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[Tenshi]

 that mages should be free, when he doesnt understand that pretty much every free mage can cause mass murder or cataclysm no matter if he wants or not. 

edit: i could have writen this into pretty long wall of text but i prefer this 

Modifié par xxx2emo4Uxxx, 04 juin 2013 - 06:19 .

[BouncyFrag]

I don't have the link but I recall a dev/writer posted that things were a bit overdone in DA2 with all the batpoop crazy mages and the plot in general. The more DA3 stands on its own without the baggage from DA2, the better.

Modifié par BouncyFrag, 04 juin 2013 - 06:24 .

[Liamv2]

I hate both

[Tinu]

This is Chantry propaganda.

[Chaos Lord Malek]

TinuHawke wrote...

This is Chantry propaganda.

Says the mage.

[Dabrikishaw]

The grammar....

[Liamv2]

Dabrikishaw wrote...

The grammar....

wats gramer

[IanPolaris]

I don't think all Templars are evil nor all mages good. I think they are both people. That said, I do think the Templar organization is evil at least right now. It might have good intentions and it might have had the best of intentions once.

However, just because an organization might be evil (a point I know is subject to dispute) doesn't mean that everyone that is a part of it is.

-Polaris

[BouncyFrag]

xxx2emo4Uxxx wrote...

 that mages should be free, when he doesnt understand that pretty much every free mage can cause mass murder or cataclysm no matter if he wants or not. 

edit: i could have writen this into pretty long wall of text but i prefer this 

It also works as a meme. A picture is worth at least a thousand words, or at the very least, a wall of text.

[Lobos1988]

if there wasn't mage hawke that was (if played that way) a hard badass mage killer... I don't really see what the templars are afraid of... all of the mages are either whiny or abominations/bloodmages... and most of the whiny ones become one of the latter sooner or later (this is what DA2 tells us)... just kill'em when they're still whiny.

[InfinitePaths]

Well the idea is.Just because someone can cause damage doesn't mean that he/she will.A farmer with a pitchfork could murder his/hers entire family but doesn't mean that he/she will.

[IanPolaris]

Lobos1988 wrote...

if there wasn't mage hawke that was (if played that way) a hard badass mage killer... I don't really see what the templars are afraid of... all of the mages are either whiny or abominations/bloodmages... and most of the whiny ones become one of the latter sooner or later (this is what DA2 tells us)... just kill'em when they're still whiny.

Nice.  "Kill them all, the Maker will know his own."

-Polaris

[billy the squid]

The Qun is the answer, embrace enlightenment.

[Lobos1988]

HeriocGreyWarden wrote...

Well the idea is.Just because someone can cause damage doesn't mean that he/she will.A farmer with a pitchfork could murder his/hers entire family but doesn't mean that he/she will.

are we having the "are people allowed to have guns" discussion?

just seeing some resemblances :innocent:

[Tenshi]

HeriocGreyWarden wrote...

Well the idea is.Just because someone can cause damage doesn't mean that he/she will.A farmer with a pitchfork could murder his/hers entire family but doesn't mean that he/she will.

thats something entirely different. farmer with pitchfork cant wipe out whole city just because he had badluck and demon liked him.

Modifié par xxx2emo4Uxxx, 04 juin 2013 - 07:28 .

[garrusfan1]

. a mage can kill easier but anyone can kill. I had a whole thing typed about how easy it would be to do the same damage but I think telling people how to would get me banned. honestly mages need education but they deserve to be free as well. so basically they should have to go to a school when they are younger or have someone come to their house to teach them but they should be free and not have to live in a pretty prison

[HurricaneGinger]

BouncyFrag wrote...

I don't have the link but I recall a dev/writer posted that things were a bit overdone in DA2 with all the batpoop crazy mages and the plot in general. The more DA3 stands on its own without the baggage from DA2, the better.

I know the article you're talking about. They filled Kirkwall with blood mages and kinda forgot about the good mages: "Oh, hey, there are good mages too and we forgot to put them in." At least I think that's what it says (in paraphrase). I also think they were trying to show how corrupt Kirkwall could become under such misguided and abusive hands. People are driven to extremes, not that it's much of an excuse. 

[Melca36]

xxx2emo4Uxxx wrote...

 that mages should be free, when he doesnt understand that pretty much every free mage can cause mass murder or cataclysm no matter if he wants or not. 

edit: i could have writen this into pretty long wall of text but i prefer this 

Did you even the first reply to your post. The developers have acknowledged it was an error.  Not all mages are evil and they dont deserve to be raped and abused.

[garrusfan1]

xxx2emo4Uxxx wrote...

HeriocGreyWarden wrote...

Well the idea is.Just because someone can cause damage doesn't mean that he/she will.A farmer with a pitchfork could murder his/hers entire family but doesn't mean that he/she will.

thats something entirely different. farmer with pitchfork cant wipe out whole city just because he had badluck and demon liked him.

you are naive. you could do the same with no magic and no demon by that logic everyone should be in prison and noone should be allowed out since they could cause alot of damage. there is no point arguing with you people. look do mages need education yes they need mandatory schooling to teach them how to use magic safely but after they turn a certain age and learned how to control their magic then they should be allowed to do whatever they want. and they shouldn't be taken away from their family there family should be allowed to live with them or hire a tutor for them. see I can see middle ground

[Lobos1988]

wow calling people naive over a pc game...

[garrusfan1]

Lobos1988 wrote...

wow calling people naive over a pc game...

a PC game I have never played dragon age on a PC

[Lobos1988]

VIDEO game... doesn't make up for the fact.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

garrusfan1 wrote...

xxx2emo4Uxxx wrote...

HeriocGreyWarden wrote...

Well the idea is.Just because someone can cause damage doesn't mean that he/she will.A farmer with a pitchfork could murder his/hers entire family but doesn't mean that he/she will.

thats something entirely different. farmer with pitchfork cant wipe out whole city just because he had badluck and demon liked him.

you are naive. you could do the same with no magic and no demon by that logic everyone should be in prison and noone should be allowed out since they could cause alot of damage. there is no point arguing with you people. look do mages need education yes they need mandatory schooling to teach them how to use magic safely but after they turn a certain age and learned how to control their magic then they should be allowed to do whatever they want. and they shouldn't be taken away from their family there family should be allowed to live with them or hire a tutor for them. see I can see middle ground

See, the problem is that hiring tutors for mages has been tried. By Isolde. The results were devestation of the sort no farmer with a pitchfork could have accomplished. Attack the circles all you want, but pick a different mode of attack. This one doesn't work.

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 04 juin 2013 - 07:55 .

[garrusfan1]

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

xxx2emo4Uxxx wrote...

HeriocGreyWarden wrote...

Well the idea is.Just because someone can cause damage doesn't mean that he/she will.A farmer with a pitchfork could murder his/hers entire family but doesn't mean that he/she will.

thats something entirely different. farmer with pitchfork cant wipe out whole city just because he had badluck and demon liked him.

you are naive. you could do the same with no magic and no demon by that logic everyone should be in prison and noone should be allowed out since they could cause alot of damage. there is no point arguing with you people. look do mages need education yes they need mandatory schooling to teach them how to use magic safely but after they turn a certain age and learned how to control their magic then they should be allowed to do whatever they want. and they shouldn't be taken away from their family there family should be allowed to live with them or hire a tutor for them. see I can see middle ground

See, the problem is that hiring tutors for mages has been tried. By Isolde. The results were devestation of the sort no farmer with a pitchfork could have accomplished. Attack the circles all you want, but pick a different mode of attack. This one doesn't work.

she picked jowan who was a blood mage and was hired to kill arl eamon I am talking about an accomplished mage that is approved by an agency that would give them a license to teach magic not some random mage that is an apprentice and was hired to kill the childs father

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

garrusfan1 wrote...

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

you are naive. you could do the same with no magic and no demon by that logic everyone should be in prison and noone should be allowed out since they could cause alot of damage. there is no point arguing with you people. look do mages need education yes they need mandatory schooling to teach them how to use magic safely but after they turn a certain age and learned how to control their magic then they should be allowed to do whatever they want. and they shouldn't be taken away from their family there family should be allowed to live with them or hire a tutor for them. see I can see middle ground

See, the problem is that hiring tutors for mages has been tried. By Isolde. The results were devestation of the sort no farmer with a pitchfork could have accomplished. Attack the circles all you want, but pick a different mode of attack. This one doesn't work.

she picked jowan who was a blood mage and was hired to kill arl eamon I am talking about an accomplished mage that is approved by an agency that would give them a license to teach magic not some random mage that is an apprentice and was hired to kill the childs father

I don't see how this invalidates my point. An assassin can get in without this system, and what then? How much difference do you think having an accomplished, non-blood-using mage makes when the kid gets desparate enough?* A large part of the argument for the Circles is that in the event of a failure where a kid goes abomination, the new abomination is at least surrounded by Templars.

*All Isolde wanted Connor to learn was how to not get posessed or found out anyway. Say what you will about Jowan, he never gets posessed himself and he stays under Eamon's nose.

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 04 juin 2013 - 08:21 .