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[Cainne Chapel]

Gromnir wrote...

The OP is going to be really upset when he realizes he can't buy a used copy of the DLC or sell his copy of it when he's done playing.

I think a big reason why game companies are pushing DLC (as opposed to purchased expansion disks) is because of the used games market. This is also why you're seeing things like the online passes that come free with a new purchase.

Games are still incredibly cheap forms of entertainment. I've been gaming for a long time, and the price of new games hasn't gone up that much while the amount of content has increased exponentially. I will agree that DLC doesn't usually give nearly as much bang for the buck as the original game (even at new/full price), which is why I choose to purchase DLC only for my favorite games to extend the content on a game that has already proven itself.

I recall a time when to judge a games worth one had to read Nintendo power... or look at the back of the cardboard cut out in toys r us .

But I would agree in general games offer a lot of bang for the buck.  But then people don't often look at the way they spend money like that.  Especially if they're doing it all up front as with the OP.  As for myself, as I bought the DLC over the course of the year it was released the total price doesn't bother me near as much, but i can understand.

[Darth Krytie]

I think a part of the problem here is assuming this content would have made it into the final game if DLC didn't exist. Which, to be honest, it wouldn't. Most of the anti-DLC crowd fail to realise this important fact. Not having DLC doesn't necessarily mean your game would be longer. It probably wouldn't. Just check out most pre-DLC games and see.

[emanziboy]

voteDC wrote...

Had Mass Effect ended with the first game then that would have been okay, as everything you needed to know and understand the world presented was contained within.

Shepard leaves at the end, sure of the ability to find a way to stop the Reapers when they return. The thing is with the end of the first game we have no idea when that may be. It could have happened long after Shepard died of old age.

Yet still that point is an inconsequential one. Mass Effect 1 is a self-contained story.

Mass Effect 2 broke this to a small extent with Mass Effect: Galaxy. There was this history between two of the main characters that you couldn't learn about in the main game. What saved Mass Effect 2 however was that it too was a fairly self-contained story, indeed a bit too self-contained to be honest.

The third game had the unenviable task of trying to wrap up everything that people wanted to know. They wanted to know more about the Protheans and the history of the Reapers (Something I could have lived without to be honest). Those two things tended to dominate discussions that I saw.

So it really isn't hard to see why people are upset about the two biggest pieces of backstory they wanted to see reduced to DLC.

Except Mass Effect 1 was not contained a self-contained storyline. In fact, it's less self-contained than any story DLC that has been released for any ME game in that the DLC's actually resolved their central conflict. Mass Effect 1's was intentionally left unresolved as it was announced to be the first game in a trilogy, which meant that you need to buy the next two games in order to see the resolution to that conflict.

People are complaining about paying $10 for non-essential backround lore, but are just fine with paying $180 msrp to get the full story. They are forced to pay far more money for something that is far more important than what they are actually compaining about. It's a blatant double-standard, one that doesn't make sense the more you look at it.

[Kel Riever]

OP:  Hey, I didn't buy any DLC once the Extended Cut came out, because I knew what was in store....

Got to read the signs. It wasn't going to be worth it and pretty much the writing was on the wall with this one. Yes, your point is taken, but its up to you to not buy the DLC if you think it is ridiculous. Be a smart consumer.

Modifié par Kel Riever, 11 juin 2013 - 05:39 .

[AlanC9]

chemiclord wrote...

Well... I suppose there is a third option:

3) Gamers start lowering their expectations, accept not always getting the coolest graphics and sounds with the latest advancements in voice over and cinematic quality... *snerk* *laughing*

Okay... I'm sorry... I can't finish that sentence with a straight face.

It's funny that the gaming marketplace hasn't segmented the way movies have. Right now we've got nothing between Steven Spielberg and Noah Baumbach, as far as i can tell.

[AlanC9]

Darth Krytie wrote...

I think a part of the problem here is assuming this content would have made it into the final game if DLC didn't exist. Which, to be honest, it wouldn't. Most of the anti-DLC crowd fail to realise this important fact. Not having DLC doesn't necessarily mean your game would be longer. It probably wouldn't. Just check out most pre-DLC games and see.

No DLC might even make the main games shorter. I've worked in a branch of print publishing where we sold the main product at only a little over cost, and made all our profits on the more profitable updates. If we hadn't been able to sell the updates, we would have needed higher prices or less content in the main product.

I don't know if this fits the current DLC model or not.

[CuraeL]

I just thought.. You guys remember that Siren Blood Curse game? Or something like that..
It was split into chapters.. You could purchase chapter 1, 2, 3 and 4 seperate or buy like.. The full pack.. Sorta like.. You had a base DLC in the form of chapter 1 and then you'd purchase the rest as you moved along.. Would this be better? Simply NO base game such as Mass Effect 3, and then kinda.. Piece it together over time?.. I mean.. It certainly is another way of doing DLC. Both "Citadel DLC" stuff could be implemented same time as the "main plot" wraps up.. Only thing is that your paying a suitable maybe.. 1600 BioWare points per chapter. omigod.

[Cainne Chapel]

Official DJ Harbinger wrote...

It's EA, what do you expect?

you say that like ONLY EA deals in DLC or something

[Jadebaby]

Do yourself a favour and buy a Bethesda game. At least there dlc is practically another game.