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[pamig107]

Allison_Lightning wrote...

My Shepard with Kaidan would have a few children, three at the most. To them, their parents aren't the first and second human spectres, saviors of the galaxy but the annoying stick-in-the-muds who not only embarrass them at parent-teacher conferences but are paranoid. They inherited biotics (as its only been a handful of decades and both parents are biotic, I hardly think there's a definitive answer) but they're just average, or really lazy.

They get babysat by former squadmates that Shepard trusts as between her Akuze squad and Brooks she's very leery of any extremists looking to touch her kids to get to her or to see what they've inherited. They don't want to hear that their mother is a Spectre and saved the galaxy from the Reapers. That's Commander Shepard, not "Mom" who shows their baby holopictures to everyone who meets them and the legendary biotic spectre who can blast a singularity on par or better than an Asari as she tears mooks apart with her mind, swinging her assault rifle around a cool figure a far distance from the woman who uses her biotics to go through their rooms for the dirty laundry she will throw at them.

Wow, just, wow. 

[Ultimate Pheer]

Must say, I actually am rather impressed.

[Ultimate Pheer]

Though, that really isn't too far out of the norm for headcanon.

You should see mine.

[Anubis722]

Since my Shepard is with Tali they would just adopt a Quarian baby girl.

[Ultimate Pheer]

I am ok with Talimancers adopting- but it's people who don't understand how genetics would prevent shepard and tali from having kids, no matter the technobabble they tried using, make me angry.

[PHGDAL]

Ultimate Pheer wrote...

I am ok with Talimancers adopting- but it's people who don't understand how genetics would prevent shepard and tali from having kids, no matter the technobabble they tried using, make me angry.

When I said they would be capable, I meant it. 
If they were able to fully decode the DNA for both species, they can just select traits that appear on humans and engineer them to appear on a quarian. Obviously that would limit a lot and the baby wouldn't be genetically linked to Shepard, but it would be "their child".

[Ultimate Pheer]

You do realize how incomprehensibly complex DNA is, right?

And... DNA doesn't work that way anyway.

You can't simply pick out random human bits of DNA and slap them into a strand of Quarian DNA and randomly get a quarian-human hybrid- Genes do not work like that. Genetics are not simply Lego bricks to play around with, and you can't take bits out and mix and match... Sure, with enough genetic engineering (And I am talking a truly absurd amount here,) You could possibly get a quarian with an immune system somewhat closer to a turian's than is standard for quarians- but you have no chance of just unzipping a strand of DNA and rearranging bits to have more humanlike characteristics.

[Allison_Lightning]

Ultimate Pheer wrote...

Must say, I actually am rather impressed.

Well, unless the kids are unrealistic 'in the shadow' angst ridden- they would be like many children are. They don't see what their parents accomplish they just see the dorks they hope won't go out in public with them. That counts for any of the pairings really. I don't see many Shepards as not trying to give their children a normal life and as for the born perfect part- well when I kept reading that, I was tempted to put a more realistic spin on it- average or lazy biotics and definitely averagely behaved children. 

And I write fiction, so it was really just a quick five minute template. I'm questioning why anyone would think a bro!Shepard and Miranda partnership (sterility healed) would procure perfect kids. Miri (Miranda) seems the last person to push her kids to be perfect. Genes between parents are fairly randomized and, she of all people wouldn't have her kid engineered. If anything, they'd probably teach their children it's okay to be normal and make mistakes.

Clarification: Science fiction (original fiction)

Modifié par Allison_Lightning, 09 juin 2013 - 07:59 .

[Mello]

Allison_Lightning wrote...

My Shepard with Kaidan would have a few children, three at the most. To them, their parents aren't the first and second human spectres, saviors of the galaxy but the annoying stick-in-the-muds who not only embarrass them at parent-teacher conferences but are paranoid. They inherited biotics (as its only been a handful of decades and both parents are biotic, I hardly think there's a definitive answer) but they're just average, or really lazy.

They get babysat by former squadmates that Shepard trusts as between her Akuze squad and Brooks she's very leery of any extremists looking to touch her kids to get to her or to see what they've inherited. They don't want to hear that their mother is a Spectre and saved the galaxy from the Reapers. That's Commander Shepard, not "Mom" who shows their baby holopictures to everyone who meets them and the legendary biotic spectre who can blast a singularity on par or better than an Asari as she tears mooks apart with her mind, swinging her assault rifle around a cool figure a far distance from the woman who uses her biotics to go through their rooms for the dirty laundry she will throw at them.

Yes, oh yes. <3

[Ultimate Pheer]

Really? Cool. I'm thinking about writing fiction too. More important to me right now though is getting people to understand how incompatible human and alien DNA is.

[TheWerdna]

Finn the Jakey wrote...

Ultimate Pheer wrote...

I am ok with Talimancers adopting- but it's people who don't understand how genetics would prevent shepard and tali from having kids, no matter the technobabble they tried using, make me angry.

I've seen people coming up with reasons for Garrus and Shepard having a baby.



I mean...they're not even the same class of life.

Agreed. I mean, I am a Talimancer and I actually get angry whenever someone suggest hybrid babies.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

TheWerdna wrote...

Finn the Jakey wrote...

Ultimate Pheer wrote...

I am ok with Talimancers adopting- but it's people who don't understand how genetics would prevent shepard and tali from having kids, no matter the technobabble they tried using, make me angry.

I've seen people coming up with reasons for Garrus and Shepard having a baby.



I mean...they're not even the same class of life.

Agreed. I mean, I am a Talimancer and I actually get angry whenever someone suggest hybrid babies.

I've had a Talimancer tell me that it was possible to have a hybrd child, yet tell me that having a child with Miranda would be impossible due to her infertility. He was completely serious about it too. I particularly liked how he said Miranda is invalid as an LI since she can't have children and that she doesn't deserve to have children due to her attitude and demeanor.

[TheWerdna]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

TheWerdna wrote...

Finn the Jakey wrote...

Ultimate Pheer wrote...

I am ok with Talimancers adopting- but it's people who don't understand how genetics would prevent shepard and tali from having kids, no matter the technobabble they tried using, make me angry.

I've seen people coming up with reasons for Garrus and Shepard having a baby.



I mean...they're not even the same class of life.

Agreed. I mean, I am a Talimancer and I actually get angry whenever someone suggest hybrid babies.

I've had a Talimancer tell me that it was possible to have a hybrd child, yet tell me that having a child with Miranda would be impossible due to her infertility. He was completely serious about it too. I particularly liked how he said Miranda is invalid as an LI since she can't have children and that she doesn't deserve to have children due to her attitude and demeanor.

*brain explodes*

Well, I've always said there were complete morons within every character's fanbase.

[Phatose]

Ultimate Pheer wrote...

Really? Cool. I'm thinking about writing fiction too. More important to me right now though is getting people to understand how incompatible human and alien DNA is.

It's not actually about DNA though.  I mean, fundamentally DNA is quaterny - easily reduced to binary.  AGCT.  A is 00, G is 01, C is 10, T is 11.  And DNA is just bits on a hard drive.  Not actually enough to create anything.  Well, technically, actually enough to create everything - because the encoding system isn't specified.

The thing that everybody always ignores is the DNA only actually fucntions because it's in an extremely complex cellular environment.  Our cells, via our ribosomes, are essentially a compiler for that that code.  DNA only has 'meaning' in the context of our cellular structure, which is also inherited from our parents.  We tend to ignore that, but it's the root of the entire system.

Without that context.....everything falls apart. 

[Gold Dragon]

MaleShep with Tali And Femshep with Garrus COULD have children.  The same way that Henry Lawson had "twin" daughters (Miranda and Oriana), especially since they never had (biological) mothers.

Expensive, but Doable.  The Only truly impossible LI match to have kids is with Thane. For painfully Obvious reasons.

For me:

Femsheps LI is Kaidan.  And between the Citadel Party and the night before the assault on Cereberus HQ, she gets pregnant, delivering her firstborn precisely 9 months from the end of the war.  To the DAY.  She retired from public live, devoting herself to raising a family.

Only the Soldier doesn't get pregnant.  But then, she never survived the Collector Base, either.  ANd the Crew is STILL scratching their heads about it, since Miranda and Legion swear that Shepard was with them to destroy the Proto-reaper, yet Chakwas had already brought the Commander's dead body onboard the Normandy.  The option to radiate the base was never given, since EDI told TIM that Shepard was already dead, and proved it.

MaleShep's LI is Ash.  Ash doesn't get pregnant at the end of the war, but precisely 9 months after their wedding, she's in the Maternity Ward.  Ash's Wedding Ring was the Victory Ring that EDI Gave him.  The Shepards continued to serve in the military, with him getting command over the ICT (N7 training).

Modifié par A Golden Dragon, 09 juin 2013 - 07:20 .

[Ultimate Pheer]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

TheWerdna wrote...

Finn the Jakey wrote...

Ultimate Pheer wrote...

I am ok with Talimancers adopting- but it's people who don't understand how genetics would prevent shepard and tali from having kids, no matter the technobabble they tried using, make me angry.

I've seen people coming up with reasons for Garrus and Shepard having a baby.



I mean...they're not even the same class of life.

Agreed. I mean, I am a Talimancer and I actually get angry whenever someone suggest hybrid babies.

I've had a Talimancer tell me that it was possible to have a hybrd child, yet tell me that having a child with Miranda would be impossible due to her infertility. He was completely serious about it too. I particularly liked how he said Miranda is invalid as an LI since she can't have children and that she doesn't deserve to have children due to her attitude and demeanor.

*Brain melts*

I'm not sure if that is a paradox, a psycho, or just someone who is INCOMPREHENSIBLY wrong about EVERYTHING, and i'm not sure I want to know.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

A Golden Dragon wrote...

MaleShep with Tali And Femshep with Garrus COULD have children.  The same way that Henry Lawson had "twin" daughters (Miranda and Oriana), especially since they never had (biological) mothers.

Expensive, but Doable.  The Only truly impossible LI match to have kids is with Thane. For painfully Obvious reasons.

Yep. It's called adoption. Or cloning of a Turian, Quarian, or human. That's the only way you're having a child.

[Dextro Milk]

Cloning for the sake of having a child just seems like you care more about "blood" than the actual bond you make with the child.

Adoption is the way to go for the Dextro-mancers.

Modifié par Dextro Milk, 09 juin 2013 - 03:25 .

[Ultimate Pheer]

Dextro Milk wrote...

Cloning for the sake of having a child just seems like you care more about "blood" than the actual bond you make with the child.

Adoption is the way to go for the Dextro-mancers.

Precisely- We just got done with a war against a race of giant-robotic-space-cuttlefish, there are going to be plenty of kids to adopt.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Finn the Jakey wrote...
And just my opinion, but Shepard and Miranda adopting seems like the best ultimate 'f*ck you'  to her father and his 'legacy'.

Overcoming his meddling with her reproductive system to give birth to her own child with Shepard seems better to me.

As for adoption, it's not for me. I'd rather have my own child. That's how Shepard and Miranda feel in my universe.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 09 juin 2013 - 05:05 .

[MasterKiller64]

Ultimate Pheer wrote...

I am ok with Talimancers adopting- but it's people who don't understand how genetics would prevent shepard and tali from having kids, no matter the technobabble they tried using, make me angry.

I'm not a Talimancer but why does people headcanoning hybrid kids make you angry? Do you have some inner problem that every single headcanon must be to your liking? Headcanon has no limits.

Modifié par MasterKiller64, 09 juin 2013 - 06:20 .

[Bleachrude]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Finn the Jakey wrote...
And just my opinion, but Shepard and Miranda adopting seems like the best ultimate 'f*ck you'  to her father and his 'legacy'.

Overcoming his meddling with her reproductive system to give birth to her own child with Shepard seems better to me.

As for adoption, it's not for me. I'd rather have my own child. That's how Shepard and Miranda feel in my universe.

I got to agree with others....to me, it makes more sense and more of a "FU" to Henry if Miranda becomes genuinely happy and content with raising an adopted child.

Especially if said child then goes on to become the inheritor of the Lawson estate which I assume is currently Miranda (if alive).

[PHGDAL]

I think many people misunderstood what I meant, when I said you could use Shepard's DNA to have a child with Tali, I meant it the same way as an Asari would have children, use the other's DNA to randomise the child's DNA. The child would be 100% quarian, no link to human DNA whatsoever. I didn't mean you could cut bits and strap them onto another DNA - no. I meant things like distance between the eyes, find the gene in Shepard and make sure that the child's Quarian gene results with the same distance, and so forth.

The way you would have a quarian with some basic appearance characteristics that would resemble Shepard's, but in no way be genetically linked to him.

Sure it would be expensive and complicated as hell but if they were able to genetically engineer a bunch of stuff, I'm sure their knowledge and decoding abilities of DNA are far better than our own (since they can even clone humans).