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[LPPrince]

Dextro Milk wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Aye. Gonna be marrying Lady Grey again! Probably. We'll see.

I always pick her. 

That guy can find another girl to bring back to life. 

I take it you loved The Corpse Bride.

[Ravensword]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

I don't understand all the hate for that game. Could someone enlighten a non-Fabler as to the issues w/ that game, please?

You start the game off, you're given an interesting premise: Your brother is a douchebag king of Albion undergoing Industrial Revolution. He's forcing people to work in factories overtime and he's crushing revolts and peaceful protests. You--being the protagonist--are thrown into a storyline with some decent characters to stop him, your dog is there too but unlike the second game remains completely irrelevant and was thrown in just because.

Fable 2 was lauded as an over-simplified mess compared to the first one, Fable 3 does the same regarding Fable 2. You've got no health bar, relegated to regenerative health instead in a game which is already ******-poor easy with no dying mechanic. In addition, they removed all menus. Every. single. one.

You can't pause the game, it brings you into an alternate dimension where you can access options and such in seperate rooms. There's no more shop menu either, instead adopting a very Harvest Moon-esque system where items are placed on a counter and you grab it to buy it. This was done after people they questioned claimed the second game too "complicated".

You can also grab civilians at any time, drag them around them and they don't give a ****. This mostly comes across as a pointless feature which Molyneux half-baked and praised without doing anything with it, it's often just thrown in for side-quests where you drag people from point A to point B.

As you progress through the game, the plot has it's fun ups and downs until you reach the half-way point and you're introduced to the "true" villain, some shadowy thing which has no motivation aside from killing all life, your brother discovered this and this is why he became a tyrant, he hopes to protect everyone by prepping the people.

Decent "war" scene occurs, you overthrow your brother and you're suddenly thrust into becoming King/Queen with your brother's responsibilities and the promises you made to your fellows coming back to haunt you. Technically.

The game's "good and evil" morality has never been more flawed, you're placed as king and the main story takes a screeching halt in which the player has to do his duties as King/Queen which include on how to deal with the kingdom. Do you remain a tyrant in order to protect the people but earn their disfavor? Do you uphold your promises despite knowing it might doom the people?

An interesting conflict which could've been handled infinitely better, you're sitting on your throne and you hear the claims from both sides and they associate one as "good" and one as "evil", rubbing in the "evil" part to make you especially bad. Do you build a brothel or do you build an orphanage? Do you mine out the other continent or protect it? Etc.

All choices ultimately come down to one thing: Currency. Building an orphanage requires you to invest thousands of gold, building the brothel earns you wealth instead and the wealth ultimately means how "prepared" you are for the final conflict.

This means you can be the paragon of virtue and just halt the main quest to farm gold and have the optimal ending, you can bake pie and somehow amass thousands of gold and save the lives of everyone. This is plain idiotic, the choices go from practicallity and pragmatism to pie baking.

About the "main quest", you're also never told when it'll progress. You're given one year to accumulate the gold required, sometimes events trigger in the main quest which advance the time from a month or two and you're always feeling like you've got time to prepare, you've got pies to bake, etc.

No. The game skips around eight or so months to advance you to the final quest, you're dropped on your ass and told "have fun" as you're presented to a scene which remains completely identical regardless if you amassed the wealth which the game poked you with.

The difference between having collected the gold and not having it means nothing, towns will either be filled with people (if you had the gold) or be empty (if you didn't) but have them eventually respawn back to normal conditions. No-one cares either, side-quests and pedestrians never mention anything and the game goes on as if nothing happened.

In other words, it was total ****.

Wow. That's a lotta wrong things going on for Fable 3.

Modifié par Ravensword, 05 juin 2013 - 03:40 .

[saMoorai]

Jayne126 wrote...

saMOOrai182 wrote...

Then they might as well make 4.

True, but Lionhead does do a lot of nonsensical things. 

[LPPrince]

Part of Fable's charm is the nonsensical nature of some of the game, hah.

But Lionhead's practices? Those should make sense.

[saMoorai]

They SHOULD, but I don't see the sense in Fable 2's menus being too complicated.

They were pretty simple stuff.

[LPPrince]

I had no issues with Fable 2's menus.

The Sanctuary in Fable 3 was too much.

[LPPrince]

Jayne126 wrote...

But scrolling is hard. It's a lot more easier with the sanctuary.

Load it up, go to room, go to weapon stash, search for weapon, press button to show weapon, take weapon and go out.

Can't you see?

You forgot the sarcasm tags.

You meant

[sarcasm] But scrolling is hard. It's a lot more easier with the sanctuary.

Load it up, go to room, go to weapon stash, search for weapon, press button to show weapon, take weapon and go out.

Can't you see? [/sarcasm]

[Dave of Canada]

Jayne126 wrote...

But scrolling is hard. It's a lot more easier with the sanctuary.

Load it up, go to room, go to weapon stash, search for weapon, press button to show weapon, take weapon and go out.

Can't you see?

I love spending five minutes to grab one weapon each time rather than spending five minutes learning the menu once.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 05 juin 2013 - 04:07 .

[LPPrince]

I'm pretty sure they aren't hardheaded enough to bring back The Sanctuary.

[Dextro Milk]

LPPrince wrote...

I'm pretty sure they aren't hardheaded enough to bring back The Sanctuary.

I don't mind it as a place you could choose to visit.

But as a menu? No thx

[LPPrince]

I'd rather just avoid it at this point.

[Galbrant]

Looking forward to it. I hope they add extra content to bring back fans who's looking for more than a graphical update.... but I only played the base game so I'll still got new stuff to play in the lost chapters. So looking forward to it.

[Dextro Milk]

LPPrince wrote...

I'd rather just avoid it at this point.

True, best to be safe. 

[LPPrince]

Don't think there will be extra content, but you never know. For God's sake there could be DLCs we'd never see coming. loool

[Dextro Milk]

Well, this better be for PC as well. I'm not buying a game for a console evar again.

Last I heard it was still just Xbox 360...

[LPPrince]

Aye, so far it looks to be just for 360. Tons of players are calling for a PC version though, so if Lionhead really is doing this for the fans, there should be a PC version down the line.

[OdanUrr]

LPPrince wrote...

Aye, so far it looks to be just for 360. Tons of players are calling for a PC version though, so if Lionhead really is doing this for the fans, there should be a PC version down the line.

Only for Windows 8.

[LPPrince]

Makes me glad I game on 360 currently, I have no worries.

[Dextro Milk]

OdanUrr wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Aye, so far it looks to be just for 360. Tons of players are calling for a PC version though, so if Lionhead really is doing this for the fans, there should be a PC version down the line.

Only for Windows 8.

Good thing I'm getting it with my new PC... 

(Yes, I know all the complaints about 8, no need to tell me about how bad of a choice I made)

[LPPrince]

Dextro Milk wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Aye, so far it looks to be just for 360. Tons of players are calling for a PC version though, so if Lionhead really is doing this for the fans, there should be a PC version down the line.

Only for Windows 8.

Good thing I'm getting it with my new PC... 

(Yes, I know all the complaints about 8, no need to tell me about how bad of a choice I made)

You'll be fine. 

[stonbw1]

LPPrince wrote...

Makes me glad I game on 360 currently, I have no worries.

Well, apparently 'The Last of Us' (exclusive to PS3) is being anointed GOTY already.  Makes me want to trade my 360 in for a PS3 ....

[OdanUrr]

stonbw1 wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Makes me glad I game on 360 currently, I have no worries.

Well, apparently 'The Last of Us' (exclusive to PS3) is being anointed GOTY already.  Makes me want to trade my 360 in for a PS3 ....

How can a game that hasn't even released be considered GOTY?

[LPPrince]

Eh, let that head somewhere else.

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