saved again by Captain Obvious.
On another news, people die if they are killed.

Modifié par MisterJB, 04 juin 2013 - 01:04 .

[In Exile]

LobselVith8 wrote...

It would be a good idea to use the Orlesian civil war and the continential Mage-Templar War to dislodge the Orlesian Empire from the occupied kingdom of the Dales. The Dalish clans - united - might stand a chance with the rest of the world (as well as the fractured empire of Orlais) distracted.

And what do you think will happen when the world isn't distracted? Either we'll get Exalted March II: Electric Bugaloo, or a lot of qunari interment camps in Harmishal. 

[BlueMagitek]

So the Dalish want to improve their image and show that they are not violent raiders who will shoot humans for just being in the vicinity (Dalish Origin) or worship demons and drink baby blood by forcing demons into trees.

Okay. Next they should ignore a Blight, that'll work out well for them.

[LobselVith8]

MisterJB wrote...

And the day was saved again by Captain Obvious.
On another news, people die if they are killed. 

Your post didn't even address the original thread. The thread is about emancipating the Dales from Orlais through the use of magic - with multiple people using the same kind of spell that allowed Velanna to command the trees of Amaranthine, not about the relationship between humans and elves.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I think it was a reference to the fact that the use of sylvans would supposedly solve the conflict between elves and humans "without further genocides" as if just the threat of violence will cause the inhabitants to flee without any fighting just because the trees are used instead of elves.

Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 04 juin 2013 - 01:49 .

[LobselVith8]

In Exile wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

It would be a good idea to use the Orlesian civil war and the continential Mage-Templar War to dislodge the Orlesian Empire from the occupied kingdom of the Dales. The Dalish clans - united - might stand a chance with the rest of the world (as well as the fractured empire of Orlais) distracted.

And what do you think will happen when the world isn't distracted? Either we'll get Exalted March II: Electric Bugaloo, or a lot of qunari interment camps in Harmishal. 

Or autonomous mages who weren't defeated by the Andrastian Chantry or the Templar Order. That would be my ideal outcome: elves from all across Thedas coming together in the new elven capital while the independent mages forge a new path as free men and women.

[Insaner Robot]

It really couldn't work the uncharted Arbor Wilds only border the Dales on one side, whilst most human settlements are on the opposite side at the coast. And let's not forget that the humans have been there for 700 years, long enough to want to fight for their homes.

If the Elves ever want to return to not regain the Dales they will first have to strive to end any violence not perpetuate it. Hopefully by proving they're as wise as it's claimed and making the first move in that direction.

LobselVith8 wrote...

Or autonomous mages who weren't defeated by the Andrastian Chantry or the Templar Order. That would be my ideal outcome: elves from all across Thedas coming together in the new elven capital while the independent mages forge a new path as free men and women.

Wouldn't letting the rebelling mages join them have to include human mages also?
If so what about their supposed immortality?

Or would Elves be cohabitating with humans? In which case why would the current inhabitants need to be driven out?

[Dave of Canada]

Rassler wrote...

So here is what happens: Velanna brings many trees to life in Dales and scares all humans away, The dalish come and settle, Conflict solved with Dalish claiming their land without further genocides.

Assuming the humans don't fight back and the other elves don't support massive slaughter of humans, you're just giving the humans more reason to return and slaughter all the dalish. They'd all be conveniently gathered too!

Actually, I'd love this idea. We'd finally kill all the supremacists.

[In Exile]

LobselVith8 wrote...
Or autonomous mages who weren't defeated by the Andrastian Chantry or the Templar Order. That would be my ideal outcome: elves from all across Thedas coming together in the new elven capital while the independent mages forge a new path as free men and women.

What do you mean, or autonomous mages? Even if we assume that the mages can carve out their own swath of land along with the elves creating a free kingdom in the Dales, you'll have broken up at least two major powers in Thedas (the White Chantry and Orlais), which leaves things ripe for the Qunari. 

In terms of a future for either the mages or the Dalish, it's crucial to win a political as well as a military victory, or else the barbarians at the gate (so to speak) will overrun them all, now that they have the tome of Koslun. 

edit: Also, do you mean the mages coming into the Dales? Because I'm sure that the human mages would not want to live in an elven state as second class citizens. 

Modifié par In Exile, 04 juin 2013 - 02:56 .

[thats1evildude]

As sylvans are basically spirits trapped in trees, you would need a large number of spirits to accomplish this deed. I doubt Velanna has the power to crack open the Fade, summon hundreds of spirits, seal up the Veil again and then exercise precise control over hundreds of sylvans to prevent them from slaughtering every living being they find, human or elf.

In all likelihood, the end result of your plan would probably be a demonic apocalypse.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 04 juin 2013 - 03:03 .

[Angrywolves]

For the elves to get back the Dales Orlais would have to agree as would the Chantry. The Dalish lack the military strength to take it by force.

[LobselVith8]

Insaner Robot wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

Or autonomous mages who weren't defeated by the Andrastian Chantry or the Templar Order. That would be my ideal outcome: elves from all across Thedas coming together in the new elven capital while the independent mages forge a new path as free men and women. 

Wouldn't letting the rebelling mages join them have to include human mages also?
If so what about their supposed immortality?

Or would Elves be cohabitating with humans? In which case why would the current inhabitants need to be driven out?

I was thinking about an elven kingdom where the elves would be free to follow their own religious views and restore their culture, rather than live in Andrastian kingdoms where the Creators are outlawed and where they are limited to being servants or slaves.

That said, I think Thedas is big enough for an independent elven kingdom and a mecca for mages.

[DRobin13]

Rassler wrote...

Bioware tends to not stand by things they show us. Velanna can make an entire forest become alive and as far as I know Dales is one of the greatest forests in Thedas if not the greatest one.

We also know that her attitude towards human's slowly changes in Awakening. She doesn't like them but she no longer sees them as honorless conquers.

So here is what happens: Velanna brings many trees to life in Dales and scares all humans away, The dalish come and settle, Conflict solved with Dalish claiming their land without further genocides.

I wouldn't be surprised if we see Velanna in DA:I fighting for the elves. As far as seeing an outright war to take back the Dales, I wouldn't expect it in DA3. It would be a little cliche since we already have a war between Mages & Templars unless it takes place within this war as well. Killing 2 birds w/ one stone.

I wouldn't mind helping Velanna take back the elves home:lol: